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No. I'm not.
Plenty of other things matter. In particular, what - if anything - an election victory tells us about the 'will of the people'.
The "will of the people" elected Obama to a second term
Get over it
Blow me. I don't really care much about the election. Obama winning was a best-case-scenario among the (very shitty) likely outcomes.
The question is whether the result of the election amounts to an endorsement of all, or any, of Obama's policies. There's good reason to believe it doesn't. You can sit there and spout snarky babble, or you can join the conversation.
Yeah, but that's only those leftists who govern and live in the blue cities and counties, within that red state.
like these folks, no doubt.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y54rcz_L5Q4"]Mississippi Rednecks that vote republican - YouTube[/ame]
No, more like these folks.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI"]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio"]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]
Sure it's an endorsement of Obamas policies. Obama ran on his policies and HE WON
Romney tried to scare voters away because of Obamas policies and HE LOST
Sure it's an endorsement of Obamas policies. Obama ran on his policies and HE WON
Romney tried to scare voters away because of Obamas policies and HE LOST
If you want to have real discussion (which I'm seriously doubting) then address the issue I raised earlier. Many, many voters will tell you that they aren't voting for a candidate or his policies, but against someone else. They are picking the least shitty option offered. Can you really call that an 'endorsement'?
"Not as shitty as Romney" ? Hell of a mandate.
The people who do not vote, do not exist...PERIOD
By not voting they forfeit their right to affect the political process. HOW they would have voted is irrelevant
That they did not vote does not take away from the fact that they're American citizens and it damn well is not irrelevant. And, it's certainly relevant in any claim some pathetic leftist might have that they think they're somehow some majority or, that they somehow outnumber someone. And, they affected the political process by not voting...dope. Additionally, that you think that if they don't vote, they don't exist? Oh I sure wish your chump-in-chief would have said that on the campaign trail. He probably did but, the mainstream leftist media ignored it. So does that mean, in your opinion, 113.8 million people in this country don't exist, they're irrelevant and, they deserve nothing? LOL! Come on, sound this message far and wide...and, LOUD, too. I dare you. You've certainly got an enormous set to be giving sermons about Romney's 47% comment after this.
They are American citizens who have forfeited their right to participate in the selection of the political representatives who make decisions that affect their lives. In terms of the political process....They do not exist
To ponder how they would have voted or what impact they would have had in the past election is irrelevant.
Those of us who take the trouble of actually voting get to make the decisions. Those who choose to sit on the sidelines do not exist in terms of the will of the people. Their will says let other people decide
Sure it's an endorsement of Obamas policies. Obama ran on his policies and HE WON
Romney tried to scare voters away because of Obamas policies and HE LOST
If you want to have real discussion (which I'm seriously doubting) then address the issue I raised earlier. Many, many voters will tell you that they aren't voting for a candidate or his policies, but against someone else. They are picking the least shitty option offered. Can you really call that an 'endorsement'?
"Not as shitty as Romney" ? Hell of a mandate.
Obama has a mandate to be President......that's all that matters
Trying to draw any other conclusion is a childish tantrum
Actually he was far from correct. To call the working poor, retirees and veterans a bunch of leeches looking for a handout and having no personal responsibility was insulting and inaccurate
The election of your chump-in-chief proves you wrong.
Evidently not
Our leader has once again demonstrated that he has the faith of the American people behind him
Evidently not
Our leader has once again demonstrated that he has the faith of the American people behind him
Again you overstate the popularity of Obama. There are about 240 million eligible voters in the U.S. Obama got 60.5 million of their votes. That's about 25%. Hardly a show of faith of the American people.
Those who do not vote forfeit their right to have their candidate opinions considered.
Obama won by 3 million votes and is the popular choice to be our President
Not a big fan of history I see. FYI Hitler was made Dictator of Germany in 1933 soon after the his appointment as Chancellor.
The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The Reichstag Burns
The History Place - Rise of Hitler: Hitler Becomes Dictator of Germany
Nothing slow and steady about it.
Actually, I probably know more about a lot of history, especially World War II history, than you'll ever know. Whether or not he made himself dictator insofar as government institutions is irrelevant in winning over the everyday normal German citizen. And, these were the people I was referring to, who needed indoctrinated first. And, it wasn't until 1939 that he thought the German people were indoctrinated enough to begin his quest in invading other nations. Unlike today, 1930s Germany didn't enjoy the convenience of instant communication and the likelihood that a great number of Germans didn't even realize they were under a dictatorship is large. It took some time for him to secure the full support of the people either through their love of him or, more importantly, fear of him. Insofar as him establishing his dictatorship in government institutions, with government officials, with the elite, etc., then yes, it didn't take him that long. And, these aren't the phenomenon and people I was speaking of. I was speaking of the normal everyday German citizen, whether it be a worker in a factory or a farmer. He didn't just walk in, in 1933, with the full support of the normal everyday German citizen. He had to indoctrinate them into believing things like the Jews, and the Versailles Treaty, etc., were to blame for all their problems for example. And, he had to institute programs which produced the Volkswagen and build up the military, etc., to sully his popularity with the German people to the best extent he could.
Of course it's relevent, once he was in control he began consolidating his power.
Then before the end of 1933 he withdrew from the League and began ignoring the Treaty of Versailles. Then on 1st March, 1936, three German battalions marched into the Rhineland. France and Brittan did nothing, well they whined quite a bit but.....
Your attempt to compare the two is simply not historically accurate and quite disingenuous.
Evidently not
Our leader has once again demonstrated that he has the faith of the American people behind him
Again you overstate the popularity of Obama. There are about 240 million eligible voters in the U.S. Obama got 60.5 million of their votes. That's about 25%. Hardly a show of faith of the American people.
If we had counted the votes of those who did not vote last Tuesday, Obama would have won 180 million votes
Proving once again that Obama had a mandate
If we had counted the votes of those who did not vote last Tuesday, Obama would have won 180 million votes
Proving once again that Obama had a mandate
your numbers don't add up. There are 240 million, give or take, eligible voters. 118 million of them voted for one candidate or the other. That's a difference of 122 million. You're only 58 million off. The second problem is your assuming for whatever nonsensical reason that those 122 million would go to Obama.
Of course they add up
Obama received 60 million votes
120 million people didn't vote, we can assume they all would have voted for Obama which would give him 180 million votes
Of course they add up
Obama received 60 million votes
120 million people didn't vote, we can assume they all would have voted for Obama which would give him 180 million votes
So now the people who didnt' vote do count for something? I thought you said they didn't. And exactly what evidence do you have for the assumption that all the eligible voters that didn't vote would have voted for Obama?
My assuming that Obama would have taken the vote from every apathetic voter is as valid as your assumption that only 25% of eligible Americans supported Obama. To make that assumtion, you presume that none of the 180 million supported him
My assumption is closer to the truth
You are making assumptions to cover for the fact that your preferred candidate lost.
No. I'm not.
Plenty of other things matter. In particular, what - if anything - an election victory tells us about the 'will of the people'.Simply winning an election makes you President of the United States
That is all that matters
The "will of the people" elected Obama to a second term
Get over it
No, more like these folks.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI"]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio"]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]
Oh look...
Republicans posting "Black people sure are dumb" videos
And they wonder why they keep losing the minority vote
Such has been the case with all US elections at least since 68. Fact is the President is popular with everyone except angry white males.
That's anything but a fact.
I stand corrected. Everyone except for alot of angry white men and to a lessor extent a few angry white women.
The election of your chump-in-chief proves you wrong.
Evidently not
Our leader has once again demonstrated that he has the faith of the American people behind him
No, he has the faith of approximately 62.8 million American people behind him while, approximately 173.1 million people 18 and over didn't vote for him.
You are making assumptions to cover for the fact that your preferred candidate lost.
No. I'm not.
Simply winning an election makes you President of the United States
That is all that matters
Plenty of other things matter. In particular, what - if anything - an election victory tells us about the 'will of the people'.
Yeah, we should count the votes of the people that didn't vote as part of the people that voted and sort of decide how they would have voted if they were Republicans and had voted. Makes sense to me. Sure beats standing in line waiting to vote, so anyway, with this new system did Romney win?
No. I'm not.
Plenty of other things matter. In particular, what - if anything - an election victory tells us about the 'will of the people'.
The "will of the people" elected Obama to a second term
Get over it
No, the will of the 62,828,346 people out of 122,107,860 people who voted elected Obama to a second term. While, the will of about 97,188,729 of the remaining eligible voters just simply didn't give a shit.
