There’s clearly a misunderstanding among conservatives…

Trump lost, imo, because he was an unpopular candidate who governed over a damaged economy and massive job losses. People tend to vote for the state of affairs at the time of the vote.

And the state of affairs on November 3rd left Trump vulnerable.

Trump rode mostly on Obama's economy. The economic growth in Obama's last 18 months, was bookended by Trumps first 18 months. Trumps economy was as Newton described his accomplishments, because he stood on the shoulders of giants.

When Trump completely bungled the coronavirus, he spelled out his own fate.
Almost every nation on earth bungled the corona virus and you seriously believe that no one would bring in the virus from our Southern Border?

Out of 220 countries that we have stats for, our response is 209th worst in terms of deaths per 1 million.

In total cases, we're the worst

In total deaths, the worst.

Our response has been an unmitigated disaster that is currently killing a 911s worth of Americans every 24 to 36 hours. We lost 3000 people just yesterday.
We have the highest density and freedom of movement.
They have lots of dead people and lots of angry citizens.
Nonsense. We're 145th in population density. You have no idea what you're talking about.

We're in the lowest 2% of world responses in terms of deaths per 1 million. Our response is the single worst in terms of total cases. We're the single worst in total deaths. We're the worst in deaths per day.

Our response has been a complete disaster. And the fish rots from the head.

And yes, its entirely possible to do better than we have. Just ask the 208 countries out of 220 that have managed it.
OK...your usual "I hate Trumpy Bear" bullshit.
Just the facts. I can back up eveything I've said.

145th in population density

Massive death tolls, currently at more than 300k

The US response being 209th worst in terms of deaths per 1 million
The US response being the single worst in total deaths
The US response being the single worst in total cases
The US response being the single worst in daily deaths


Remember....while you may just mindlessly ape whatever Trump or some youtube conspiracy theorist tells you to think, I do actual research. Its why I new more about the election litigation than you did. Why I was able to call case after case, even giving the exact reason the Supreme Court would reject the Texas petition.

And why I know more than you do now on our covid response.

Post a youtube video for us. Its pretty much what you're good for.
The U.S. is the third largest in area and total population, moron.

The U.S. is propabably first in terms of immigrants, and that's how foreign diseases enter the country. Who do you suppose supports unlimited immigration?

"Population density" is a meaningless statistic.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

I voted for Biden as you stated to rid the Oval Office of Trump and his nonsense but do not lie yourself if I would want Harris as President and in 2024 I will be voting against her if she is nominated by the party which is most likely seeing she is the VP.

Same here, unless the Republican Candidate is Rump. And then She gets my vote.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

I voted for Biden as you stated to rid the Oval Office of Trump and his nonsense but do not lie yourself if I would want Harris as President and in 2024 I will be voting against her if she is nominated by the party which is most likely seeing she is the VP.

Same here, unless the Republican Candidate is Rump. And then She gets my vote.

I have to agree on that one because I can not do another term of Trump no matter had it been now or in 2024...
 
Trump lost, imo, because he was an unpopular candidate who governed over a damaged economy and massive job losses. People tend to vote for the state of affairs at the time of the vote.

And the state of affairs on November 3rd left Trump vulnerable.

Trump rode mostly on Obama's economy. The economic growth in Obama's last 18 months, was bookended by Trumps first 18 months. Trumps economy was as Newton described his accomplishments, because he stood on the shoulders of giants.

When Trump completely bungled the coronavirus, he spelled out his own fate.
Almost every nation on earth bungled the corona virus and you seriously believe that no one would bring in the virus from our Southern Border?

Out of 220 countries that we have stats for, our response is 209th worst in terms of deaths per 1 million.

In total cases, we're the worst

In total deaths, the worst.

Our response has been an unmitigated disaster that is currently killing a 911s worth of Americans every 24 to 36 hours. We lost 3000 people just yesterday.
We have the highest density and freedom of movement.
They have lots of dead people and lots of angry citizens.
yeah. highest density alright. lol.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.


1. Fuck you.

2. It is you people that are a blind cult. So fuck you.
 
Oh God not liberal logic again. So you voted for Biden but you don't support Biden.
They would have voted for Joseph Stalin just to vote out Donald Trump.
I would have voted for the devil to rid the country of Trump if they weren't so similar.
you may have.....the so called lessor evil is still evil....
OK. I would have voted for Cthulhu to rid us of Trump.
and people like you and lakota is why we have had the half-assed politicians we have had the past 20 years....not caring about who is in charge as long as i like him better than the current guy,even if this one is a useless piece of shit himself......
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.
 
Well this is great. I'm getting a lecture about conservatism from a big-government statist liberal fuck who doesn't even understand the first thing about conservatism.

I understand conservatism. I used to be one. I voted for Reagan.

Then I grew up.

Some people reject adulthood, and they remain conservatives. Conservatism is a sullen teenager slamming the door and sreaming "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!". The grownups just roll their eyes.

If I escaped conservativism, others can as well. I'm here as a message of hope to conservatives. You are not trapped forever in the nightmare cult of conservatism. There is a way out, and there are people who will help.

Let me help you here. You were an adult and it wasn't any fun so decided to become a co-dependent lefty who needs to Gov to think for him/her.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?

Do you mean for the Spoiled Rich Kid who was raised by one of the founding fathers of the John Birch Society? Do you mean you didn't vote for your JBS President or you didn't vote at all? Or you voted for someone else that was more open about being a JBSer? Like 1958 and 1964, you JBSers are going to be have to be escorted out of the Republican Party once again. And whether you admit it or not, (Most JBSers like about being one) it's going to have to happen or the Republican Party is going by the way of the Tea Party.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?

Do you mean for the Spoiled Rich Kid who was raised by one of the founding fathers of the John Birch Society? Do you mean you didn't vote for your JBS President or you didn't vote at all? Or you voted for someone else that was more open about being a JBSer? Like 1958 and 1964, you JBSers are going to be have to be escorted out of the Republican Party once again. And whether you admit it or not, (Most JBSers like about being one) it's going to have to happen or the Republican Party is going by the way of the Tea Party.

Take your Meds son, you're spouting nonsense. I'm not a Reublican......you're having a tough morning.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?

Do you mean for the Spoiled Rich Kid who was raised by one of the founding fathers of the John Birch Society? Do you mean you didn't vote for your JBS President or you didn't vote at all? Or you voted for someone else that was more open about being a JBSer? Like 1958 and 1964, you JBSers are going to be have to be escorted out of the Republican Party once again. And whether you admit it or not, (Most JBSers like about being one) it's going to have to happen or the Republican Party is going by the way of the Tea Party.

Take your Meds son, you're spouting nonsense. I'm not a Reublican......you're having a tough morning.

I know you aren't. I just verified that you weren't, that's all.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?

Do you mean for the Spoiled Rich Kid who was raised by one of the founding fathers of the John Birch Society? Do you mean you didn't vote for your JBS President or you didn't vote at all? Or you voted for someone else that was more open about being a JBSer? Like 1958 and 1964, you JBSers are going to be have to be escorted out of the Republican Party once again. And whether you admit it or not, (Most JBSers like about being one) it's going to have to happen or the Republican Party is going by the way of the Tea Party.

Take your Meds son, you're spouting nonsense. I'm not a Reublican......you're having a tough morning.

I know you aren't. I just verified that you weren't, that's all.

I think terrible things are coming and they're going to come from Rump.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.

I am? Then why didn't I vote for him son?

Do you mean for the Spoiled Rich Kid who was raised by one of the founding fathers of the John Birch Society? Do you mean you didn't vote for your JBS President or you didn't vote at all? Or you voted for someone else that was more open about being a JBSer? Like 1958 and 1964, you JBSers are going to be have to be escorted out of the Republican Party once again. And whether you admit it or not, (Most JBSers like about being one) it's going to have to happen or the Republican Party is going by the way of the Tea Party.

Take your Meds son, you're spouting nonsense. I'm not a Reublican......you're having a tough morning.

I know you aren't. I just verified that you weren't, that's all.

I think terrible things are coming and they're going to come from Rump.

He has just over 30 days to do some really crazy things. Then there will be a time when, for some reason I can't fathom, that most of the Republicans in office will be shaking in their boots over offending him in any way after he leaves office. I worked hard to send him down the road, put up with a lot of abuse in the process from my own party and it doesn't look like it will end on Jan 20th like it should. Maybe it's time to start cleaning house and supporting the Lincoln Project even more. I think they might have the answer.
 
Trump lost, imo, because he was an unpopular candidate who governed over a damaged economy and massive job losses. People tend to vote for the state of affairs at the time of the vote.

And the state of affairs on November 3rd left Trump vulnerable.

Trump rode mostly on Obama's economy. The economic growth in Obama's last 18 months, was bookended by Trumps first 18 months. Trumps economy was as Newton described his accomplishments, because he stood on the shoulders of giants.

When Trump completely bungled the coronavirus, he spelled out his own fate.
Almost every nation on earth bungled the corona virus and you seriously believe that no one would bring in the virus from our Southern Border?

Out of 220 countries that we have stats for, our response is 209th worst in terms of deaths per 1 million.

In total cases, we're the worst

In total deaths, the worst.

Our response has been an unmitigated disaster that is currently killing a 911s worth of Americans every 24 to 36 hours. We lost 3000 people just yesterday.
Including China?

Based on the numbers we have from China.

So what....are you arguing that our response was only the 208th worst?
I'm saying nobody knows what the real numbers are. The books are cooked.

Funny. I grew up in the 60s and 70s, when the Left wouldn't trust the government as far as they could throw it.

Now? Now you all insist the government would never lie to us, and has our best interests at heart, and really really cares about all of us!, and we should let it run our lives.

What happened?

How does China's numbers in anyway mitigate the absolutely disaster here? Are 300,000 Americans any less dead? Did we not lose 3000 people just yesterday?

Our response has been abysmal. And your reply is an argument from ignorance, that you can't know someone else hasn't been worse?

As if that somehow makes our humiliating failure, damaged economy and hundreds of thousands dead better.
China lied to the WHO, and the WHO passed those lied on to the world. Democrats repeated the lies, insisting folks should go see Broadway shows and Chinese New Year parades. Then Democrats shut down their states, closing businesses and keeping people from work. Trump said states should open up. The wrecked economy is due solely to Democrat actions.

If everybody had been honest immediately, the damage could have been mitigated.

You consistently blame the wrong people. In doing so, you serve liars. Your moral high ground is made of trillions of lost dollars and a huge stack of bodies.

All because you have an irrational hatred for one man. Pathetic.
 
Well this is great. I'm getting a lecture about conservatism from a big-government statist liberal fuck who doesn't even understand the first thing about conservatism.

I understand conservatism. I used to be one. I voted for Reagan.

Then I grew up.

Some people reject adulthood, and they remain conservatives. Conservatism is a sullen teenager slamming the door and sreaming "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!". The grownups just roll their eyes.

If I escaped conservativism, others can as well. I'm here as a message of hope to conservatives. You are not trapped forever in the nightmare cult of conservatism. There is a way out, and there are people who will help.
Every day is Opposite Day in mamooth world.
 
Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

That’s not the case.

Indeed, many – if not most – who voted for Biden are indifferent to the president-elect.

Those who voted for Biden were voting to rid the country of Trump; Biden was merely a means to that end.

Should events occur prior to 2024 that would compel Biden to resign from office – such as the impeachment process – Harris would become president (interestingly, a significant number of Biden voters might actually prefer Harris…).

And Trump would still be gone, which is paramount.

Biden voters would be perfectly content with that scenario.

Conservatives are under the misconception that those who voted for Biden have the same slavish, blind, and cult-like devotion to Biden as conservatives have for Trump.

Fact.....you are slavishly bound to your ideology and THAT allows ambivalence to whoever is the figure head of your "party".

There you go again mistaking real Conservatives with the Party of the Rumpers. Stop that.

Poor kid, I AM a Conservative and my statement stands.

You are a Party of the Rumper and closer to a John Birch Society.
It's funny how you leftists believe you can dictate other people's views.
 

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