This is why we need to tax the wealthy

[pknopp]

I dont object to prosecuting businesses that KNOWINGLY hire illegals as long as the workers and their whole family are immediately interned and deported

But that isn't happening

Always with the fine print. If they do not have jobs, they have to leave.

 

[pknopp]

Sure, we were all fooled by your ploy to INCREASE TAXES.

No ploy. You support putting off our debt to others. I am not.

 

[Mac-7]

Always with the fine print. If they do not have jobs, they have to leave.

No they dont

They can buy more phony documents and look for another job

Besides, without a job to support themselves why not deport them?

 

[Nostra]

I can't explain who else can pay for it other than those who have run it up. I'm missing the problem there.

So you are so stupid you think today’s politicians, and past politicians, are going to pay off $34 TRILLION in debt.

Delusional dumbass doesn’t come close to describing your dipshittery, Simp.

 

[Nostra]

No ploy. You support putting off our debt to others. I am not.

Let’s see your plan. Give us specifics and numbers, Vermin.

 

[BluesLegend]

No ploy. You support putting off our debt to others. I am not.

Sure, that's what you are proposing.

 

[Markle]

We put Trump in charge and ran up 7.8 trillion in debt....

I know, none of it was his fault. None of it was McCarthys fault. None of it will be Johnsons fault.

Sheesh.

Your childish demand that COVID-19 be ignored is just foolish.

How does that foolishness help our country?

I don't care how much or why you have such a hate for President Trump. Did he treat you like an adult, which hurt your feelings?

No one can legitimately deny that he did a great job running our country. How is the disaster being driven by President Biden preferable to your hurt feelings?

 

[pknopp]

No they dont

They can buy more phony documents and look for another job

Besides, without a job to support themselves why not deport them?

A proper law will not allow that to happen but you know this.

 

[BluesLegend]

Let’s see your plan. Give us specifics and numbers, Vermin.

Democrats have been blathering on about 'tax the rich' for 50+ years, guess how much debt they have paid off with all their tax increases...$0.00

 

[pknopp]

So you are so stupid you think today’s politicians, and past politicians, are going to pay off $34 TRILLION in debt.

Delusional dumbass doesn’t come close to describing your dipshittery, Simp.

Sadly I don't think they will but it's still what I support. It's not an excuse to ignore it. The repercussions are going to be bad.

 

[BluesLegend]

Always with the fine print. If they do not have jobs, they have to leave.

Cut off the hundreds of billions of dollars of welfare for illegals and they will flee on their own back the fuck where they came from.

 

[pknopp]

Your childish demand that COVID-19 be ignored is just foolish.

How does that foolishness help our country?

I don't care how much or why you have such a hate for President Trump. Did he treat you like an adult, which hurt your feelings?

No one can legitimately deny that he did a great job running our country. How is the disaster being driven by President Biden preferable to your hurt feelings?

I don't support what Biden is doing. That doesn't mean I think someone that already failed should get another shot.

 

[pknopp]

Cut off the hundreds of billions of dollars of welfare for illegals and they will flee on their own back the fuck where they came from.

They survive fine off the wages paid to them by their employers.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Another union fallacy

The typical union worker is incapable of creating a company bigger than a lemonade stand

You just want to put in your 8 hours and go home without giving the company a thought till you drag yourself into work the next day

Where you will not do ANYTHING not absolutely required in your union contract

You need the capitalist far more than the capitalist needs you

Another union fallacy. The typical union worker is incapable of creating a company bigger than a lemonade stand.

Keep talking and proving my case with your flippant condescending attitude towards the working class, which is the only group of people who actually produces anything useful in our society. If what you're saying is true, it's not because they're stupid, it's rather a lack of education on that subject or training. Is that what you're trying to say? Workers are stupid and capitalists aren't? How more deluded and infantile could you be?

The working class is the one who produces and delivers all of the goods hence there are several ways society could meet its need for goods and services by employing workers without capitalists. It could do it through its government or it could have the government incentivize workers to start worker-owned and run cooperatives, by providing start-up capital, in the form of loans, grants, and subsidies. Why not, the capitalists have no problem getting assistance from Uncle Sam, ask Boeing:

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COMPANY	LOCATION	SUBSIDY SOURCE	YEAR	SUBSIDY VALUE.	LOAN/BAILOUT VALUE	TYPE OF SUBSIDY
Boeing	Washington	state	2013	$8,700,000,000		MEGADEAL
Boeing	Washington	state	2003	$3,244,000,000		MEGADEAL
Boeing	South Carolina	multiple	2009	$900,000,000		MEGADEAL
Boeing	Missouri	state	2014	$229,000,000		MEGADEAL
Boeing	Missouri	local	2023	$185,669,997		MEGADEAL
Boeing	Alabama	multiple	1997	$150,000,000		MEGADEAL
Aviall Services	Texas	local	2001	$145,000,000		megadeal
Boeing	South Carolina	state	2013	$120,000,000		MEGADEAL
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$106,059,430		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$105,677,735		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$99,495,754		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$95,990,815		tax credit/rebate
Boeing Co.	Oklahoma	state	2015	$91,755,076		MEGADEAL
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$82,454,832		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$67,192,769		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$67,112,839		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$66,859,548		tax credit/rebate
Boeing	Illinois	multiple	2001	$56,000,000		MEGADEAL
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2021	$53,779,100		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2020	$53,449,704		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$51,400,000		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2021	$48,938,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$45,671,936		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$34,329,766		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$34,143,819		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$30,063,419		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2016	$22,805,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2014	$19,586,512		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2020	$17,900,864		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2007	$16,667,406		federal grant
Boeing South Carolina	South Carolina	state		$13,305,080		training reimbursement
Boeing (787)--ICRIP	Texas	local	2011	$10,000,000		property tax abatement
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2020	$9,653,083		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2021	$9,286,890		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2010	$8,561,396		federal grant
MCDONNELL DOUGLAS CORPORATION	Missouri	state	2000	$8,367,275		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2020	$7,741,016		tax credit/rebate
BOEING COMPANY, THE (BOEING DEFENSE, SPACE & SECURITY)	Missouri	state	2019	$6,900,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$6,883,590		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$6,800,000		tax credit/rebate
BOEING COMPANY, THE (BOEING DEFENSE, SPACE & SECURITY)	Missouri	state	2016	$6,790,000		training reimbursement
BOEING COMPANY, THE	Missouri	state	2016	$6,790,000		training reimbursement
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$6,696,505		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Florida	state	2011	$6,640,000		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$6,320,234		tax credit/rebate
Boeing	Oklahoma	local		$6,000,000		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$5,992,891		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2011	$5,988,614		federal grant
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2007	$5,630,296		federal grant
BOEING COMPANY, THE (BOEING DEFENSE, SPACE & SECURITY)	Missouri	state	2014	$4,850,000		training reimbursement
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2018	$4,770,498		tax credit/rebate
Boeing	Oklahoma	local	2012	$4,500,000		grant
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2010	$4,492,877		federal grant
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2014	$4,335,248		federal grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$4,300,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$4,200,000		tax credit/rebate
Boeing Company	Florida	state	1998	$4,000,000		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2016	$4,000,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2017	$3,600,000		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	Illinois	state	2010	$3,250,000		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2015	$3,000,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2016	$3,000,000		tax credit/rebate
KLX Inc.	Florida	state	2017	$2,900,000		tax credit/rebate
Boeing Company - Phase II	Oregon	state	2016	$2,581,833		property tax abatement
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2008	$2,438,298		federal grant
Boeing - Phase II	Oregon	state	2016	$2,433,367		property tax abatement
Boeing - Phase II	Oregon	state	2017	$2,156,889		property tax abatement
The Boeing Company Portland Business Unit	Oregon	local	2020	$2,008,617		property tax abatement
The Boeing Company	Oklahoma	state	2015	$2,000,000		grant
The Boeing Company	Pennsylvania	state	2012	$1,987,913		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,981,363		grant
The Boeing Company Portland Business Unit	Oregon	local	2021	$1,900,615		property tax abatement
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,850,114		grant
Boeing	Oklahoma	local	2012	$1,838,250		grant
The Boeing Company Portland Business Unit	Oregon	local	2022	$1,815,665		property tax abatement
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2016	$1,796,052		federal grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Washington	state	2019	$1,755,181		tax credit/rebate
KLX Inc.	Florida	state	2016	$1,700,000		grant
The Boeing Company	Oklahoma	state	2023	$1,677,680		grant
Boeing - Phase III	Oregon	state	2017	$1,675,572		property tax abatement
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2015	$1,637,786		grant
Boeing Co d/b/a Boeing Company Rotorcraft Div	Pennsylvania	state		$1,575,000		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,573,521		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,552,641		grant
The Boeing Company	United States	federal	2008	$1,546,136		federal grant
The Boeing Company	Illinois	state	2008	$1,500,000		grant
The Boeing Company	Illinois	state	2009	$1,500,000		grant
Boeing Company	Oklahoma	local	2012	$1,496,400		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2021	$1,490,363		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2020	$1,453,016		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2021	$1,453,002		grant
The Boeing Company	Oklahoma	state	2023	$1,451,603		grant
Boeing Company, The	Illinois	state	2004	$1,442,354		cost reimbursement
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2020	$1,435,909		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,409,231		grant
The Boeing Company	Washington	state	2020	$1,406,768		tax credit/rebate
The Boeing Company	New Mexico	State	2020	$1,379,641		grant
Boeing	Utah	state	2013	$1,376,254		tax credit/rebate
THE BOEING COMPANY & CONS	Oklahoma	state	2015	$1,339,524		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2022	$1,317,033		grant
THE BOEING COMPANY	Oklahoma	state	2019	$1,313,141		grant

And thousands of other Fortune 500 companies just like it.

If the capitalists can get help from the government, so can the working class to start their cooperatives. It's that simple. You capitalists, are unnecessary middlemen.

You just want to put in your 8 hours and go home without giving the company a thought till you drag yourself into work the next day...

Go ahead, keep spewing your irrational venom against workers. What else do you expect from workers, other than they work their shifts and then go home to their families and return the next day? You're not making any sense. Are you suffering from some type of mental disturbance? Do you capitalists expect us to work two or three shifts or work for free? We're not supposed to have a family life and social life..etc?

While your workers are toiling you're at the country club playing golf or sitting by the pool with a martini. So who's in a position to talk crap here? Not you that's for sure. You're at the spa getting your nails manicured while your workers are risking life and limb in the factory with the heavy equipment. You have a lot of nerve talking shit.

Where you will not do ANYTHING not absolutely required in your union contract...

Not necessarily, but your attitude is quite loony. I do my job, and I do it well. I get paid a decent wage, and I'm at work on time and complete every task that is handed to me. What else do you want from me? Do you want free stuff? Are you begging me for a handout or something? Do you give me handouts, or do you make me work for everything I have? Every benefit I have came through grinding, heated negotiations between my labor union and employer. When did you ever give me anything out of the love and goodness of your heart? I have to work for it.

You need the capitalist far more than the capitalist needs you.

Really? How do you figure? It doesn't matter if you have the capital to purchase the facility and machinery, all of the equipment, you need workers. That facility is empty, the machines are just there collecting dust, without workers (the human element). Human beings animate and operate the machinery of production. Workers are the core and backbone of production, not capitalists. We have the skills and willingness to toil, and lift heavy shit, placing our health and even our lives at risk:

The working class can have a government that employs it or helps it start its own productive enterprises, a.k.a. "Worker-Owned Cooperatives". We don't need you, you need us in every way imaginable.

 

[Mac-7]

A proper law will not allow that to happen but you know this.

You dodged the question a 2nd time

If they cant work why not deport them?

 

[pknopp]

You dodged the question a 2nd time

If they cant work why not deport them?

Deport them.

 

[Markle]

Spend, spend, spend.

Pelosi responds to Trump: Let’s push for $2K checks ‘this week’

 

[Nostra]

Sadly I don't think they will but it's still what I support. It's not an excuse to ignore it. The repercussions are going to be bad.

Ok Tinkerbell, you continue to live in fantasyland and leave the adults alone. You have nothing coherent to offer.

 

[pknopp]

Rinse repeat.

 

[Markle]

A proper law will not allow that to happen but you know this.

Why was President Trump able to keep out illegal aliens, but President Biden could not, but he has the same tools as Trump?