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Hillary's own actions reinforced the perception that she is a sleaze and, as you put it, on her death bed. Fainting in public on September 11th and unbridled mendacity is not the way to put those perceptions to rest.Yes. It is a stretch to think that millions of people could believe things that aren't true and use that belief to make a voting decision.
Things like Trump promising to jail Clinton. Things like Trump building a wall and deporting all undocumented immigrants. Things like Hillary Clinton being crooked or on her death bed.
Who'd believe these things? Why....clearly intelligent people who have America's best interests at heart, that's who.
Straight up......Clinton didn't earn her negative approval rating. She wasn't able to overcome it.....but she shouldn't have had to. Gullible people.....and lots of people who didn't invest enough time.....perceive her to be dishonest and corrupt. And...as Meathead has so clearly stated in this thread....that perception is all that matters.
Sophistication, Mac, precludes sourcing dingbat sites, especially one of many scrambling to make excuses for failure, in support of an argument.Ah, okay. I'm just not as sophisticated as a Trumpster, stipulated.The "sophistication" I referred to was about you and in the conditional.You may want to tell that to the Trumpsters who will be disappointed by this development.I'm going to break something to you here Mac. I hope you're sitting down for this one.It just plays into what I've believed all along: There is no reason to believe a thing that a partisan says.If you are sophisticated enough to understand that Hilary was not going to be locked up, then I am surprised you call the meme a wasted effort when it was in fact very successful in reinforcing and reminding of the larger meme of "Crooked Hillary".
My concern is that we have real problems that need to be addressed, and blatant, rampant, open, constant dishonesty isn't usually the way to fix problems.
And by the way, I also don't believe for a moment that there aren't plenty of Trumpsters in those rallies who were taking this "Lock Her Up" thing seriously.
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There is no Santa Clause, not even an Easter Bunny!
Sorry.
And please, let's not call them "sophisticated" again.
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I do know enough not to believe partisans, though, and that includes Trumpsters' spin to cover their disappointment. Here's what is actually happening:
âHillary for Prisonâ Crew Turns on Donald Trump
Trump told the Times, regarding his supporters, âI donât think theyâll be disappointed.â
He thought wrong.
Many of Trumpâs more high-profile fans, surrogates, and allies are angry about this about-face and insist âCrooked Hillaryââas Trump dubbed her throughout the campaignâbe locked up.
âIâm hearing from people who are livid at Hillary, theyâre still mad,â Rush Limbaugh, the famous conservative talk show host, said on Tuesday afternoon. âThere are a lot of people who really thought that when Trump said âYou oughta be in jail,â that they agreed with that and thought that she should be!â
âWhoa! I thought we elected [Donald Trump] president,â Ann Coulter, conservative pundit and one of Trumpâs most loyal media boosters, tweeted in response to the news. âDid we make him the FBI, & DOJ? His job is to pick those guys, not do their jobs.
âAs happy as I am that our long national nightmareâs over, NO president [should] be blocking investigators from doing their jobs. #EqualUnderLaw,â she continued.
Coulter wasnât alone in her frustration. Calls to imprison Clinton, wasnât a passing idea in the Trump campaignâit was a central tenet. After all, this reversal comes after a long campaign during which Trump and his allies and his surrogates had made âLOCK HER UP!â chants and âHillary for Prisonâ swag staples of Trump rallies.
âBROKEN PROMISE,â declared Breitbartâa far-right website previously run by Stephen Bannon, Trumpâs incoming White House chief strategist.
Former tea-party congressman Joe Walsh, who tweeted in July that âHillary Clinton should be in prison,â didnât seem too pleased, either.
âWhen he said âLock her upâ what he really meant was âHelp her heal,ââ Walsh tweeted sarcastically on Tuesday.
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Okay, we can pretend that Trumpsters weren't taking this seriously, you win. I'm on USMB right now, I can pretend anything.Sophistication, Mac, precludes sourcing dingbat sites, especially one of many scrambling to make excuses for failure, in support of an argument.Ah, okay. I'm just not as sophisticated as a Trumpster, stipulated.The "sophistication" I referred to was about you and in the conditional.You may want to tell that to the Trumpsters who will be disappointed by this development.I'm going to break something to you here Mac. I hope you're sitting down for this one.It just plays into what I've believed all along: There is no reason to believe a thing that a partisan says.
My concern is that we have real problems that need to be addressed, and blatant, rampant, open, constant dishonesty isn't usually the way to fix problems.
And by the way, I also don't believe for a moment that there aren't plenty of Trumpsters in those rallies who were taking this "Lock Her Up" thing seriously.
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There is no Santa Clause, not even an Easter Bunny!
Sorry.
And please, let's not call them "sophisticated" again.
.
I do know enough not to believe partisans, though, and that includes Trumpsters' spin to cover their disappointment. Here's what is actually happening:
âHillary for Prisonâ Crew Turns on Donald Trump
Trump told the Times, regarding his supporters, âI donât think theyâll be disappointed.â
He thought wrong.
Many of Trumpâs more high-profile fans, surrogates, and allies are angry about this about-face and insist âCrooked Hillaryââas Trump dubbed her throughout the campaignâbe locked up.
âIâm hearing from people who are livid at Hillary, theyâre still mad,â Rush Limbaugh, the famous conservative talk show host, said on Tuesday afternoon. âThere are a lot of people who really thought that when Trump said âYou oughta be in jail,â that they agreed with that and thought that she should be!â
âWhoa! I thought we elected [Donald Trump] president,â Ann Coulter, conservative pundit and one of Trumpâs most loyal media boosters, tweeted in response to the news. âDid we make him the FBI, & DOJ? His job is to pick those guys, not do their jobs.
âAs happy as I am that our long national nightmareâs over, NO president [should] be blocking investigators from doing their jobs. #EqualUnderLaw,â she continued.
Coulter wasnât alone in her frustration. Calls to imprison Clinton, wasnât a passing idea in the Trump campaignâit was a central tenet. After all, this reversal comes after a long campaign during which Trump and his allies and his surrogates had made âLOCK HER UP!â chants and âHillary for Prisonâ swag staples of Trump rallies.
âBROKEN PROMISE,â declared Breitbartâa far-right website previously run by Stephen Bannon, Trumpâs incoming White House chief strategist.
Former tea-party congressman Joe Walsh, who tweeted in July that âHillary Clinton should be in prison,â didnât seem too pleased, either.
âWhen he said âLock her upâ what he really meant was âHelp her heal,ââ Walsh tweeted sarcastically on Tuesday.
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Funny thing is...NO ONE BELIEVES A WORD HILLARY SAYS...BUT YOU STILL VOTED FOR HER.Yes. It is a stretch to think that millions of people could believe things that aren't true and use that belief to make a voting decision.
Things like Trump promising to jail Clinton. Things like Trump building a wall and deporting all undocumented immigrants. Things like Hillary Clinton being crooked or on her death bed.
Who'd believe these things? Why....clearly intelligent people who have America's best interests at heart, that's who.
Straight up......Clinton didn't earn her negative approval rating. She wasn't able to overcome it.....but she shouldn't have had to. Gullible people.....and lots of people who didn't invest enough time.....perceive her to be dishonest and corrupt. And...as Meathead has so clearly stated in this thread....that perception is all that matters.
Pretzel "logic".Those "slimey hypocrites" ensured that those men did not die in vain and saw to it that a price was paid for the scumbags who lied about the reasons for their murder because of a political agenda. There was no person more directly responsible than the Beast and perhaps Susan Rice.Those 4 dead americans were used by slimy hypocrites pretending to care for them.
It was a job well done.
Hillary lied every time she opened her mouth, but millions of Americans still voted for her. Are those Americans stupid in your mind and deserving of scorn?President-elect Donald Trump on Friday acknowledged his threat to imprison Hillary Clinton for using a private email server during her time as secretary of state was simply an appeal to win voters.
As Trump spoke at a rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, as part of his post-election âThank You Tour,â some supporters began chanting âlock her upâ â a common refrain during the Republican convention and Trumpâs campaign events.
âNo, itâs okay,â Trump said as the crowd jeered a reference to Clinton. âForget it. That plays great before the election. Now, we donât care, right?â
More: Trump Admits His Threat To Lock Up Hillary Was Just For Show
Everything about Trump is "just for show"...
Funny thing is...NO ONE BELIEVES A WORD HILLARY SAYS...BUT YOU STILL VOTED FOR HER.Yes. It is a stretch to think that millions of people could believe things that aren't true and use that belief to make a voting decision.
Things like Trump promising to jail Clinton. Things like Trump building a wall and deporting all undocumented immigrants. Things like Hillary Clinton being crooked or on her death bed.
Who'd believe these things? Why....clearly intelligent people who have America's best interests at heart, that's who.
Straight up......Clinton didn't earn her negative approval rating. She wasn't able to overcome it.....but she shouldn't have had to. Gullible people.....and lots of people who didn't invest enough time.....perceive her to be dishonest and corrupt. And...as Meathead has so clearly stated in this thread....that perception is all that matters.
Well, let's be clear now, one of the strengths and sources of frustration by some in regards to The Donald is that you just don't know. He says things publicly that is often meant to confuse and keep people off balance. I don't think he is going after Clinton, but much of this is out of his hands, unless he is going to issue a pardon. This is up to the FBI, AG and others to decide if there has been a crime.
What will really harm his support and disenchant his supporters, would be a realisation that the core of his campaign promises were also for show. If that's the case, you can be sure the Democrats will reverse power in the WH within two years, complete the overhaul in four. He has to keep his promises. When you repeat your policies over and over like a marketing campaign, it sticks in peoples minds and they expect action.
Agreed.Well, let's be clear now, one of the strengths and sources of frustration by some in regards to The Donald is that you just don't know. He says things publicly that is often meant to confuse and keep people off balance. I don't think he is going after Clinton, but much of this is out of his hands, unless he is going to issue a pardon. This is up to the FBI, AG and others to decide if there has been a crime.
What will really harm his support and disenchant his supporters, would be a realisation that the core of his campaign promises were also for show. If that's the case, you can be sure the Democrats will reverse power in the WH within two years, complete the overhaul in four. He has to keep his promises. When you repeat your policies over and over like a marketing campaign, it sticks in peoples minds and they expect action.
Hillary lied and leftists love it.Trump lied. His zombies ate it up.
Congress could pass a law to prevented ex-congressmen from registering as lobbyist. You could not keep them for working for foreign countries.President-elect Donald Trump on Friday acknowledged his threat to imprison Hillary Clinton for using a private email server during her time as secretary of state was simply an appeal to win voters.
As Trump spoke at a rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, as part of his post-election âThank You Tour,â some supporters began chanting âlock her upâ â a common refrain during the Republican convention and Trumpâs campaign events.
âNo, itâs okay,â Trump said as the crowd jeered a reference to Clinton. âForget it. That plays great before the election. Now, we donât care, right?â
More: Trump Admits His Threat To Lock Up Hillary Was Just For Show
Everything about Trump is "just for show"...
Sorry he let you down.
No not everything appears to be a show. He was also talking about KILLING the special interests that have been plaguing Washington for years. Such as ex politicians going to work for foreign companies or domestic companies
that they deal with while in office. IT Could just be, that Trump realizes there are some more important things to take care of. Going after Hillary would put the skids on helping Americans where they need the help. When money
starts coming back into the US, you'll see infrastructure being upgraded in these cities like Detroit and Chicago.
Hillary never would do any of this, as it turns out, she's just a 'Good O'l Boy' after all. If your really upset about her
escaping incarceration though, you should just invite her out to the Rez, and bury her neck deep in one of those red ant piles for an hour or two. Maybe time to handle things the real American way.
How about ex-presidents and SoS giving speeches,Congress could pass a law to prevented ex-congressmen from registering as lobbyist. You could not keep them for working for foreign countries.President-elect Donald Trump on Friday acknowledged his threat to imprison Hillary Clinton for using a private email server during her time as secretary of state was simply an appeal to win voters.
As Trump spoke at a rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, as part of his post-election âThank You Tour,â some supporters began chanting âlock her upâ â a common refrain during the Republican convention and Trumpâs campaign events.
âNo, itâs okay,â Trump said as the crowd jeered a reference to Clinton. âForget it. That plays great before the election. Now, we donât care, right?â
More: Trump Admits His Threat To Lock Up Hillary Was Just For Show
Everything about Trump is "just for show"...
Sorry he let you down.
No not everything appears to be a show. He was also talking about KILLING the special interests that have been plaguing Washington for years. Such as ex politicians going to work for foreign companies or domestic companies
that they deal with while in office. IT Could just be, that Trump realizes there are some more important things to take care of. Going after Hillary would put the skids on helping Americans where they need the help. When money
starts coming back into the US, you'll see infrastructure being upgraded in these cities like Detroit and Chicago.
Hillary never would do any of this, as it turns out, she's just a 'Good O'l Boy' after all. If your really upset about her
escaping incarceration though, you should just invite her out to the Rez, and bury her neck deep in one of those red ant piles for an hour or two. Maybe time to handle things the real American way.
She is not going to be charged with anything as long she doesn't run for office. If she had announced that she would not run in 2016, the House investigation would have dried up for for lack of interest and there would have been no FBI investigation. The House Government and Oversight Committee has now shifted it's focusing on Trump and his vast financial entanglements.Well, we'll see if Sessions agrees with Comey, won't we?
Of course he will. All the previous investigations were nothing more than an effort to discredit her for the election. The election is over. All that circus has already folded it's tent.
One of two things have to happen before a legal case is final, a jury verdict, or the statute of limitations expire. Neither have occurred in her case. Also the investigations into the foundation and pay to play are still ongoing. She's a long way from out of the woods at this point. Oh I almost forgot, the congressional referral for perjury is still pending.
You are probably right, but that does not make it right.She is not going to be charged with anything as long she doesn't run for office. If she had announced that she would not run in 2016, the House investigation would have dried up for for lack of interest and there would have been no FBI investigation. The House Government and Oversight Committee has now shifted it's focusing on Trump and his vast financial entanglements.Well, we'll see if Sessions agrees with Comey, won't we?
Of course he will. All the previous investigations were nothing more than an effort to discredit her for the election. The election is over. All that circus has already folded it's tent.
One of two things have to happen before a legal case is final, a jury verdict, or the statute of limitations expire. Neither have occurred in her case. Also the investigations into the foundation and pay to play are still ongoing. She's a long way from out of the woods at this point. Oh I almost forgot, the congressional referral for perjury is still pending.
Clearly she is above the law and this is an indication that justice in American is not blind.
Locker-room banter...Trump Admits His Threat To Lock Up Hillary Was Just For Show
She is not going to be charged with anything as long she doesn't run for office. If she had announced that she would not run in 2016, the House investigation would have dried up for for lack of interest and there would have been no FBI investigation. The House Government and Oversight Committee has now shifted it's focusing on Trump and his vast financial entanglements.Well, we'll see if Sessions agrees with Comey, won't we?
Of course he will. All the previous investigations were nothing more than an effort to discredit her for the election. The election is over. All that circus has already folded it's tent.
One of two things have to happen before a legal case is final, a jury verdict, or the statute of limitations expire. Neither have occurred in her case. Also the investigations into the foundation and pay to play are still ongoing. She's a long way from out of the woods at this point. Oh I almost forgot, the congressional referral for perjury is still pending.
Well, we'll see if Sessions agrees with Comey, won't we?
Of course he will. All the previous investigations were nothing more than an effort to discredit her for the election. The election is over. All that circus has already folded it's tent.
One of two things have to happen before a legal case is final, a jury verdict, or the statute of limitations expire. Neither have occurred in her case. Also the investigations into the foundation and pay to play are still ongoing. She's a long way from out of the woods at this point. Oh I almost forgot, the congressional referral for perjury is still pending.
