Trump gets caught reading Russian propaganda at rally yesterday, Oct. 10.

They are not even helping Trump.

Our own state run media is doing all they can to quash the messages.

This who 11 year old Trump bullshit came out mere hours after WikiLeaks released email from Hillary telling Goldman Sachs that she would let them set the rules for Wall Street.

I don't like Trump, but Hillary belongs in prison.
And yet after having been investigated repeatedly by a Republican congress their fishing expeditions have not turned up anything they can use.

When the FBI is openly corrupt as ours is...
Is congress in the bag for Hillary too? Wow, who would have thought it. In the meantime what do you actually think about the topic Mr. off-topic poster.

Grow up

FBI Releases Documents in Hillary Clinton E-Mail Investigation
Go on over to topic concerning that and wait on me, I'll be there eventually.
 
This was the triad from the beginning and likely why Trump chose to run. He, Assange, and the Russians had whatever useless dirt they had and Russia told Trump they'd continue on with the hacking throughout the campaign to help him win. You can see this in how Trump publicly cheered on the Russians to hack US Government computers. What American citizen, let alone someone running for office, would ever even think such a thing? Nobody would. Unless it was to foreshadow things Trump knew were coming and, in his mind, would make him look 'clairvoyant' or as a know-it-all. There have been nonstop warnings from the FBI and Homeland Security to various states about hackers infiltrating voting machines in those states, with the perpetrator likely Russia. Assange has given up any pretense of being unbiased as he is intentionally trying to subvert the outcome of a United States Presidential election. Along with the Russians.

The question is why? What would be the benefit to Putin if Trump were elected, other than money. Putin operates on money, he's a world-class thief and thug. He's already murdered people out in the open via poison. Trump appears to be his protege. And what would be the benefit to Assange? Asylum either in Russia or the US, as well as a large payoff.

We've heard it echoed from the past "if you are going to tell the public a lie tell them the big lie, so big it frightens them more to believe it's true because of the consequences to them personally than to dismiss it and hope for the best". If you don't believe the lie you can pretend all is well. Cognitive dissonance is what we call it today.

Again, I will be happy if wrong. Because if this is what in fact has taken place we may well find ourselves at war with Russia in the future. No nation has ever tried to so directly interfere with US elections. All these nations like to poke at the US with a long stick, thinking we're too docile to take aggressive action, and we are to a point. Guaranteed none of them wants us to actually come at them. None of them. It's like poking a bengal tiger sleeping along the trail. Once you poke him in the eye then you get what you get.
Thank you, they are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence that Putin is trying to help Trump win the election. Granted it's still circumstantial but if this story is any indication the Russian effort is sloppy and will soon expose itself. I think Putin meant to reveal it about five minutes after Trump was sworn in.

And this goes to a point I made in another thread. The real threat isn't Trump by himself, it would be the Congress if the Republicans retained control of both houses. If this were revealed as noted or anything similar, that Trump knew about this and participated in it ahead of time, he would and should be immediately impeached and tried as a traitor. You want to know what high crimes are, this is it. But, if the Republicans viewed this moment in time if Trump were elected and they controlled both houses, to force their agenda through and pass laws that lock out the Democrats from gaining control of Congress ever again, they would I believe ignore whatever Trump has done and carry on with effectively demolishing the Constitution and the norms of our government that have stood since the founding. Again, no one can see the future and we all would hope this would not, and really, could not come to pass. But if you know history we are at a very precarious moment either way. If the Russians and Assange were not doing what they are doing there would be no conversation. But they are. And there IS a reason they are doing this.
I understand this completely but as Putin is still only fucking with democrats they love him. They are just not thinking that Putin does things to benefit Putin and no one else and that he has probably completely hacked the republicans and is holding those things for blackmail purposes. The very thought is chilling, Trump as president and a republican congress all terribly vulnerable to being blackmailed into letting Russia run wild in the world.
 
Your answer is in your own link....

The documents that WikiLeaks has unloaded recently have been emails out of the account of John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s election campaign. Almost as soon as the pilfered documents emerged, Sputnik was all over them and rapidly found (or probably already knew about before the WikiLeaks dump) a purportedly incriminating email from Blumenthal.
Do you realize the significance of a state run Russian website probably already having the Emails before wikileaks got them? I'll spell it out, Russia hacked these emails.

If the emails are valid, so what?
 
The one thing we can be thankful for is Trump is the scumbag he is and has torpedoed his own campaign over and over. But, the election isn't over yet.
 
The one thing we can be thankful for is Trump is the scumbag he is and has torpedoed his own campaign over and over. But, the election isn't over yet.
No it isn't, I too feel a certain sense of impending peril knowing how Putin does things. To the republicans he's just a role model but I would feel better if they acted just a little bit worried about this cyber attack on our election.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.


If you think that Hitlery and the DNC's corruption bodes well for anyone had it not been exposed? You couldn't be more wrong not even if you showed up at Michael Moore's house on Halloween dressed as Mayor McCheese.. This country needs an enema and it needs to flush out the international bankers, communists and their neocon counterparts. People better wake the fuck up before it is too late because I guarantee you that bad shit of Biblical proportions is heading towards us.
 
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Do you realize the significance of a state run Russian website probably already having the Emails before wikileaks got them? I'll spell it out, Russia hacked these emails.

Underscoring the seriousness of Hillary REFUSING to use secured mail. She basically shared every email she ever wrote with Russia, China, ISIS, Iran, etc.

She is NOT qualified to be president. She belongs in prison.

There is no such thing as "secured email". Never has been. That's why it's not used for truly sensitive classified material.

These emails were hacked from the DNC, not Hillary's private server, you dolt.
 
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Do you realize the significance of a state run Russian website probably already having the Emails before wikileaks got them? I'll spell it out, Russia hacked these emails.

Underscoring the seriousness of Hillary REFUSING to use secured mail. She basically shared every email she ever wrote with Russia, China, ISIS, Iran, etc.

She is NOT qualified to be president. She belongs in prison.

There is no such thing as "secured email". Never has been. That's why it's not used for truly sensitive classified material.

These emails were hacked from the DNC, not Hillary's private server, you dolt.

Hitlery's private server was hacked.......no? (snicker)
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.


If you think that Hitlery and the DNC's corruption bodes well for anyone had it not been exposed? You couldn't be more wrong not even if you showed up at Michael Moore's house on Halloween dressed as Mayor McCheese.. This country needs an enema and it needs to flush out the international bankers, communists and their neocon counterparts. People better wake the fuck up before it is too late because I guarantee you that bad shit of Biblical proportions is heading towards us.
Make no mistake, the progressive wing has not forgotten or forgiven the DLC for their shit. Hillary will get only one term if she forgets who will put her in the oval office. That is for next year, right now Trump must be stopped so an uneasy truce has been called. In the end the democratic party will be better off for having had this inside exposure. The Republicans however seem headed for some pretty ugly internal strife. Somehow I do not see the Trump true believers making up with the rest. That's the really bad shit you see coming, it will be you guys ripping each others genitals off in retribution for real and imagined betrayals of "conservative principals" whatever that is these days.
 
I do not post a lot of topics but this one is too important to not be here.

Monday morning saw another Wikileaks dump. This one was a batch from Clinton Campaign manager John Podesta. He had received an Email from Sydney Blumenthal discussing the Benghazi mess. In this Email Blumenthal had quoted an article from newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald on how politicized the benghazi hearings were.

Here's where it gets weird. Within a couple of hours of the email dump on wikileaks a Russian state run propaganda website had published an article that "mistakenly" attributed the quote from the newsweek article to Blumenthal where it seems he was calling the Benghazi hearings entirely justified. At this point they were the only website in the world who had published a story on this particular Email. A few hours later at a rally in Wilkes Barre, Trump read from a piece of paper the same manufactured story from the Russian site.

So here's the time line. Wikileaks dumps a shitload of hacked Podesta emails. In an improbably short period of time a Russian website has published a story about how they have found the campaign ending smoking gun on Hillary and Benghazi. The story appears nowhere else. In just a few hours after that a printout of the article is being read by Trump.

All this brings up two very important questions.

Did the state owned Russian propaganda site already have the leaked emails?

Who put that piece of paper in Trump's diminutive hands?

The Newsweek article is long but excellent.

Dear Mr. Trump, I am not Sidney Blumenthal

Excellent. I saw that being discussed on the news this evening. Trump has no shame.
 
I do not post a lot of topics but this one is too important to not be here.

Monday morning saw another Wikileaks dump. This one was a batch from Clinton Campaign manager John Podesta. He had received an Email from Sydney Blumenthal discussing the Benghazi mess. In this Email Blumenthal had quoted an article from newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald on how politicized the benghazi hearings were.

Here's where it gets weird. Within a couple of hours of the email dump on wikileaks a Russian state run propaganda website had published an article that "mistakenly" attributed the quote from the newsweek article to Blumenthal where it seems he was calling the Benghazi hearings entirely justified. At this point they were the only website in the world who had published a story on this particular Email. A few hours later at a rally in Wilkes Barre, Trump read from a piece of paper the same manufactured story from the Russian site.

So here's the time line. Wikileaks dumps a shitload of hacked Podesta emails. In an improbably short period of time a Russian website has published a story about how they have found the campaign ending smoking gun on Hillary and Benghazi. The story appears nowhere else. In just a few hours after that a printout of the article is being read by Trump.

All this brings up two very important questions.

Did the state owned Russian propaganda site already have the leaked emails?

Who put that piece of paper in Trump's diminutive hands?

The Newsweek article is long but excellent.

Dear Mr. Trump, I am not Sidney Blumenthal

Excellent. I saw that being discussed on the news this evening. Trump has no shame.
It's a little more complicated than talking about the inappropriate grabbing of women, it speaks directly to Trump's horribly dangerous political attitude towards Americans who are not kissing his ass.
 
I think it's cute how all the commie pigs who applaud Hillary's treasonous endeavors are pretending to get her up over trump and Russia lolol.
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.


If you think that Hitlery and the DNC's corruption bodes well for anyone had it not been exposed? You couldn't be more wrong not even if you showed up at Michael Moore's house on Halloween dressed as Mayor McCheese.. This country needs an enema and it needs to flush out the international bankers, communists and their neocon counterparts. People better wake the fuck up before it is too late because I guarantee you that bad shit of Biblical proportions is heading towards us.
Make no mistake, the progressive wing has not forgotten or forgiven the DLC for their shit. Hillary will get only one term if she forgets who will put her in the oval office. That is for next year, right now Trump must be stopped so an uneasy truce has been called. In the end the democratic party will be better off for having had this inside exposure. The Republicans however seem headed for some pretty ugly internal strife. Somehow I do not see the Trump true believers making up with the rest. That's the really bad shit you see coming, it will be you guys ripping each others genitals off in retribution for real and imagined betrayals of "conservative principals" whatever that is these days.

No, the "progressive" wing is communist and just an offshoot of the U.N's globalization goal of a "one world government" agenda that Hitlery is totally on board with as were the Bush crime family. Repub/Dem....just different sides of the same coin with the banking oligarchs that actually run this country along with the other 99 percent of the countries that have a central bank are. This is nothing but theater....all we are doing is selecting the next CEO of a corporate entity that is "da gubermint". How and the fuck can the Supreme Court be "incorporated"?? Every alphabet agency is incorporated....how can that be and do you even understand the significance of that? The noose is getting tighter and you don't even understand it as the air is being cut off to the brain......fucking sad.
 
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.

Julian Assange has a personal hate on for Hillary Clinton when she went after him to have him extradited when she was Secretary of State. He will say or do anything to prevent her election.
 
You are ready to put Hillary in front of a firing squad on less evidence then we have that Putin is attacking our election.

I have seen no evidence at all that Putin or Russia is behind the hacking....but I do know that when Wikileaks released e-mails about Bush the lesser and Tony Blair? The leftard clown posse cheered and rightly so. The fact remains is that Hitlery and her fellow DNC clowns are one corrupt entity... and of that you cannot deny. I have no doubt that the RNC (the different side of the same coin) are equally corrupt and disgusting. Enjoy the theater while you can because until people wake up this this fraudulent system, we will continue to circle the proverbial drain.
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.


If you think that Hitlery and the DNC's corruption bodes well for anyone had it not been exposed? You couldn't be more wrong not even if you showed up at Michael Moore's house on Halloween dressed as Mayor McCheese.. This country needs an enema and it needs to flush out the international bankers, communists and their neocon counterparts. People better wake the fuck up before it is too late because I guarantee you that bad shit of Biblical proportions is heading towards us.
Make no mistake, the progressive wing has not forgotten or forgiven the DLC for their shit. Hillary will get only one term if she forgets who will put her in the oval office. That is for next year, right now Trump must be stopped so an uneasy truce has been called. In the end the democratic party will be better off for having had this inside exposure. The Republicans however seem headed for some pretty ugly internal strife. Somehow I do not see the Trump true believers making up with the rest. That's the really bad shit you see coming, it will be you guys ripping each others genitals off in retribution for real and imagined betrayals of "conservative principals" whatever that is these days.

No, the "progressive" wing is communist and just an offshoot of the U.N's globalization goal of a "one world government" agenda that Hitlery is totally on board with as were the Bush crime family. Repub/Dem....just different sides of the same coin with the banking oligarchs that actually run this country along with the other 99 percent of the countries that have a central bank are. This is nothing but theater....all we are doing is selecting the next CEO of a corporate entity that is "da gubermint". How and the fuck can the Supreme Court be "incorporated"?? Every alphabet agency is incorporated....how can that be and do you even understand the significance of that? The noose is getting tighter and you don't even understand it as the air is being cut off to the brain......fucking sad.
I realize what you are trying to say (I think) but conservatives are not believable in your new found love of economic justice in America. After several decades of kissing rich man ass and fighting for trickle down economic policy you think you can just flip on that? You people hijacked what the progressives have been saying for years about the plutocrats so you will excuse my dubious reaction while Trump wants to put another massive tax cut for the wealthy on the credit card.
 
Whatever comrade, if Trump had one little tiny teeny itsy-bitsy bit of honor he would say he wants to win on his ideas and not some nefarious plot on his behalf. He did not even have to call out his role model Putin by name, just tell them he wants to win clean or not at all. As it is he has eagerly went after his opponent using stolen information from someone in Russia (verified) as if it was just fucking awesome. Wikileaks used to be awesome as they allowed whistle blowers a place to safely put stuff so the public can see it but something changed this year. Assange never allowed his website to be used like this, it may even be that he is no longer in control of it.

Julian Assange has a personal hate on for Hillary Clinton when she went after him to have him extradited when she was Secretary of State. He will say or do anything to prevent her election.
I don't buy it for that alone, there has to have been some sort of incredibly sweet deal made for him to let his treasured website be turned into a political tool by Putin, Trump or both. Maybe he's just tired of it all and he wants to retire in style to some Russian estate with hot and cold running bimbos and no questions about their age or consent.
 
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