Trump has not built any new fence - sorry, but I told you

[Hutch Starskey]

Utter fantasy. It's not happening in case you haven't noticed.

Because of you and the people you support.

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Because congress doesn't want it. Including republicans.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Utter fantasy. It's not happening in case you haven't noticed.

Because of you and the people you support.

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Because congress doesn't want it. Including republicans.

Do you want it?

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[OKTexas]

Huh?
As a percentage of the population, immigrants are less than in 1920.

Why are you beginning to become insulting? Up to that point you were doing so well.

If you think about it, you might come to a different conclusion.
Many do not even want a question on the census asking whether you are a citizen or not.

What that should tell you is that the number presented is most likely not close, meaning it is more than likely MUCH higher than the figure they know of.

We really don't have any reliable current information. Maybe that's why Trump is making an attempt to gather it?

Immigrants make up roughly the same percentage of the population as they did 100 yrs ago. Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Link?


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It's in the tread dope. Try reading it before opening your yap.

Yep, it was posted after your comment, and not by you. You commies never back up the things you say, it's always on the other guy.

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[NotYourBody]

Those here illegally process the food we eat. They prepare the meals we eat. They watch our children. Do we not want to make sure they are healthy?

You can argue that you do not want them to do that but they are and no one is addressing that.

Specifically what percentage of those here illegally do the things you listed? Secondly, with respect to that percentage of illegals who actually do the things you listed, why should their healthcare and government subsidies take priority over that of U.S. citizens who do all of the things you listed? In other words, why should illegals specifically get free healthcare and free income subsidies when many of the things being promised specifically to illegals by the current Democratic presidential candidates are not even available to U.S. citizens, and in fact take benefits away from U.S. citizens? By way of example, recent proposed legislation providing subsidies to illegals, while cutting VA benefits to injured service members.

This is a patent example of pandering (a "lure" as Sealybobo put it) and it's disappointing that people aren't able to recognize that. These types of "cornucopia" promises are made every 4 years and you'd think people would wise up and see the motivating factors for what they are, but yet it's always the same shit, different year.

Because every time universal healthcare is suggested for U.S. citizens, the MAGAt's start screaming socialism.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Utter fantasy. It's not happening in case you haven't noticed.

Because of you and the people you support.

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Because congress doesn't want it. Including republicans.

Do you want it?

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No.

Tell us why you really want it. No cliche bullshit narratives.

Tell us what you think. That it's really all just about not wanting whites to become a minority in the US.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Huh?
As a percentage of the population, immigrants are less than in 1920.

Why are you beginning to become insulting? Up to that point you were doing so well.

If you think about it, you might come to a different conclusion.
Many do not even want a question on the census asking whether you are a citizen or not.

What that should tell you is that the number presented is most likely not close, meaning it is more than likely MUCH higher than the figure they know of.

We really don't have any reliable current information. Maybe that's why Trump is making an attempt to gather it?

Immigrants make up roughly the same percentage of the population as they did 100 yrs ago. Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Link?


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It's in the tread dope. Try reading it before opening your yap.

Yep, it was posted after your comment, and not by you. You commies never back up the things you say, it's always on the other guy.

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No, dope. I responded to another poster who posted the data.

Idiot.

 

[NotYourBody]

By the context of my previous posts. Do you read the thread or are you a no context, hit and run poster?

All I am getting from you is that Trump and congress suck and didn't really want a stupid wall.

I am asking YOU what YOU think we should do.

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LOL...
This is the first time you asked that, dope.

I want Trump to do what was done and worked in the past. Keep families together and process assylum claims honestly and efficiently. Run detention centers per established protocols and treat people with dignity. At least maintain the standards of human rights we hold others to.

The populations that are illegally crossing now are not the same as in the past. In the past it was single working aged males, now it's men, women and children along with unaccompanied minors. Things that worked in the past won't work now. 90% of supposed asylum seekers never show up for immigration hearings, but they have disappeared in the population. Now we have to go find them to deport them, which is made harder because they have cut off and discarded ankle monitors they were released with. Most will try to drop a kid before they are caught, thinking a citizen kid will get them a pass to stay, we can't allow that to happen.

BTW it is estimated we only catch 50-60% of illegal border crossers, so no one knows how many are actually here. Anyone tells you they do, they're lying.

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You were okay with the single working aged males, but it's the women, children and unaccompanied minors that have you so scared?

That's some straight cringe right there. Yikes. Might not want to admit that in public.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Utter fantasy. It's not happening in case you haven't noticed.

Because of you and the people you support.

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Because congress doesn't want it. Including republicans.

Do you want it?

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No.

Tell us why you really want it. No cliche bullshit narratives.

Tell us what you think. That it's really all just about not wanting whites to become a minority in the US.

Because we are a sovereign nation and have the right to control our borders, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING COUNTRY ON THE MOTHERUFUCKING PLANET?

I guess that answers the question as to why you DON'T want it.

You want to illegally shift the population using a bunch of unskilled, uneducated masses so you can "overthrow" whitey, making the U.S. a third-world country in the process? Is that it? Cloward-Piven?

Be honest.

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[Leo123]

From the OP's link...

"A senior administration official told the Washington Examiner that Border Patrol and the Army Corps of Engineers moved faster on replacement projects than the new ones because the approval process for environmental and zoning permits was far less extensive than areas of the border with no barrier."

So, along with Democrats withholding $$$ for the wall, Trump faces stupid environmental regulations. BTW you have to read beyond the headlines to find the real truth. He HAS been building new wall as a REPLACEMENT for old inadequate wall.

 

[NotYourBody]

From the OP's link...

"A senior administration official told the Washington Examiner that Border Patrol and the Army Corps of Engineers moved faster on replacement projects than the new ones because the approval process for environmental and zoning permits was far less extensive than areas of the border with no barrier."

So, along with Democrats withholding $$$ for the wall, Trump faces stupid environmental regulations. BTW you have to read beyond the headlines to find the real truth. He HAS been building new wall as a REPLACEMENT for old inadequate wall.

So he's been building new replacement wall. Just no new sections being walled off for the first time. Not quite what he promised. And if the dotard could have forced Mexico to pay, like he said he could, you wouldn't even have to worry about the money.

 

[miketx]

You been down there to see for yourself?

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

 

[NotYourBody]

You been down there to see for yourself?

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

We're good, thanks. Rolling right along. We are clearly made of sterner stuff than you delicate, precious, immigrant-fearing Texas flowers.

 

[miketx]

You been down there to see for yourself?

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

We're good, thanks. Rolling right along. We are clearly made of sterner stuff than you delicate, precious, immigrant-fearing Texas flowers.

Right liar, that's why most people can't afford houses while the government regulates you all to the bike trails.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

And that changes nothing about my comment. Replacing old and ineffective with new more effective, is placing new fences. My new car analogy is a perfect example. You're playing a semantics game. Hint, semantics is the last bastion of a loser.
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I admit I didn't realize the old border was so easily breached and that it was being replaced with the much better bollard structure that Osiris was kind enough to post images of.
It's satisfying when there is something to be learned here vs the hostility and garbage that flows so steadily.

 

[NotYourBody]

You been down there to see for yourself?

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

We're good, thanks. Rolling right along. We are clearly made of sterner stuff than you delicate, precious, immigrant-fearing Texas flowers.

Right liar, that's why most people can't afford houses while the government regulates you all to the bike trails.

In my city, we are building houses as fast as we can. We have a severe housing shortage. We have the 5th largest economy in the world, dotard.

 

[miketx]

You been down there to see for yourself?

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

We're good, thanks. Rolling right along. We are clearly made of sterner stuff than you delicate, precious, immigrant-fearing Texas flowers.

Right liar, that's why most people can't afford houses while the government regulates you all to the bike trails.

In my city, we are building houses as fast as we can. We have a severe housing shortage. We have the 5th largest economy in the world, dotard.

You are a liar.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

In my city, we are building houses as fast as we can. We have a severe housing shortage. We have the 5th largest economy in the world, dotard.

You can thank American exceptionalism (mostly from a generation now exiting), and not open borders for that economy thing.

If immigrants were bringing all that prosperity, you'd think they'd have it where they're fleeing maybe?

 

[NotYourBody]

I can tell you no new wall has been built on the California border. I've seen for myself. No new fence or wall. Only repairs.

Good. I say leave the border open and let california be destroyed. They deserve it.

We're good, thanks. Rolling right along. We are clearly made of sterner stuff than you delicate, precious, immigrant-fearing Texas flowers.

Right liar, that's why most people can't afford houses while the government regulates you all to the bike trails.

In my city, we are building houses as fast as we can. We have a severe housing shortage. We have the 5th largest economy in the world, dotard.

You are a liar.

Google it. San Diego housing shortage. Dumbass Dotard.

 

[beautress]

I figured as much out of you. Yeah, I been to the border here in Arizona...went down with the Minutemen on a few occasions. We glass areas that look promising for invaders and radio sightings to the BP. A few of us have interdicted jumpers and it's gotten physical a few times....not like Vietnam where we'd light em up or call for a bird to do it...but fun as hell none the less. The "new" wall has been discussed already....you're not ready for any good news so I'm done with you.

I have no idea what you mean by "I figured as much out of you" ?

I appreciate your sacrifices to go to the border personally.
But to be honest, your attitude and lack of tolerance for debate is much more like Antifa than a Conservative.

BHU sez "But to be honest, your attitude and lack of tolerance for debate is much more like Antifa than a Conservative."
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Huh? A poster at a message board is more like an in-your-face bully throwing a pound jar at real conservatives than a somewhat restrained conservative? I ain't buyin' that particular product that you are selling.

 

[OKTexas]

Why are you beginning to become insulting? Up to that point you were doing so well.

If you think about it, you might come to a different conclusion.
Many do not even want a question on the census asking whether you are a citizen or not.

What that should tell you is that the number presented is most likely not close, meaning it is more than likely MUCH higher than the figure they know of.

We really don't have any reliable current information. Maybe that's why Trump is making an attempt to gather it?

Immigrants make up roughly the same percentage of the population as they did 100 yrs ago. Perspective is a wonderful thing.

Link?


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It's in the tread dope. Try reading it before opening your yap.

Yep, it was posted after your comment, and not by you. You commies never back up the things you say, it's always on the other guy.

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No, dope. I responded to another poster who posted the data.

Idiot.

OOPS!

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