Trump hit with criminal charges in New York, a first for a US ex-president -New York Times

[Rumpole]

Two pertinent points. Payments to a porn star are not illegal--especially when HE didn't do it and second, there is an inconvenient little thing called the "statute of limitations." You got him this time.

The Stat of Limitations expired for federal, but not for NY state, where they have 'tolling' law, meaning when you leave the state, the clock stops and doesn't start until you come back, hence the indictment on state charges. However, on the face of it, it's a misdemeanor and I hope he finds a felony or two in the mix, otherwise, this charge will fall flat on it's face.

Correct, hush money is not illegal. However, given that he reimbursed Cohen for payments he made, at the direction of, for the benefit of 'individual-1' (as named in Cohen's indictment, for which he was convicted and served time) where the charge is a felony campaign violation, given that the evidence shows the payment was made for the benefit of Trump's election campaign. Now, at the state level, there is a crime here, but as to the specifics, we'll have to wait and see.

I don't think they would empanel a grand jury for a misdemeanor, so I am curious to find out what the actual charging document will look like.

 

[yidnar]

Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.

Trump Indicted in New York: Donald Trump Is Indicted in New York (Published 2023)

Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.

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Start the music

and Hillary pays for a fake Russian dossier to overturn an election and said dossier was used to spy on a sitting POTUS of the US in the hopes of removing him from office ...and nothing happens ... FACTS!

 

[Esdraelon]

I guess they set a date for Trump to turn himself in. Unless there's some kind of delaying thing he can do, which is his specialty.

It WILL be very interesting to see if they have the balls to perp-walk him in front of cameras. I REALLY, REALLY hope they will.

 

[BothWings]

Does it hurt your brain to be this delusional?

Your brain is comfortably numb. That's the real truth and the real problem with America today.

 

[Circe]

The rest of the Republican field is disturbed because now Trump is going to take all of the oxygen out of the room.

I think this is an interesting point and likely true.

 

[Esdraelon]

I don't think they would empanel a grand jury for a misdemeanor

Why not? I mean, they've proven for 6 years that there is NOTHING they won't try to get rid of him.

 

[yidnar]

Single most criminal president in United states history! Should drop the fuck out!

on the contrary ! this just guaranteed Trump is the nominee for the gop in 2024 ! Trump is laughing at you all . all as in leftists.

 

[bodecea]

Based on what? Biden hasn't been impeached or convicted of a crime. Not once.

Not has Hillary Clinton.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Trump issues official response to the indictment...

 

[Rumpole]

Former President Donald Trump has been indicted by a grand jury empaneled by the Manhattan District Attorney's office — the first time a former president has been criminally charged in the history of the United States.



The indictment is under seal, and the exact charges are unknown. However, they stem from a $130,000 illegal hush payment Trump is accused of facilitating through his former attorney and fixer, Michael Cohen, to adult film star Stormy Daniels, to cover up an affair the two of them had during the 2016 presidential election.

Cohen was sentenced to prison in that scheme over charges of bank fraud, tax evasion, and campaign finance violations, and since being released has given information to Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg in the case against his former boss.

The indictment of Trump comes after a long on-again, off-again investigation by New York prosecutors. Bragg originally declined to press charges against Trump as part of an investigation of his business practices, a move that generated controversy and led to criticism from former prosecutors in the office.

Ahead of the indictment, Trump called for his supporters to stage protests — which prompted House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to step in and urge against violence.

Trump is widely expected to continue his campaign for president in 2024, regardless of the charges against him.

This is not the only criminal investigation of the former president. In Georgia, Fulton County DA Fani Willis is investigating him as part of her probe into efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia — including the effort to seat fake Trump electors and the former president's phone call with Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger demanding he "find" extra votes to win the state for him.

Meanwhile, Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith is investigating Trump on two different fronts: his role in the incitement of the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, and his efforts to confiscate and improperly stash highly classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago country club in Palm Beach, Florida. Either of those could result in federal charges.

Please provide a link to the source of the overall quotation , thanks.

 

[BackAgain]

You forgot the 70 per cent of Americans who hate his guts.

You come up with strange ass make believe numbers, Forrest.

 

[multivita-man]

He's laying a trap.

It's possible that the trap just lays itself.

I've felt that we're one major crisis away from a Trump dictatorship. A lot of people on the left don't see it, but I see it clearly. A series of events beyond Biden's ability to respond to or control and widespread economic pain a lot Weimar Germany and well, there ya go. 1932-33 all over again.

Trump will probably be leaning on the ultra-right wing Evangelicals. This will be branded as a holy war, a spiritual war for America's soul.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...” - Thomas Jefferson

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

wrong ...Trump just won the nomination for 2024 .

Rightists responding to this thread is proof that conservatives will continue to blindly support Trump and defend the indefensible.

 

[miketx]

Single most criminal president in United states history! Should drop the fuck out!

You masturbating yet? Oh, I won't hold my breath but what crimes has he done?

 

[Esdraelon]

Trump takes a 30 point jump in the polls.

Nah, remember, 40% of the country has been convinced that he's Hitler's long lost son. BUT, his campaign fundraising will soar and he will go up in polling. Most Americans are still fair-minded and it makes them angry to see someone being treated with an obvious double-standard.

 

[miketx]

Rightists responding to this thread is proof that conservatives will continue to blindly support Trump and defend the indefensible.

Defending him from what, masturbator?

 

[Circe]

This will go down as one of the greatest days in American history!

I'm sure you think so. No doubt most of the Roman Senate thought it was a great day when they chased Tiberius Gracchus through the Forum and beat him to death with table legs and had an executioner drag the body through the streets with a meathook and throw it in the Tiber.

However, have to tell you, that event has not worn well with history.

 

[Rumpole]

I don't pay much attention to Democrat media. They make it up as they go along.

Yeah, that's rich given that Fox News won't report on the massive lies they propagate on TV, as the texts and emails prove coming up in discovery in the Dominion law suit against the network. No one is making that shit up.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

All pollies lie. Some lie more than others and some lie about things that matter and things that don't. Hey, if you're having a bad hair day, I might tell you a little white lie to make you feel better 'your hair looks great!' However, if you try and cause a coup and say - repeatedly - that an election was stolen, when clearly it wasn't, then that's a lie that needs addressing. Paying off a porn star is just the beginning for this small 'handed' moron.

My post wasn’t about your and his TDS, it was about only republicans get dragged through the media and charged with crimes and that’s why Obama and Joey don’t have any charges. I understand Trump is inside your head 24/7 causing you to miss my easily understood post.