Trump is apparently an incredibly clean businessman

[bripat9643]

The number of Trump bankruptcies that snowflakes claim ranges anywhere from 4 to twelve.

However, the fact is that Trump has had no bankruptcies since his Atlantic city casinos went bust. Yet, you claim that all his deals are designed to produce bankruptcy. There appears to be a flaw in your "logic."

Trump had six bankruptcies in Atlantic City, two of them coming after he had divested himself of mist of his equity while retaining management of the resorts and the Plaza hotel in New York.

Trump Resort in Puerto Rico, which he didn’t own but was developing and managing having convinced the owner that he could make them millions makes eight.

Trump sold the Toronto Trump Hotel to a Russian but was managing the property on his behalf when bankruptcy was declared.

Trump doesn’t own the Trump Tower in Chicago, having sold most of his shares when the project ran into financial difficulties during construction.

His Trump Tower in Nicaragua is in financial difficulty. The owner had the police throw the company out of his property, but they came right back claiming they had an enforceable contract. Cue the lawsuit.

You can google for links to these stories.

Gotcha, Trump's failed at everything he ever tried. I mean it's not like he's a billionaire now. Oh wait, he is ...

If Trump has deposited the money he inherited from his father into the stock market, he would have more money than he has now.

If not for his scams and his money laundering, he’s be broke.

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

 

[whitehall]

What public figure could withstand the scrutiny that Trump is undergoing? Does anybody think John McCain would come out squeaky clean in a no holds barred investigation? His collaboration with the enemy while a POW, his failed first marriage, his wife's drug addiction the Keating scandal would not be survivable under aggressive media spin and fake outrage. The last thing a large corporation like the Heinz empire wants to deal with is an IRS investigation because there will always be improprieties that could be spun into allegations of corruption. The point is that nobody can stand a confrontational investigation like the Mueller witch hunt but the difference is that the media likes John McCain and hates the President of the United States so the double standard thrives.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

It seems Trump was in to some dirty shit
His financial dealings with the Russians and money laundering is just the tip of the iceberg

Now, his key people are turning on him and there is no place to hide

Any day now, lol.

Yup....that’s about how it works

Mueller does not want to release his findings until everything is in place

So after he stops throwing innocent people in prison.

What innocent people has he thrown in jail ? Trump should make this a big issue in my opinion.

 

[jknowgood]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

It seems Trump was in to some dirty shit
His financial dealings with the Russians and money laundering is just the tip of the iceberg

Now, his key people are turning on him and there is no place to hide

Any day now, lol.

Yup....that’s about how it works

Mueller does not want to release his findings until everything is in place

So after he stops throwing innocent people in prison.

What innocent people has he thrown in jail ? Trump should make this a big issue in my opinion.

Peter Limone and for others.

 

[kaz]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

 

[Skylar]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Oh, directing someone else to commit a felony is also a crime. As is the fraudulent reimbursement scheme that Trump used.

Trump directed Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions before the election. And then lied about the illegal contributions repeatedly to try and cover it up.

And there's a paper trail and sworn testimony to prove it.

 

[Skylar]

What public figure could withstand the scrutiny that Trump is undergoing?

Anyone who didn't collude with the Russians and direct his personal lawyer to commit flagrant violations of campaign contribution laws?

But again, you're countering ACTUAL evidence and ACTUAL crimes, ACTUAL plea deals and ACTUAL convictions...

.....with your imagination on what 'woulda' happened if say, John McCain was investigated.

Countering facts and evidence with imagination is apparently right wing orthodoxy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump had six bankruptcies in Atlantic City, two of them coming after he had divested himself of mist of his equity while retaining management of the resorts and the Plaza hotel in New York.

Trump Resort in Puerto Rico, which he didn’t own but was developing and managing having convinced the owner that he could make them millions makes eight.

Trump sold the Toronto Trump Hotel to a Russian but was managing the property on his behalf when bankruptcy was declared.

Trump doesn’t own the Trump Tower in Chicago, having sold most of his shares when the project ran into financial difficulties during construction.

His Trump Tower in Nicaragua is in financial difficulty. The owner had the police throw the company out of his property, but they came right back claiming they had an enforceable contract. Cue the lawsuit.

You can google for links to these stories.

Gotcha, Trump's failed at everything he ever tried. I mean it's not like he's a billionaire now. Oh wait, he is ...

If Trump has deposited the money he inherited from his father into the stock market, he would have more money than he has now.

If not for his scams and his money laundering, he’s be broke.

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

 

[kaz]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Oh, directing someone else to commit a felony is also a crime. As is the fraudulent reimbursement scheme that Trump used.

Trump directed Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions before the election. And then lied about the illegal contributions repeatedly to try and cover it up.

And there's a paper trail and sworn testimony to prove it.

Now not filing a form that your lawyer paid your tart off but you paid it back is a "felony?"

So you're arguing Obama committed 1,300 felonies? Wow, you hate the skinny little black guy, don't you?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You people are fucking clueless. What was the last building that Trump/property developed? Trump Inc is nothing but a holding company now, they do not do any of their own developing. They sell the Trump name and they buy companies as a holding company and have little to no input in their day to day business operations.

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

What is Golf Gator's point? Lots of celebrities and and companies license out their names.

Marriott doesn't build every hotel they license their names for some. Celebrities license their names to clothing and fragrances.

My point is that Trump and his company have not been doing much developing in more than a decade. Trump Inc is a holding company

• Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[109][110] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[111]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[112][113] One of the Trump Organization’s partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[57][58] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[114][115]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.[citation needed] The licensed tower in Vancouver is a project primarily of Donald Jr.'s with its builder, "Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah".[57]
• Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[116]

• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama

• Trump World Seoul, Korea: Which Trump received a licensing fee of $5 million to lend his name.
• The Palm Trump International Hotel and Tower, Dubai
• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama
• Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico was a planned 3 tower, 25-story, 526 unit hotel condominium, San Diego. This project collapsed due to the project's failure to secure financing.
• Trump at Cap Cana will be located in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.
• Trump Tower Manila, Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines: The brand name and mark under license. Anticipated completion is to be announced.[citation needed] Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte "appointed Trump partner Jose Antonio to serve as a special envoy to the United States just before Trump's November victory".[58]
• Trump Tower, Mumbai, India.[117] "Billionaire Mangal Lodha is developing a 75-story, 300 apartments luxust residential project called Trump Towers building while serving as a regional vice president of a major political party."[58][118]
• Trump Towers Pune, India, built in association with Panchshil Realty in Pune's Kalyani Nagar area.[117][118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the largest super-luxury residential development in India with 1.25 million sq. ft. project near Golf Course Extension Road, which will be built by IREO alongside a retail complex for about Rs 1,000 crore.[118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the second project in Gurgaon tied up with developer M3M India to build a residential building in Gurgaon.[118]
• Trump Towers Kolkata, India is the result of tie up with Unimark Group and Trump Organization to build a 38 floor 400,000 sq. ft. residential project near Eastern Metropolitan Bypass stretch, Kolkata.[118]
• As of February 2017 in South America, the Trump Organization had one active project: the Trump Tower Punta del Este in Punta del Este, Uruguay. By that time, the company had ended its involvement with two projects in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: the partially built Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro and the unbuilt Trump Towers Rio office complex. The company also dropped plans for another office project,[119] the 35-story Trump Office Buenos Aires,[120] which was to be built in Buenos Aires, Argentina.[119] Paulo Figueiredo Filho partnered with the organization in Brazil and "worked mostly with the [Trump] children".[57]

Thanks for proving my point for me! You are very helpful.

 

[kaz]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

It seems Trump was in to some dirty shit
His financial dealings with the Russians and money laundering is just the tip of the iceberg

Now, his key people are turning on him and there is no place to hide

Any day now, lol.

Yup....that’s about how it works

Mueller does not want to release his findings until everything is in place

So after he stops throwing innocent people in prison.

What innocent people has he thrown in jail ? Trump should make this a big issue in my opinion.

He criticized the press. The poor dears are in hell, not prison. Leftists object to criticizing people. Can't you tell?

 

[bripat9643]

Gotcha, Trump's failed at everything he ever tried. I mean it's not like he's a billionaire now. Oh wait, he is ...

If Trump has deposited the money he inherited from his father into the stock market, he would have more money than he has now.

If not for his scams and his money laundering, he’s be broke.

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

 

[bripat9643]

You people are fucking clueless. What was the last building that Trump/property developed? Trump Inc is nothing but a holding company now, they do not do any of their own developing. They sell the Trump name and they buy companies as a holding company and have little to no input in their day to day business operations.

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

What is Golf Gator's point? Lots of celebrities and and companies license out their names.

Marriott doesn't build every hotel they license their names for some. Celebrities license their names to clothing and fragrances.

My point is that Trump and his company have not been doing much developing in more than a decade. Trump Inc is a holding company

• Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[109][110] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[111]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[112][113] One of the Trump Organization’s partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[57][58] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[114][115]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.[citation needed] The licensed tower in Vancouver is a project primarily of Donald Jr.'s with its builder, "Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah".[57]
• Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[116]

• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama

• Trump World Seoul, Korea: Which Trump received a licensing fee of $5 million to lend his name.
• The Palm Trump International Hotel and Tower, Dubai
• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama
• Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico was a planned 3 tower, 25-story, 526 unit hotel condominium, San Diego. This project collapsed due to the project's failure to secure financing.
• Trump at Cap Cana will be located in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.
• Trump Tower Manila, Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines: The brand name and mark under license. Anticipated completion is to be announced.[citation needed] Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte "appointed Trump partner Jose Antonio to serve as a special envoy to the United States just before Trump's November victory".[58]
• Trump Tower, Mumbai, India.[117] "Billionaire Mangal Lodha is developing a 75-story, 300 apartments luxust residential project called Trump Towers building while serving as a regional vice president of a major political party."[58][118]
• Trump Towers Pune, India, built in association with Panchshil Realty in Pune's Kalyani Nagar area.[117][118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the largest super-luxury residential development in India with 1.25 million sq. ft. project near Golf Course Extension Road, which will be built by IREO alongside a retail complex for about Rs 1,000 crore.[118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the second project in Gurgaon tied up with developer M3M India to build a residential building in Gurgaon.[118]
• Trump Towers Kolkata, India is the result of tie up with Unimark Group and Trump Organization to build a 38 floor 400,000 sq. ft. residential project near Eastern Metropolitan Bypass stretch, Kolkata.[118]
• As of February 2017 in South America, the Trump Organization had one active project: the Trump Tower Punta del Este in Punta del Este, Uruguay. By that time, the company had ended its involvement with two projects in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: the partially built Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro and the unbuilt Trump Towers Rio office complex. The company also dropped plans for another office project,[119] the 35-story Trump Office Buenos Aires,[120] which was to be built in Buenos Aires, Argentina.[119] Paulo Figueiredo Filho partnered with the organization in Brazil and "worked mostly with the [Trump] children".[57]

Thanks for proving my point for me! You are very helpful.

I proved exactly the opposite, moron.

 

[Skylar]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Oh, directing someone else to commit a felony is also a crime. As is the fraudulent reimbursement scheme that Trump used.

Trump directed Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions before the election. And then lied about the illegal contributions repeatedly to try and cover it up.

And there's a paper trail and sworn testimony to prove it.

Now not filing a form that your lawyer paid your tart off but you paid it back is a "felony?"

So you're arguing Obama committed 1,300 felonies? Wow, you hate the skinny little black guy, don't you?

Directing Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions is a crime. Reimbursing Cohen through fraud is a crime. Compelling others to lie to cover it up is a crime.

That Trump didn't file the proper paperwork for his direction of illegal campaign contributions and fraud is just icing on the cake.

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about.

 

[bripat9643]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Skylar is one of the dumbest snowflakes posting in this forum. most of his threads devolve into him saying little more than "Nuh uhn!" repeatedly.

 

[Skylar]

If Trump has deposited the money he inherited from his father into the stock market, he would have more money than he has now.

If not for his scams and his money laundering, he’s be broke.

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Dude, you make up shit all the time.

Remember when you insisted that Cohen wasn't sworn in, thus nothing he plead to was sworn testimony? You just made that up, backed by nothing.

And as the court transcript demonstrated, you didn't know what you were talking about. But you demand that we 'prove' our claims when your entire argument is just you making shit up backed by nothing?

Laughing......you can't be serious. But tell us again how Cohen wasn't sworn in. It makes me giggle.

 

[bripat9643]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Oh, directing someone else to commit a felony is also a crime. As is the fraudulent reimbursement scheme that Trump used.

Trump directed Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions before the election. And then lied about the illegal contributions repeatedly to try and cover it up.

And there's a paper trail and sworn testimony to prove it.

Now not filing a form that your lawyer paid your tart off but you paid it back is a "felony?"

So you're arguing Obama committed 1,300 felonies? Wow, you hate the skinny little black guy, don't you?

According to the snowflake worldview, In the case of Trump, a parking ticket is a felony, but Hillary can violate laws with impunity that others are sentenced to long prison sentences for violating.

 

[bripat9643]

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Dude, you make up shit all the time.

Remember when you insisted that Cohen wasn't sworn in, thus nothing he plead to was sworn testimony? You just made that up, backed by nothing.

And as the court transcript demonstrated, you didn't know what you were talking about. But you demand that we 'prove' our claims when your entire argument is just you making shit up backed by nothing?

Laughing......you can't be serious. But tell us again how Cohen wasn't sworn in. It makes me giggle.

If Cohen was sworn in, then prove it. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

 

[Skylar]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Skylar is one of the dumbest snowflakes posting in this forum. most of his threads devolve into him saying little more than "Nuh uhn!" repeatedly.

Or...me presenting evidence to prove my claims while you just make nonsense up.

Like, say....your claim that Cohen wasn't sworn in for his plea deal. You pulled that claim sideways out of your ass, backed by nothing.

I, on the other hand, had the court transcript. Which I cited and linked to. It demonstrated that Cohen was sworn in.

So its the court transcript vs. your imagination. And that has the same winner every time; Not you.

 

[kaz]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Oh, directing someone else to commit a felony is also a crime. As is the fraudulent reimbursement scheme that Trump used.

Trump directed Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions before the election. And then lied about the illegal contributions repeatedly to try and cover it up.

And there's a paper trail and sworn testimony to prove it.

Telling your lawyer, who you pay to help you know what you can and can't legally do, and telling someone else to commit a crime are entirely different things. You still don't grasp what a lawyer is or why business people hire them, do you?

Trump: OK, here's the game plan. You pay off my tart. We'll steal it from my campaign fund. Then I'll pay the fund back. Hahahahaha, I'm a criminal mastermind!

Cohen: Um ... as your lawyer, I have to inform you that you aren't actually committing a crime.

Trump: Got it covered, I'm not going to file the form ...

Cohen: Ooohhhhhh, you are just evil. {in his mind, Cohen files away Trump's devious failure to file the form in his mind so he can one day turn on Trump ...}