Trump is apparently an incredibly clean businessman

[bripat9643]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Skylar is one of the dumbest snowflakes posting in this forum. most of his threads devolve into him saying little more than "Nuh uhn!" repeatedly.

Or...me presenting evidence to prove my claims while you just make nonsense up.

Like, say....your claim that Cohen wasn't sworn in for his plea deal. You pulled that claim sideways out of your ass, backed by nothing.

I, on the other hand, had the court transcript. Which I cited and linked to. It demonstrated that Cohen was sworn in.

So its the court transcript vs. your imagination. And that has the same winner every time; Not you.

Actually, I just read the transcript, and Cohen was sworn in. However, that still doesn't prove jack shit.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

What is Golf Gator's point? Lots of celebrities and and companies license out their names.

Marriott doesn't build every hotel they license their names for some. Celebrities license their names to clothing and fragrances.

My point is that Trump and his company have not been doing much developing in more than a decade. Trump Inc is a holding company

• Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[109][110] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[111]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[112][113] One of the Trump Organization’s partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[57][58] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[114][115]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.[citation needed] The licensed tower in Vancouver is a project primarily of Donald Jr.'s with its builder, "Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah".[57]
• Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[116]

• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama

• Trump World Seoul, Korea: Which Trump received a licensing fee of $5 million to lend his name.
• The Palm Trump International Hotel and Tower, Dubai
• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama
• Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico was a planned 3 tower, 25-story, 526 unit hotel condominium, San Diego. This project collapsed due to the project's failure to secure financing.
• Trump at Cap Cana will be located in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.
• Trump Tower Manila, Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines: The brand name and mark under license. Anticipated completion is to be announced.[citation needed] Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte "appointed Trump partner Jose Antonio to serve as a special envoy to the United States just before Trump's November victory".[58]
• Trump Tower, Mumbai, India.[117] "Billionaire Mangal Lodha is developing a 75-story, 300 apartments luxust residential project called Trump Towers building while serving as a regional vice president of a major political party."[58][118]
• Trump Towers Pune, India, built in association with Panchshil Realty in Pune's Kalyani Nagar area.[117][118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the largest super-luxury residential development in India with 1.25 million sq. ft. project near Golf Course Extension Road, which will be built by IREO alongside a retail complex for about Rs 1,000 crore.[118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the second project in Gurgaon tied up with developer M3M India to build a residential building in Gurgaon.[118]
• Trump Towers Kolkata, India is the result of tie up with Unimark Group and Trump Organization to build a 38 floor 400,000 sq. ft. residential project near Eastern Metropolitan Bypass stretch, Kolkata.[118]
• As of February 2017 in South America, the Trump Organization had one active project: the Trump Tower Punta del Este in Punta del Este, Uruguay. By that time, the company had ended its involvement with two projects in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: the partially built Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro and the unbuilt Trump Towers Rio office complex. The company also dropped plans for another office project,[119] the 35-story Trump Office Buenos Aires,[120] which was to be built in Buenos Aires, Argentina.[119] Paulo Figueiredo Filho partnered with the organization in Brazil and "worked mostly with the [Trump] children".[57]

Thanks for proving my point for me! You are very helpful.

I proved exactly the opposite, moron.

No, you are just to stupid to realize you made my case for me.

 

[Skylar]

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Dude, you make up shit all the time.

Remember when you insisted that Cohen wasn't sworn in, thus nothing he plead to was sworn testimony? You just made that up, backed by nothing.

And as the court transcript demonstrated, you didn't know what you were talking about. But you demand that we 'prove' our claims when your entire argument is just you making shit up backed by nothing?

Laughing......you can't be serious. But tell us again how Cohen wasn't sworn in. It makes me giggle.

If Cohen was sworn in, then prove it. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

I already have. I've cited the court transcript and linked to it....where Cohen was sworn in by the Court. For the THIRD time, here it is:

THE COURT: So, at this time, I am going to direct my deputy to administer the oath to Mr. Cohen.
(Defendant sworn)

THE COURT: Mr. Cohen, do you understand, sir, that you are now under oath, and that if you answer any of my questions falsely, your false or untrue answers may later be used against you in another prosecution for perjury or making a false statement?

THE DEFENDANT: I do, your Honor.

Read Michael Cohen's plea in which he implicates President Trump - CNNPolitics

And so much for your imaginary claim that Cohen wasn't sworn in, backed by nothing.

Thank you for again demonstrating the absurdity of you citing yourself. And for showing us what your imagination is worth;

Jack shit

 

[bripat9643]

You people are fucking clueless. What was the last building that Trump/property developed? Trump Inc is nothing but a holding company now, they do not do any of their own developing. They sell the Trump name and they buy companies as a holding company and have little to no input in their day to day business operations.

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

Crooked deals on all of them

Bankruptcies on 7 of them. Neither of the resorts in Scotland have ever shown a profit.

These businesses are set up as subsidiary corporations of the Trump Corporation. Resort Corporation (RC) then contracts with the Trump Corporation (TC) to build and manage the RC. The contract calls for big bucks to go to TC for their services in managing the construction, and the Trump name to stay on the resort. Then TC starts selling off shares in the RC, usually divesting itself of most of its shares. TC or Trump personally retains a small stake. 5% to 15%.

When the resort opens, TC runs it under the management agreement, getting a huge management fee for their services and the prestige and good will in being a “Trump Property”. When the resort goes broke because TC bled it dry, Trump goes to another country and makes a deal on another resort property.

None of the above is illegal. Unethical, destructive and bad for business, yes, but not illegal.

The number of Trump bankruptcies that snowflakes claim ranges anywhere from 4 to twelve. However, the fact is that Trump has had no bankruptcies since his Atlantic city casinos went bust. Yet, you claim that all his deals are designed to produce bankruptcy. There appears to be a flaw in your "logic."

This is because after Trump Entertainment Resorts went bankrupt for the last time Trump Inc was reorganized as a holding company and Trump quit making routine business decisions and just started selling his name and brand, which was the best business decision he had ever made.

I just proved that is bullshit.

 

[Skylar]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

You don't know what the Mueller investigation has found regarding Trump's business dealings as those findings haven't been released yet.

So you're offering us your imagination on how 'incredibly clean' Trump is.

It's hilarious how you keep saying Trump is guilty, but if anyone argues with you then you say we don't know because Mueller hasn't released his report. You're as dumb as a brick.

And I said Trump is guilty. He needs to be fined for not filing a form. Obama did it 1,300 times, make sure Trump pays whatever Obama did divided by 1,300. It's the right thing to do

Skylar is one of the dumbest snowflakes posting in this forum. most of his threads devolve into him saying little more than "Nuh uhn!" repeatedly.

Or...me presenting evidence to prove my claims while you just make nonsense up.

Like, say....your claim that Cohen wasn't sworn in for his plea deal. You pulled that claim sideways out of your ass, backed by nothing.

I, on the other hand, had the court transcript. Which I cited and linked to. It demonstrated that Cohen was sworn in.

So its the court transcript vs. your imagination. And that has the same winner every time; Not you.

Actually, I just read the transcript, and Cohen was sworn in. However, that still doesn't prove jack shit.

Laughing......so your claims before that Cohen wasn't sworn in -backed by nothing- was just hapless, imaginary bullshit then?

Remember.....the only one saying that Cohen wasn't sworn in, was you. The only evidence you ever offered to back that claim, was your imagination.

This is why you citing your imagination means jack shit: you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Skylar]

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

Crooked deals on all of them

Bankruptcies on 7 of them. Neither of the resorts in Scotland have ever shown a profit.

These businesses are set up as subsidiary corporations of the Trump Corporation. Resort Corporation (RC) then contracts with the Trump Corporation (TC) to build and manage the RC. The contract calls for big bucks to go to TC for their services in managing the construction, and the Trump name to stay on the resort. Then TC starts selling off shares in the RC, usually divesting itself of most of its shares. TC or Trump personally retains a small stake. 5% to 15%.

When the resort opens, TC runs it under the management agreement, getting a huge management fee for their services and the prestige and good will in being a “Trump Property”. When the resort goes broke because TC bled it dry, Trump goes to another country and makes a deal on another resort property.

None of the above is illegal. Unethical, destructive and bad for business, yes, but not illegal.

The number of Trump bankruptcies that snowflakes claim ranges anywhere from 4 to twelve. However, the fact is that Trump has had no bankruptcies since his Atlantic city casinos went bust. Yet, you claim that all his deals are designed to produce bankruptcy. There appears to be a flaw in your "logic."

This is because after Trump Entertainment Resorts went bankrupt for the last time Trump Inc was reorganized as a holding company and Trump quit making routine business decisions and just started selling his name and brand, which was the best business decision he had ever made.

I just proved that is bullshit.

Like you 'proved' that Cohen hadn't been sworn in?

Laughing.....your imagination isn't proof, Brit. Its just hapless nonsense that you tell yourself on topics you know nothing about.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If Trump has deposited the money he inherited from his father into the stock market, he would have more money than he has now.

If not for his scams and his money laundering, he’s be broke.

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Well yeah, when you sell something like 6000 apartments in NY City you get turn a pretty penny since most had been owned prior to Donald even being born. The kids split the profit from those 4 ways, Rubin Schron bought them for $600,000,000. All the rest of the property belonging to the company stayed with the company and is now owned by Donald.

 

[Dragonlady]

• Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[109][110] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[111]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[112][113] One of the Trump Organization’s partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[57][58] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[114][115]
• Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.[citation needed] The licensed tower in Vancouver is a project primarily of Donald Jr.'s with its builder, "Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah".[57]
• Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[116]

• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama

• Trump World Seoul, Korea: Which Trump received a licensing fee of $5 million to lend his name.
• The Palm Trump International Hotel and Tower, Dubai
• Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama
• Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico was a planned 3 tower, 25-story, 526 unit hotel condominium, San Diego. This project collapsed due to the project's failure to secure financing.
• Trump at Cap Cana will be located in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.
• Trump Tower Manila, Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines: The brand name and mark under license. Anticipated completion is to be announced.[citation needed] Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte "appointed Trump partner Jose Antonio to serve as a special envoy to the United States just before Trump's November victory".[58]
• Trump Tower, Mumbai, India.[117] "Billionaire Mangal Lodha is developing a 75-story, 300 apartments luxust residential project called Trump Towers building while serving as a regional vice president of a major political party."[58][118]
• Trump Towers Pune, India, built in association with Panchshil Realty in Pune's Kalyani Nagar area.[117][118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the largest super-luxury residential development in India with 1.25 million sq. ft. project near Golf Course Extension Road, which will be built by IREO alongside a retail complex for about Rs 1,000 crore.[118]
• Trump Towers, Gurugram, India is the second project in Gurgaon tied up with developer M3M India to build a residential building in Gurgaon.[118]
• Trump Towers Kolkata, India is the result of tie up with Unimark Group and Trump Organization to build a 38 floor 400,000 sq. ft. residential project near Eastern Metropolitan Bypass stretch, Kolkata.[118]
• As of February 2017 in South America, the Trump Organization had one active project: the Trump Tower Punta del Este in Punta del Este, Uruguay. By that time, the company had ended its involvement with two projects in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: the partially built Trump Hotel Rio de Janeiro and the unbuilt Trump Towers Rio office complex. The company also dropped plans for another office project,[119] the 35-story Trump Office Buenos Aires,[120] which was to be built in Buenos Aires, Argentina.[119] Paulo Figueiredo Filho partnered with the organization in Brazil and "worked mostly with the [Trump] children".[57]

Thank you for confirming everything I wrote.

The Israeli property was sold, the development fell through. Given that the sale price was 7 times what he paid for the property, for the sale was likely part of a money laundering scheme. Trump has been heavily involved with Russian money laundering since 2000.

Trump has been evicted from the Panama property by the owner who has taken the Trump name off the building.

Many of the deals collapsed before completion due to an inability to get financing because banks know how Trumps scams work.

The rest of the properties on your list - all licensing deals just as I described, with management contracts. All of them are under construction.

Trump's hotels are practically giving rooms away

Where Did Donald Trump Get Two Hundred Million Dollars to Buy His Money-Losing Scottish Golf Club?

 

[Dragonlady]

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

Crooked deals on all of them

Bankruptcies on 7 of them. Neither of the resorts in Scotland have ever shown a profit.

These businesses are set up as subsidiary corporations of the Trump Corporation. Resort Corporation (RC) then contracts with the Trump Corporation (TC) to build and manage the RC. The contract calls for big bucks to go to TC for their services in managing the construction, and the Trump name to stay on the resort. Then TC starts selling off shares in the RC, usually divesting itself of most of its shares. TC or Trump personally retains a small stake. 5% to 15%.

When the resort opens, TC runs it under the management agreement, getting a huge management fee for their services and the prestige and good will in being a “Trump Property”. When the resort goes broke because TC bled it dry, Trump goes to another country and makes a deal on another resort property.

None of the above is illegal. Unethical, destructive and bad for business, yes, but not illegal.

The number of Trump bankruptcies that snowflakes claim ranges anywhere from 4 to twelve.

However, the fact is that Trump has had no bankruptcies since his Atlantic city casinos went bust. Yet, you claim that all his deals are designed to produce bankruptcy. There appears to be a flaw in your "logic."

Trump had six bankruptcies in Atlantic City, two of them coming after he had divested himself of mist of his equity while retaining management of the resorts and the Plaza hotel in New York.

Trump Resort in Puerto Rico, which he didn’t own but was developing and managing having convinced the owner that he could make them millions makes eight.

Trump sold the Toronto Trump Hotel to a Russian but was managing the property on his behalf when bankruptcy was declared.

Trump doesn’t own the Trump Tower in Chicago, having sold most of his shares when the project ran into financial difficulties during construction.

His Trump Tower in Nicaragua is in financial difficulty. The owner had the police throw the company out of his property, but they came right back claiming they had an enforceable contract. Cue the lawsuit.

You can google for links to these stories.

I looked up the wiki article about Trump tower in Chicago. It doesn't mention a thing about Trump selling his shares.

There seems to be some financial problems with the Trump tower in Toronto, but I can't find anything about Trump Tower in Nicaragua.

You'll have to provide the links proving your claims. It's not my job.

You’re either incredibly stupid or incredibly lazy. I found two articles with google on Panama. This one popped up at the top of my search.

Trump Company Lawyers Asked Panama President for Help in Hotel Dispute

Same with the Toronto search.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He built the tower in Chicago, dumbass, and he also built the golf course in Scotland. Trump was building resorts all over the world before he ran for office.

Crooked deals on all of them

Bankruptcies on 7 of them. Neither of the resorts in Scotland have ever shown a profit.

These businesses are set up as subsidiary corporations of the Trump Corporation. Resort Corporation (RC) then contracts with the Trump Corporation (TC) to build and manage the RC. The contract calls for big bucks to go to TC for their services in managing the construction, and the Trump name to stay on the resort. Then TC starts selling off shares in the RC, usually divesting itself of most of its shares. TC or Trump personally retains a small stake. 5% to 15%.

When the resort opens, TC runs it under the management agreement, getting a huge management fee for their services and the prestige and good will in being a “Trump Property”. When the resort goes broke because TC bled it dry, Trump goes to another country and makes a deal on another resort property.

None of the above is illegal. Unethical, destructive and bad for business, yes, but not illegal.

The number of Trump bankruptcies that snowflakes claim ranges anywhere from 4 to twelve. However, the fact is that Trump has had no bankruptcies since his Atlantic city casinos went bust. Yet, you claim that all his deals are designed to produce bankruptcy. There appears to be a flaw in your "logic."

This is because after Trump Entertainment Resorts went bankrupt for the last time Trump Inc was reorganized as a holding company and Trump quit making routine business decisions and just started selling his name and brand, which was the best business decision he had ever made.

I just proved that is bullshit.

I am truly embarrassed for you and your complete ignorance.

Going down the list your provided:

The Elite Tower in Ramat Gan Israel was never actually built.

Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake is not built yet and is nothing more than a Trump branded property, meaning he sold them his name. He is not involved in the development.

The Trump International Hotel and Tower Vancouver is being developed by the Holborn Group, not Trump.

Trump Towers Istanbul rent the name Trump and was developed and built totally with no input from the Trump Org. In fact the owners are trying their best to get the name off the building.

The Bahia Grand Panama licensed the Trump brand name for a while and now has no connection to Trump at all

The Palm Trump International Hotel & Tower was never even built. It was talked about for 3 years and then it died.

The Bahia Grand Panama was not built or designed by the Trump Org, they just licensed the Trump brand name

Trump Towers Pune is not owned by or developed by the Trump Org, again just the name was licensed.

I will not do any more, as I really do not want to embarrass you any more.

 

[Oldstyle]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

Anyone want to guess what would happen if every single American was subjected to the same scrutiny that Trump and his "associates" have been subjected to for the past year? The courts would be swamped with indictments would be my take on that...yet after all this time they still have come up with nothing on Trump despite his overseeing a MASSIVE business empire? Sorry, liberals but not only have you not come up with an impeachable offense to nail Trump on...you seem to have revealed him to be surprisingly by the book. Sucks to be you...

 

[Dragonlady]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

Anyone want to guess what would happen if every single American was subjected to the same scrutiny that Trump and his "associates" have been subjected to for the past year? The courts would be swamped with indictments would be my take on that...yet after all this time they still have come up with nothing on Trump despite his overseeing a MASSIVE business empire? Sorry, liberals but not only have you not come up with an impeachable offense to nail Trump on...you seem to have revealed him to be surprisingly by the book. Sucks to be you...

You keep saying that they have nothing on Trump.

This ignores the suit in New York Court regarding the illegal activities of the Trump Foundation, the various Trump U law suits that he settled, and the ongoing investigations.

Just because Mueller hasn’t file his report or publically accused Trump of anything, yet, is neither here nor there. It doesn’t mean he “has nothing”. It means he hasn’t moved against Trump, Stone, Junior, Eric, or Jared despite a mountain of evidence against them shows how cautiously Mueller is proceeding.

It took two years before the Watergate Investigation recommended impeachment charges. The Mueller Investigation just marked its First Anniversary. It takes time to build an air tight case.

 

[bripat9643]

You made that up. You don't know that because no one knows how much he inherited.

This is just butt hurt anyway. No one's opinion of Trump is over the rate of return he got from his father's inheritance, including yours.

That's just more of your butt hurt

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Well yeah, when you sell something like 6000 apartments in NY City you get turn a pretty penny since most had been owned prior to Donald even being born. The kids split the profit from those 4 ways, Rubin Schron bought them for $600,000,000. All the rest of the property belonging to the company stayed with the company and is now owned by Donald.

Source?

 

[rightwinger]

It's good to see the little wolves turn on the bigger wolf. Trump will be rended from muzzle to butt hole by the time all his people are done with him. That is good that the big mobster will be taken down by the little mobsters.

Mueller is working his way up the food chain
They have very little choice but to give up the next level

I marvel at how you can't distinguish between reality and your imagination.

The evidence grows every day while Fingerboy remains in denial

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Trump is apparently an incredibly clean businessman”

But clearly an incredibly bad president.

 

[rightwinger]

I mean wow. One of the businesses I owned was a restaurant. The government red tape and regulations involved in opening that. And Trump was a developer. He must have dealt with hundreds of corrupt government officials. Government puts up their hurdles, they don't care what it costs you or if you create any jobs. They make that very clear to you.

And yet, with a special prosecutor:

- Focused only on investigating Trump
- With an unlimited budget
- Who has no time restrictions
- With no restrictions onwhat he investigates about Trump
- Who's investigating everyone and anyone Trump ever dealt with any time in their lives, not just when they were working with Trump
- Is willing to get any crime no matter how petty
- And who can even create crimes by analyzing anything said and prosecuting for any contradiction for a crime they created

And they still can't get shit on the guy. Democrats are now hanging their hats on a couple convicted criminals they hope will say anything about Trump to somehow lighten their sentences even though they're both liars.

My hats off to Trump. The guy may be a braggart and a dog to women. But wow, legally, he's incredibly clean. A round of applause

Anyone want to guess what would happen if every single American was subjected to the same scrutiny that Trump and his "associates" have been subjected to for the past year? The courts would be swamped with indictments would be my take on that...yet after all this time they still have come up with nothing on Trump despite his overseeing a MASSIVE business empire? Sorry, liberals but not only have you not come up with an impeachable offense to nail Trump on...you seem to have revealed him to be surprisingly by the book. Sucks to be you...

You keep saying that they have nothing on Trump.

This ignores the suit in New York Court regarding the illegal activities of the Trump Foundation, the various Trump U law suits that he settled, and the ongoing investigations.

Just because Mueller hasn’t file his report or publically accused Trump of anything, yet, is neither here nor there. It doesn’t mean he “has nothing”. It means he hasn’t moved against Trump, Stone, Junior, Eric, or Jared despite a mountain of evidence against them shows how cautiously Mueller is proceeding.

It took two years before the Watergate Investigation recommended impeachment charges. The Mueller Investigation just marked its First Anniversary. It takes time to build an air tight case.

Watergate looked like an investigation unrelated to Nixon

Then as his key henchmen fell, it became more and more evidendent that Nixon was involved

Nixon: I am not a crook!
Trump: No collusion, no collusion

 

[BlueGin]

“Trump is apparently an incredibly clean businessman”

But clearly an incredibly bad president.

Better than Hillary

 

[dblack]

Yes, that certainly proves that Trump is mind-blowingly clean. How he managed to not break any regulation or law is a miracle.

It's pretty amazing. He's like Jesus or something.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He inherited the entire company that his grandma had started. No business that he started on his own succeeded.

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Well yeah, when you sell something like 6000 apartments in NY City you get turn a pretty penny since most had been owned prior to Donald even being born. The kids split the profit from those 4 ways, Rubin Schron bought them for $600,000,000. All the rest of the property belonging to the company stayed with the company and is now owned by Donald.

Source?

Rubin Schron - Wikipedia

• In 2003, he purchased 6,000 outer borough apartments the estate of Fred Trump.[3]

 

[bripat9643]

He inherited the company in 1999. Your claim is obvious horseshit.

You are so ignorant of details.

Everything that Trump did prior to 1999 in the area of real estate was done via E. Trump & Son starting in the early 70s. In 1999 after Fred died the origial apartments from Trump's dad and grandmother were sold and distributed between the 4 kids, the rest stayed with the company that became known as Trump Inc.
Without his grandmother's business there was no Commodore Hotel, no Trump Tower, no Trump Plaza, all those were done using the resources of his grandmothers company.

There is not a single business that he started on his own succeeded

You'll have to prove that. I'm not going to accept the claims of a psycho Trump hating snowflake at face value. I believe the other siblings received significant percentages of the company.

Well yeah, when you sell something like 6000 apartments in NY City you get turn a pretty penny since most had been owned prior to Donald even being born. The kids split the profit from those 4 ways, Rubin Schron bought them for $600,000,000. All the rest of the property belonging to the company stayed with the company and is now owned by Donald.

Source?

Rubin Schron - Wikipedia

• In 2003, he purchased 6,000 outer borough apartments the estate of Fred Trump.[3]

You proved Schron bought the properties. That's all you proved. Now prove that's the money the Trump siblings received for their inheritance.