Trump lost me, most insensitive ahole Covid remark

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

 

[Synthaholic]

Obama was really good at dancing around the truth while reading from his teleprompter.

You’re oblivious to the irony.

You're obliviously a retard.
Trump doesn't use one like Obama.
Obama demanded to know questions in advance.
Trump will answer any question.
So you can shove your irony.

Trump uses one at every single event. Even his rallies.

 

[Synthaholic]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

 

[Synthaholic]

This has a lot of truth.

You're comparing urinating on someone to breathing in the general vicinity of someone. Hyperbole undermines your position, even if it was in a silly meme. Regardless, There is contested ground between your right to reasonable safety in public and other's rights to breathe freely in public. IMHO, it's best to let individuals decide. If you want to shun non-mask wearers, you can, and they're easy to spot.

The peeing one is funny, if one were to pee with the force of a sneeze, there would be spray through their cheap ass costco jeans.

I’m happy to read this post. Hopefully it means you’ll stay the fuck out of Costco.

 

[Synthaholic]

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat.

And you will not vote for any Democrat. So what’s your point, fake libertarian?

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama was really good at dancing around the truth while reading from his teleprompter.

You’re oblivious to the irony.

You're obliviously a retard.
Trump doesn't use one like Obama.
Obama demanded to know questions in advance.
Trump will answer any question.
So you can shove your irony.

Trump uses one at every single event. Even his rallies.

Does he?

Every single event?
Even press conferences?
Does he read his responses to questions?

Does Trump demand all questions in advance too?

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

 

[Synthaholic]

Obama was really good at dancing around the truth while reading from his teleprompter.

You’re oblivious to the irony.

You're obliviously a retard.
Trump doesn't use one like Obama.
Obama demanded to know questions in advance.
Trump will answer any question.
So you can shove your irony.

Trump uses one at every single event. Even his rallies.

Does he?

Every single event?
Even press conferences?
Does he read his responses to questions?

Does Trump demand all questions in advance too?

Neither did Obama.

 

[kaz]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

 

[kaz]

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat.

And you will not vote for any Democrat. So what’s your point, fake libertarian?

That's true, Syndi. I don't know any Democrat currently in the party I would vote for. Your point?

And you think a real libertarian would vote Democrat? OMG, there is so much air between your ears

 

[kaz]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

 

[Rigby5]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

I usually vote democrat, but only because they tend to be against illegal wars for profits, and support more equitable social services.
When they are bloody war mongers like Hillary and her "Arab Spring", then they should be executed as a war criminal, and not elected.

 

[Rigby5]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

 

[Slade3200]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

 

[Dale Smith]

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

Unreal, what a heartless fuck. Why not just reopen everything now?

You do realize that he and most of your fellow tRumplings have been saying this all along, right?

Leftards governors fulfilled that prophecy by loading up nursing homes with the infected, you know this, right, Creepitus?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

No, they succeeded. MASKS and shutting down countries DONT WORK

 

[kaz]

I usually vote democrat, but only because they tend to be against illegal wars for profits ...

What we have her is someone NOT paying attention. Fewer illegal wars for profits? Seriously? Democrats just want to be behind the steering wheel. Slick and Hussein got us in and fought ENDLESS wars.

OMG, it's still wet behind your ears!

Democrats get us in fewer wars. OMG, that's classic

 

[Slade3200]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

No, they succeeded. MASKS and shutting down countries DONT WORK

They succeeded? Please show proof of that

 

[Rambunctious]

Its not insensitive to tell the truth about who this virus is killing...what is insensitive is what Obama and OBiden did with the swine flu...they ordered states to stop testing and reporting new infections....now that's insensitive....this virus is quickly approaching the death rate of the seasonal flu of 2018...and we had a vaccine for that one....keep telling the truth Trump insensitive or not.....

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

No, they succeeded. MASKS and shutting down countries DONT WORK

They succeeded? Please show proof of that