Trump lost me, most insensitive ahole Covid remark

[Flopper]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

Herd immunity for this virus is 70% of the population been infected or being vaccinated.. Without a vaccine that means 230 million people have to be positive for the virus to reach herd immunity. Since we have only 4 million confirmed cases, that leaves us with 236 million to go less the number positive that have never been tested.

 

[Synthaholic]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

 

[Synthaholic]

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat.

And you will not vote for any Democrat. So what’s your point, fake libertarian?

That's true, Syndi. I don't know any Democrat currently in the party I would vote for. Your point?

And you think a real libertarian would vote Democrat? OMG, there is so much air between your ears

Then what’s your point about me voting for Democrats in every election, fake libertarian?

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

 

[Billiejeens]

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

Unreal, what a heartless fuck. Why not just reopen everything now?

People live forever where you are?

 

[Billiejeens]

Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

He's not wrong.

Statistics show that 98% of people will die at some point.

Factually False

 

[Billiejeens]

"Older people and those with health issues will get sick and die but I want to wish Giselle Maxwell to stay well"

Damn are you butthurt.

 

[pknopp]

"Older people and those with health issues will get sick and die but I want to wish Giselle Maxwell to stay well"

Damn are you butthurt.

Everyone should be.

 

[Crepitus]

By not wearing a mask you are deciding for everyone you come in contact with.

Incorrect. I'm neither infected nor "asymtomatically" infected.
People are as likely to catch covid19 from me as they are to catch stupidity from you.

Put on the damn mask.

I do, when I deem it necessary.

Hounding know what asymptomatic means, do you.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?

 

[Andylusion]

“Older people, vulnerable people are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen despite whatever you do. Because with all our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive.”

Unreal, what a heartless fuck. Why not just reopen everything now?

It's true though. The idea that you are going to prevent this from reaching people... absurd. The older people, and vulnerable, some will get sick and die.

I don't know what you want him to do about it.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Oh no, a leftist thinks I'm not really a libertarian. I'm going to cry now ...



Sorry, I tried ...

BTW, you also don't know how to capitalize. I said I am NOT a member of the Libertarian Party. I am just libertarian. I know you don't know what that means with your going to government schools and all

You’re not a libertarian. You’re a Trumper, through and through.

And you're a Biden Humper. Did you have anything but name calling? LOL, I crack myself up. Like you have anything but name calling ....

Interesting that you think Trumper is the same as name-calling. You must associate it with something bad. But you were a teabagger, too, so...

Nope. Biden is irrelevant. I would vote for a turnip over Trump.

How long did it take you to stop opening your mouth as wide as you could every time someone mentioned teabagging?

And this is how stupid you are. Your standard is that to support Trump means you love him and agree with him on every issue, but you don't even have to like him to vote for Biden. It's just more of your brainless drivel

I’m voting to remove Trump from office.

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

Yes. Syndi would vote for any Democrat. So saying she has a specific reason is obviously a lie. Good call out there

It's actually a tell, she knows that biden is in cognitive crisis so she has to hedge her bets on why she or any democrat is voting for the candidate of thier party, when the wheels come off the bus and biden forgets who or what he is and has to resign they can all pretend it was a protest vote.

I voted for Biden in the 1988 primary over Dukakis and the 2008 primary over Obama, but not the 2020 primary (Bernie). So I’m perfectly happy with Joe Biden as president.

So that’s another FAIL for you.

So you're confirming he was right then calling it a fail, Syndi? I hope you're hot, you're not making a living unless it's on your back

No, fake libertarian - the claim was that I’ll vote for Biden because I’ll vote for any democrat. It’s a FAIL because I’ve voted for Biden in the 1980s and the 2000s. And I’ll vote for him again in 2020. And I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because Republicans are traitors and criminals.

Will you cry again if trump wins?

 

[pknopp]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



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I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

 

[Slade3200]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

No, they succeeded. MASKS and shutting down countries DONT WORK

They succeeded? Please show proof of that

You consider that a success? Did they ever reach herd immunity?

experts are warning that the path Sweden took came at a high price: Sweden's death toll was 11 times that of neighboring Norway, and the current drop in fatalities is on a par with Haiti or Pakistan, countries that are struggling to control outbreaks

Sweden's coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it as a success

Sweden's coronavirus deaths have fallen to close to zero. It previously had one of the highest death rates in the world.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



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I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

Examples please?

 

[Andylusion]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



View attachment 366465

I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

No, we don't. We have a few things at best. But most of what the US has done in the world, has been to the benefit of the entire world.

 

[pknopp]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



View attachment 366465

I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

Examples please?

Lying about Iraq and Syria would be two big ones.

 

[pknopp]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



View attachment 366465

I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

No, we don't. We have a few things at best. But most of what the US has done in the world, has been to the benefit of the entire world.

OK...a few. Should we not apologize for those?

 

[Andylusion]

Incorrect, you are voting for the democrat as you are told too.

as always.

is your candidate that bad?

I’ve voted for Democrats my entire life. It’s the only correct choice.

Yes, if you're looking for handouts.

And that was the point. You said you were voting "against Trump." But that's not really true, you'd vote Democrat no matter who the candidates were

No, because Democrats win wars that Republicans start, clean up financial messes Republicans leave us with, and stand up to dictators around the world.

Did you forget Obammy's world apology tour?



View attachment 366465

I don't care much for Obama but we do have a lot to apologize for.

No, we don't. We have a few things at best. But most of what the US has done in the world, has been to the benefit of the entire world.

OK...a few. Should we not apologize for those?

Sure. Not one of things Obama apologized for, is in those few things. Obama basically apologized for us doing what was right.

 

[Slade3200]

It's true tho....

We should re-open everything now, where masks inside, protect the at risk.


We were never supposed to NOT get it, we were supposed to flatten the curve. Ride the wave to herd immunity n shit.


Stay safe.

Is that what you think the other countries did? You know the ones who have no more deaths. Got everybody infected and killed it through herd immunity??

what a horrible idea you’ve been fed

What was the purpose for shutting down?

To social distance and slow the spread

Correct, but why?

why do we need to slow the spread?

So less people get sick, hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and less people die... I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make

1. wrong, it was never to prevent you from getting sick.


2. Correct. the shut down and social distancing is to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That's it. it was never intended to prevent you from ever catching it.


See you agree with me and you didn't even know it. I know I know it feels good.

I don’t agree with you. How do you think so many other countries have such a low case/death count right now? It’s not because they hit herd immunity... less people are getting sick and less people are dying.

that’s was obviously a major factor I don’t see how you can argue otherwise

You are confused, so you know that the reason we shut down was to not overwhelm the hospitals yet your arguing that its about not getting sick? which is it.

Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.


Other countries have lower death rates due to culture, and draconian governments. we have a culture of anti-authority and individualism in the US. we distrust government and when it starts hurting we have no problem defying such.

I opened up my building in defiance of cuomo. No problems here, why is that? Do you think New york and new jerseys flattening of the curve has anything to do with say masks, social distancing, etc?


why does FL have nearly the same number of cases but 1/5 the deaths?


Ask questions my friend, you are being lied to about this virus.

Reasons for the shut down can be BOTH to reduce the spread of the sickness and to not overwhelm hospitals. Both can be true and work hand in hand. It’s not one or the other

True, however the point was to not overwhelm the hospitals and yes reduce the spread does this. reduce the incident rate, not reduce the spread so you don't get it.

Please reread what you just wrote

I did whats up, reduce the spread incident rate to not overwhelm the hospitals.

Are you trying to draw a distinction between the “spread incident rate” and the spread? Also are you trying to say that social distancing doesn’t effect the death count? I just want to be clear

Social distancing and even n95 or better masks do work if done correctly, here in NYC and NJ people are ignoring social distancing rules and are using bandannas or at best surgical masks under thier noses.


Yet no spike, btw.

Didn’t this conversation start because you said we needed to be open for business because the shutdown does nothing to prevent the spread and deaths from the virus? It was only to not overwhelm hospitals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that was your whole premise that started the debate.

no, that's not how the conversation started.


I think we should open up, with n95 or surgical mask or better rules and let people take care of themselves. Open as much as we can with proper masks indoors, social distance, etc....



bandannas under your nose don't work.

Well then I don’t know what we are arguing about. We are Trying to open and due to sloppy messaging and poor guidelines and reckless behavior we do so too quickly and blew the months of shelter work that sacrificed so many businesses and now the problem is surging again.

I told you you agreed with me.


but here is where we disagree, we are surging, but only in areas where they never had their "Wave".


bonus is the death rate in these states is 1/5 that of new york.

The death rate is not an accurate number. We are testing many more people now than we did when NY was surging... also we are seeing more young people infected now as seniors are more prepared to social distance. But I do agree we are getting better at avoiding and treating the disease.

sure it is, it is clearly going down, it's below 1.3%



but you have to watch the hospitalization capacity rating, thats what flattening the curve is for.



young people should get infected, (no not on purpose) and they should do it at once, that would starve the virus. think about it.

That’s idiotic. Young people are still dying from it. Yes at a very low rate but to promote them getting infected is rediculous. Especially since many can be carrying and spreading it to old people without even knowing it.

young people are dying at such a low rate it's not even like a thing.



Most of those who died and young like 99% of them had underlying conditions.



I am no "promoting" them purposefully getting infected, what I am saying is that it should be expected and they should go about thier days with a mask, with social distancing, but everything open.

A 9 year old died today in Florida.

And closing stores, "Flattening the curve" is what killed the MOST people.
The way to the smallest death count is if we isolate the vulnerable, but then accelerate the young and healthy acquire herd immunity as quickly as possible.
We could have had this over with in March, with less than 30,000 deaths.

What is with you herd immunity people?! Sweden tried it and it failed... what in the world makes you think that would work here?

Herd immunity for this virus is 70% of the population been infected or being vaccinated.. Without a vaccine that means 230 million people have to be positive for the virus to reach herd immunity. Since we have only 4 million confirmed cases, that leaves us with 236 million to go less the number positive that have never been tested.

Yes, the notion that we should rush to infect over 200 million people is frankly insane. I dont know why I even engage with people who push such ideas but I like To see how they try and explain it