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Not a straw man at all. White supremacists groups exist on campuses and do make this type of demand.Which, in objective topics, is not a matter of opinion. Politics are different than academics c, rigorous topics.What you consider far from the norm may not be what someone else considers far from the norm.
Second, even with politics: if MLK speaks, then the grand wizard of the KKK must also be paid to speak? Fuck that.
Strawman.
Join us in reality, Chris.
So? Nobody is forced to attend. Nobody is forced to agree. Nobody is harmed by listening to other points of view.
Now you're just lying. No, you would not be okay with it. Neither would I. And it was the CONTENT of their presentation to which I was speaking. Try to focus, these bait and switch attempts by you are distracting.But they have to pay for it. You would be cool with your money going to a pedophile who wants equal time to speak about why pedophilia should be legal and even recognized as marriage?Yes they do. They do not have to attend.
No. You need to think this through, more.
Why not, we have transgenders speaking to small children at libraries!
Trump orders colleges to back free speech or lose funding
President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday requiring U.S. colleges to protect free speech on their campuses or risk losing federal research funding.
The new order directs federal agencies to ensure that any college or university receiving research grants agrees to promote free speech and the exchange of ideas, and to follow federal rules guiding free expression.
“Even as universities have received billions and billions of dollars from taxpayers, many have become increasingly hostile to free speech and to the First Amendment,” Trump said at a White House signing ceremony. “These universities have tried to restrict free thought, impose total conformity and shut down the voices of great young Americans.”
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see link for the rest of the story.
but good. if they're not going to allow both sides equal time, then no $ for you.
But are forced to pay for it, without any say.So? Nobody is forced to attend.
But hey, I will remember that you are fine with this idea. I will not forget.
Not a straw man at all. White supremacists groups exist on campuses and do make this type of demand.Which, in objective topics, is not a matter of opinion. Politics are different than academics c, rigorous topics.What you consider far from the norm may not be what someone else considers far from the norm.
Second, even with politics: if MLK speaks, then the grand wizard of the KKK must also be paid to speak? Fuck that.
Strawman.
Join us in reality, Chris.
So? Nobody is forced to attend. Nobody is forced to agree. Nobody is harmed by listening to other points of view.
I'm all for promoting free speech but Trump's approach seems to me a bit of cut off one's nose to spite one's face. If any money is doled out it should go to where it will produce the most bang for the buck. A school that receives a lot of federal government dough is John Hopkins,
With $2.0 billion in federal R&D funding in 2015, Johns Hopkins University is the largest university research partner of the federal government. One of the major centers of innovation on campus is the Applied Physics Laboratory. Established in 1942, the APL has provided the Department of Defense with research in missile defense, space, and weapons systems. The DOD funds 40% of Johns Hopkins annual R&D spending, compared to the 14% average for all universities. NASA funds account for 11% of the school’s R&D expenditure, compared to the 4% average. Among the school's many research accomplishments, Johns Hopkins was responsible for the first spacecraft to land on an asteroid and helped develop the first effective treatment for sickle cell anemia.
The 20 universities getting the most money from the federal government
Not sure what your point is, apropos of the topic.
Let me spell it out to you. Say a university is in the middle of military or health research in which it has invested heavily in research equipment and brought aboard the necessary people having the expertise to pursue the matter. Why risk cancelling the project where it has been conducted and starting from scratch somewhere else over a matter unrelated to that research?
I'm all for promoting free speech but Trump's approach seems to me a bit of cut off one's nose to spite one's face. If any money is doled out it should go to where it will produce the most bang for the buck. A school that receives a lot of federal government dough is John Hopkins,
With $2.0 billion in federal R&D funding in 2015, Johns Hopkins University is the largest university research partner of the federal government. One of the major centers of innovation on campus is the Applied Physics Laboratory. Established in 1942, the APL has provided the Department of Defense with research in missile defense, space, and weapons systems. The DOD funds 40% of Johns Hopkins annual R&D spending, compared to the 14% average for all universities. NASA funds account for 11% of the school’s R&D expenditure, compared to the 4% average. Among the school's many research accomplishments, Johns Hopkins was responsible for the first spacecraft to land on an asteroid and helped develop the first effective treatment for sickle cell anemia.
The 20 universities getting the most money from the federal government
Not sure what your point is, apropos of the topic.
Let me spell it out to you. Say a university is in the middle of military or health research in which it has invested heavily in research equipment and brought aboard the necessary people having the expertise to pursue the matter. Why risk cancelling the project where it has been conducted and starting from scratch somewhere else over a matter unrelated to that research?
Are you sure you are posting on the right thread? What on earth does that have to do with banning certain people from speaking (by leftists alone) on certain university campuses?
I gotta hand it to the rewrite committee over at the Fauxrage machine. Keepin um frothy.
Weren't those Antifa-v-Proud Boys riots in 2017?
The Campus and the Student groups worked out a solution.
Maher had Milo and that other asshole that the assholes at antifa rioted over, on for a decent conversation too. Of course he has Ann on all the time I think......
I'm all for promoting free speech but Trump's approach seems to me a bit of cut off one's nose to spite one's face. If any money is doled out it should go to where it will produce the most bang for the buck. A school that receives a lot of federal government dough is John Hopkins,
With $2.0 billion in federal R&D funding in 2015, Johns Hopkins University is the largest university research partner of the federal government. One of the major centers of innovation on campus is the Applied Physics Laboratory. Established in 1942, the APL has provided the Department of Defense with research in missile defense, space, and weapons systems. The DOD funds 40% of Johns Hopkins annual R&D spending, compared to the 14% average for all universities. NASA funds account for 11% of the school’s R&D expenditure, compared to the 4% average. Among the school's many research accomplishments, Johns Hopkins was responsible for the first spacecraft to land on an asteroid and helped develop the first effective treatment for sickle cell anemia.
The 20 universities getting the most money from the federal government
Not sure what your point is, apropos of the topic.
Let me spell it out to you. Say a university is in the middle of military or health research in which it has invested heavily in research equipment and brought aboard the necessary people having the expertise to pursue the matter. Why risk cancelling the project where it has been conducted and starting from scratch somewhere else over a matter unrelated to that research?
Are you sure you are posting on the right thread? What on earth does that have to do with banning certain people from speaking (by leftists alone) on certain university campuses?
I was asked a question. I answered the question honestly and while no one actually disagreed with what I said, those who replied (yourself) had to go off on some irrelevant vague rant where I had no idea what you were even ranting about.
What exactly did I say that you disagreed with?
Lots, but primarily the implication that the violence from the Left today is in the pursuit of some noble anti-tyranny goal, when it is actually is tyranny.
I never discussed that so try again.
That was the implication I got from your posts about the Founding Fathers using violence, or the blacks using violence to get equal rights, or blah, blah,blah.
If that was not your intent, you suck at communication.
And I have no idea what you were really going on about.
That was clearly a direct answer as to whether or not I support violence. I said at times I do and gave a couple examples.
You are just ate up with it and read what you wanted to read.
You know, ever so often, I ask a lefty to clarify what they said.
And they are like, "I was clear about what I said, why are you being a dick"?
It is because of lefties like you. Your claim that you did not mean what it looked like you meant, is A not credible, and B. if it were true, than your post was either meaningless garbage or completely misleading.
Either way, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Lots, but primarily the implication that the violence from the Left today is in the pursuit of some noble anti-tyranny goal, when it is actually is tyranny.
I never discussed that so try again.
That was the implication I got from your posts about the Founding Fathers using violence, or the blacks using violence to get equal rights, or blah, blah,blah.
If that was not your intent, you suck at communication.
And I have no idea what you were really going on about.
That was clearly a direct answer as to whether or not I support violence. I said at times I do and gave a couple examples.
You are just ate up with it and read what you wanted to read.
You know, ever so often, I ask a lefty to clarify what they said.
And they are like, "I was clear about what I said, why are you being a dick"?
It is because of lefties like you. Your claim that you did not mean what it looked like you meant, is A not credible, and B. if it were true, than your post was either meaningless garbage or completely misleading.
Either way, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
No, what I said was absolutely what I meant.
"we" weren't the ones who made it an issue.And we suddenly all figured out where to pee, too.
Why y’all so obsessed with that?
Bullshit! Conservatives are the ones passing laws about it.
Yeah, yeah. The fight wasn't started when you upended society, it started when conservatives were "horrible" enough to fight back. How dare they!
No one was upending society. Just people making decisions for themselves which conservatives (small government supposedly) decided was unacceptable and therefore requires government authority to tell people what to do.
I gotta hand it to the rewrite committee over at the Fauxrage machine. Keepin um frothy.
Weren't those Antifa-v-Proud Boys riots in 2017?
The Campus and the Student groups worked out a solution.
Maher had Milo and that other asshole that the assholes at antifa rioted over, on for a decent conversation too. Of course he has Ann on all the time I think......
If by "vs" you mean the Proud Boys marched, the Antifa attacked and the Proud BOys defended themselves, yes.
And I don't know what you mean by "worked out a solution".
Not a straw man at all. White supremacists groups exist on campuses and do make this type of demand.Which, in objective topics, is not a matter of opinion. Politics are different than academics c, rigorous topics.What you consider far from the norm may not be what someone else considers far from the norm.
Second, even with politics: if MLK speaks, then the grand wizard of the KKK must also be paid to speak? Fuck that.
Strawman.
Join us in reality, Chris.
So? Nobody is forced to attend. Nobody is forced to agree. Nobody is harmed by listening to other points of view.
"Nobody is harmed by listening to other points of view."
tell THAT to the Jews.....
if your point of view is "liberals are the ENEMY! they hate GOD and YOU and America! they are TRAITORS and should be dealt with as TRAITORS"
somebody could certainly get hurt.
I gotta hand it to the rewrite committee over at the Fauxrage machine. Keepin um frothy.
Weren't those Antifa-v-Proud Boys riots in 2017?
The Campus and the Student groups worked out a solution.
Maher had Milo and that other asshole that the assholes at antifa rioted over, on for a decent conversation too. Of course he has Ann on all the time I think......
If by "vs" you mean the Proud Boys marched, the Antifa attacked and the Proud BOys defended themselves, yes.
And I don't know what you mean by "worked out a solution".
When was the last riot?
Colleges aren’t going to back science deniers or white supremacists.Trump orders colleges to back free speech or lose funding
President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday requiring U.S. colleges to protect free speech on their campuses or risk losing federal research funding.
The new order directs federal agencies to ensure that any college or university receiving research grants agrees to promote free speech and the exchange of ideas, and to follow federal rules guiding free expression.
“Even as universities have received billions and billions of dollars from taxpayers, many have become increasingly hostile to free speech and to the First Amendment,” Trump said at a White House signing ceremony. “These universities have tried to restrict free thought, impose total conformity and shut down the voices of great young Americans.”
---
see link for the rest of the story.
but good. if they're not going to allow both sides equal time, then no $ for you.
Colleges aren’t going to back science deniers or white supremacists.Trump orders colleges to back free speech or lose funding
President Donald Trump signed an executive order Thursday requiring U.S. colleges to protect free speech on their campuses or risk losing federal research funding.
The new order directs federal agencies to ensure that any college or university receiving research grants agrees to promote free speech and the exchange of ideas, and to follow federal rules guiding free expression.
“Even as universities have received billions and billions of dollars from taxpayers, many have become increasingly hostile to free speech and to the First Amendment,” Trump said at a White House signing ceremony. “These universities have tried to restrict free thought, impose total conformity and shut down the voices of great young Americans.”
---
see link for the rest of the story.
but good. if they're not going to allow both sides equal time, then no $ for you.
you and Donald need to stfu
I never discussed that so try again.
That was the implication I got from your posts about the Founding Fathers using violence, or the blacks using violence to get equal rights, or blah, blah,blah.
If that was not your intent, you suck at communication.
And I have no idea what you were really going on about.
That was clearly a direct answer as to whether or not I support violence. I said at times I do and gave a couple examples.
You are just ate up with it and read what you wanted to read.
You know, ever so often, I ask a lefty to clarify what they said.
And they are like, "I was clear about what I said, why are you being a dick"?
It is because of lefties like you. Your claim that you did not mean what it looked like you meant, is A not credible, and B. if it were true, than your post was either meaningless garbage or completely misleading.
Either way, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
No, what I said was absolutely what I meant.
And then you argued it, for several pages, until suddenly realizing that we were discussing it wrong, and you decided to walk it back.
EIther way, your behavior was dick like.
That was the implication I got from your posts about the Founding Fathers using violence, or the blacks using violence to get equal rights, or blah, blah,blah.
If that was not your intent, you suck at communication.
And I have no idea what you were really going on about.
That was clearly a direct answer as to whether or not I support violence. I said at times I do and gave a couple examples.
You are just ate up with it and read what you wanted to read.
You know, ever so often, I ask a lefty to clarify what they said.
And they are like, "I was clear about what I said, why are you being a dick"?
It is because of lefties like you. Your claim that you did not mean what it looked like you meant, is A not credible, and B. if it were true, than your post was either meaningless garbage or completely misleading.
Either way, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
No, what I said was absolutely what I meant.
And then you argued it, for several pages, until suddenly realizing that we were discussing it wrong, and you decided to walk it back.
EIther way, your behavior was dick like.
Argue what? What exactly did I argue? Please provide quotes to what you are accusing me of doing.
