Trump supporters like the attitude

[Iceweasel]

Trump supporters are anarchists who only praise the Constitution when it supports their agenda.

You mean obama. You got confused with all the big words.

 

[Liminal]

Trump is nothing compared to Hillary. She let four men die with no backup. She let her husband prey on women unabated. She kept 2000+ classified emails on her server and deleted them, with 22 of them being too sensitive to declassify.

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

 

[Liminal]

Trump is nothing compared to Hillary. She let four men die with no backup. She let her husband prey on women unabated. She kept 2000+ classified emails on her server and deleted them, with 22 of them being too sensitive to declassify.

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

You're a lib. Therefore, you are a braindead government leech and your posts don't count.

You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.

That's a helluva rebuttal there, buttface.

Just trying to keep it on a level you can understand.

 

[Correll]

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

I've been quite eloquent with you.

You just choose to lie about it.

So.

 

[Iceweasel]

He's makes fun of women, people with birth defects, calls Mexicans rapists, and is a disgusting human being. That appeals to some people

Just like lying and mischaracterization appeals to liberals. I find that far more disgusting. He made fun of some women, who deserve it, but it wasn't due to their gender. He referred to illegals and you say Mexicans. Which proves you are racist. And Hillary barking like a dog to mimic the right doesn't bother you so you're a hypocrite as well.

 

[Liminal]

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

I've been quite eloquent with you.

You just choose to lie about it.

So.

Eloquent might be kind of stretch, but you are very persistent in avoiding the question. You've made all kinds of contortions around it. But you've failed completely to explain why you believe Trump.

 

[Correll]

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

I've been quite eloquent with you.

You just choose to lie about it.

So.

Eloquent might be kind of stretch, but you are very persistent in avoiding the question. You've made all kinds of contortions around it. But you've failed completely to explain why you believe Trump.

Nope.

Clearly and simply explained my reasons, and you, being a lying asshole pretended that I did not.

 

[Liminal]

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

I've been quite eloquent with you.

You just choose to lie about it.

So.

Eloquent might be kind of stretch, but you are very persistent in avoiding the question. You've made all kinds of contortions around it. But you've failed completely to explain why you believe Trump.

Nope.

Clearly and simply explained my reasons, and you, being a lying asshole pretended that I did not.

That's what you keep saying without ever actually explaining anything.

 

[Claudette]

Are Trump supporters true ideologues? Why do they flock to Trump?

When the Tea Party movement began seven years ago, they proclaimed themselves to be dyed in the wool Conservatives, dedicated to the orthodoxy of Conservative values. Smaller government, tax cuts across the board (except for the poor who would receive a radical tax hike), a reduction, if not end, to entitlement programs and a fervent defense of social issues like abortion and Gay marriage.

All these positions are in Ted Cruz's back pocket.

Why hasn't Cruz benefitted from massive Tea Party support? And, more interestingly, why has Donald Trump?

Are the Trump supporters enthralled by Trump's policies, or his swagger, his attitude, his anger and his bite?

Are those the qualities Trump supporters admire? Are Trump's policies sufficiently Conservative to pass muster with the Tea Party?

Has the right wing abandoned its political purity test, a test they used against Republican incumbents as they 'primaries' so many of them out of office? Or are they in love with the tough talk? So much in love to forget their own principles?

Style or substance? It seems to me, at least, that the political ethos of the Tea Party can be left on the stoop so long as a strutting, pompous, boorish thug is running as a Republican, no matter what his policies might be.

Many Americans don't want real people running the country. They want saints. Its not enough for a guy to be really good at what he does he has to keep his dick in his pants and be careful about how much he pays for a haircut or make sure he goes to the right church.

Hell if Jesus were the POTUS people would bitch about him turning water into wine, it should've been grape juice and it had damn well better be grape juice made from grapes grown organically in California.

Of course some people want a real person and I think that's why Trump is so popular. He's a real person and he acts like it.

He's not some stuffed shirt or pc idiot. He has real appeal.

 

[Liminal]

Are Trump supporters true ideologues? Why do they flock to Trump?

When the Tea Party movement began seven years ago, they proclaimed themselves to be dyed in the wool Conservatives, dedicated to the orthodoxy of Conservative values. Smaller government, tax cuts across the board (except for the poor who would receive a radical tax hike), a reduction, if not end, to entitlement programs and a fervent defense of social issues like abortion and Gay marriage.

All these positions are in Ted Cruz's back pocket.

Why hasn't Cruz benefitted from massive Tea Party support? And, more interestingly, why has Donald Trump?

Are the Trump supporters enthralled by Trump's policies, or his swagger, his attitude, his anger and his bite?

Are those the qualities Trump supporters admire? Are Trump's policies sufficiently Conservative to pass muster with the Tea Party?

Has the right wing abandoned its political purity test, a test they used against Republican incumbents as they 'primaries' so many of them out of office? Or are they in love with the tough talk? So much in love to forget their own principles?

Style or substance? It seems to me, at least, that the political ethos of the Tea Party can be left on the stoop so long as a strutting, pompous, boorish thug is running as a Republican, no matter what his policies might be.

Many Americans don't want real people running the country. They want saints. Its not enough for a guy to be really good at what he does he has to keep his dick in his pants and be careful about how much he pays for a haircut or make sure he goes to the right church.

Hell if Jesus were the POTUS people would bitch about him turning water into wine, it should've been grape juice and it had damn well better be grape juice made from grapes grown organically in California.

Of course some people want a real person and I think that's why Trump is so popular. He's a real person and he acts like it.

He's not some stuffed shirt or pc idiot. He has real appeal.

Trump has plenty of appeal on a primal emotional level, no thinking required.

 

[Nosmo King]

Trump is nothing compared to Hillary. She let four men die with no backup. She let her husband prey on women unabated. She kept 2000+ classified emails on her server and deleted them, with 22 of them being too sensitive to declassify.

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

No. They cant. But then again, no one was able to explain why they belied then Senator Obama. People supported him because they wanted to believe him.

It is what it is.

But this time around, you want to attack those that are doing what you did 8 years ago.

I think it's important to note that there was no political purge, no ideological insurgency among the Democrats.

Conservative purists called the Tea Party began a civil war in the GOP and purged many main stream Republicans from the ranks.

Did the Tea Party remain ideological purists, or did the bluster and vulgarity of Trump make them check their orthodoxy at the door?

 

[Jarhead]

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

No. They cant. But then again, no one was able to explain why they belied then Senator Obama. People supported him because they wanted to believe him.

It is what it is.

But this time around, you want to attack those that are doing what you did 8 years ago.

So then that's the standard you prefer to live down to. Now I'm beginning to see the possibilities for fundamental change with Trump.

Excuse me. I dont wish to live down to any standard. To the contrary, I am quite happy with the standards I have set for my life.

But I am a realist and I am not like you....I am not looking to poke holes in reality to prove it is wrong.

Here is reality......politicians make promises. If one likes the promise, one supports the promiser unless the promiser is proven to be a liar....although even then, people tend to believe.

Obama promised to change the way things are done in Washington. People believed him yet no one asked him how he plans to do it. He lied to them about public financing but people believed him anyway. He had a state and US senate record of pure partisanship but he promised to work in a bi partisan way and people believed him.

Why?

Because that is human nature. People believe what they want to believe.

You want to criticize me for recognizing human nature, go for it. But looking at your posts, you seem to have a lot of hatred and, to be quite frank, you seem quite miserable.

Me?

I am happy....and what other people believe has very little affect on my life.

 

[Jarhead]

The questio9n is not who is better or who is worse. The question is about the ideology of Trump supporters. Whether those supporters are the same ideologically pure Tea Party types who caused a rift in the GOP or those supporters simply are attracted to the style of Donald Trump.

The Tea Party began a purge of what they saw as RINOS and drove many incumbent Republicans out of their seats through the primary process. Are these the same rock ribbed ideologues now in Trump's camp? If so, why did their firm belief in Tea Party values get tossed aside for the likes of Trump?

Were those values so dear, or are they expendable if offered a tough talking, vulgar man such as Donald Trump?

Ever notice how not even one Trump follower can explain why they believe Trump? They have no idea, they just know that they do.

to the contrary, I have seen on the news interviews with Trump supporters who make it quite clear as to why they support him.

Ironically, I rarely hear anyone give a good reason to support Hillary. They all same the same thing..

Q: Why do you support her
A: Because she is so accomplished

Q: What has she accomplished?
A: She was Secretary of State.

Q: How is that an accomplishment?
A: It take a special person to succeed as Secretary of State

Q: How do you define her success as Secretary of State?
A: How do you define the success of any Secretary of State.

Q: So if you can not define her as successful as Secretary of State, how do you know she was successful?
A: It is obvious. She travelled more than any Secretary of State in history

Q: How does that equate to success?
A: What are you, a Fox News reporter?

But they just can't seem to explain why they believe him.

No. They cant. But then again, no one was able to explain why they belied then Senator Obama. People supported him because they wanted to believe him.

It is what it is.

But this time around, you want to attack those that are doing what you did 8 years ago.

I think it's important to note that there was no political purge, no ideological insurgency among the Democrats.

Conservative purists called the Tea Party began a civil war in the GOP and purged many main stream Republicans from the ranks.

Did the Tea Party remain ideological purists, or did the bluster and vulgarity of Trump make them check their orthodoxy at the door?

Really?

You don't see supporters of Sanders an ideological insurgency?

The tea party was a movement during an election cycle. Just as Trump supporters and Sanders supporters during this election cycle.

Here is the reality and anyone who really cares to understand the reality, already knows the reality....

Less than 40% of GOPers are for Trump......about 35% of the electorate are GOPers.....which means about 14% of the people see something in trump. Same holds true for Sanders.....numbers almost identical....and the same held true for the tea party.

They are all minority movements.

The reason it stands out with Trump is the fact that the GOP was so divided, it started with 17 candidates....and when you have that many candidates, the one who has 35% supporting him/her will be at the top

It really is not rocket science.

 

[bendog]

Are Trump supporters true ideologues? Why do they flock to Trump?

When the Tea Party movement began seven years ago, they proclaimed themselves to be dyed in the wool Conservatives, dedicated to the orthodoxy of Conservative values. Smaller government, tax cuts across the board (except for the poor who would receive a radical tax hike), a reduction, if not end, to entitlement programs and a fervent defense of social issues like abortion and Gay marriage.

All these positions are in Ted Cruz's back pocket.

Why hasn't Cruz benefitted from massive Tea Party support? And, more interestingly, why has Donald Trump?

Are the Trump supporters enthralled by Trump's policies, or his swagger, his attitude, his anger and his bite?

Are those the qualities Trump supporters admire? Are Trump's policies sufficiently Conservative to pass muster with the Tea Party?

Has the right wing abandoned its political purity test, a test they used against Republican incumbents as they 'primaries' so many of them out of office? Or are they in love with the tough talk? So much in love to forget their own principles?

Style or substance? It seems to me, at least, that the political ethos of the Tea Party can be left on the stoop so long as a strutting, pompous, boorish thug is running as a Republican, no matter what his policies might be.

No offense, but I don't think there's any connection between the Tea Party and Trump. There does seem to be something to evangelicals voting for Trump and not Cruz (or even Rubio who questions how old the earth is)

 

[Indeependent]

He's makes fun of women, people with birth defects, calls Mexicans rapists, and is a disgusting human being. That appeals to some people

Being employed also appeals to some people.

The Dems have proposed college for all Americans and being able to restructure your student debt. That will unlock positions for people. Fact.

What had Trump proposed?

The ONLY Pro-American candidate is Sanders.
Hillary makes her living from giving speeches to Goldman-Sachs, so I don't believe anything she says.

 

[Jarhead]

He's makes fun of women, people with birth defects, calls Mexicans rapists, and is a disgusting human being. That appeals to some people

Being employed also appeals to some people.

The Dems have proposed college for all Americans and being able to restructure your student debt. That will unlock positions for people. Fact.

What had Trump proposed?

The ONLY Pro-American candidate is Sanders.
Hillary makes her living from giving speeches to Goldman-Sachs, so I don't believe anything she says.

I see why you think Hillary may allow her greed to trump over her acting in the best interest of America.
I see why you think Trump may allow his desire for personal gain to be more important to him than the best interest of America.

I don't necessarily agree with you as it pertains to both...but I can understand why you may think that.

However......

Why do you see Kasich or Cruz as not being pro American?

 

[Indeependent]

He's makes fun of women, people with birth defects, calls Mexicans rapists, and is a disgusting human being. That appeals to some people

Being employed also appeals to some people.

The Dems have proposed college for all Americans and being able to restructure your student debt. That will unlock positions for people. Fact.

What had Trump proposed?

The ONLY Pro-American candidate is Sanders.
Hillary makes her living from giving speeches to Goldman-Sachs, so I don't believe anything she says.

I see why you think Hillary may allow her greed to trump over her acting in the best interest of America.
I see why you think Trump may allow his desire for personal gain to be more important to him than the best interest of America.

I don't necessarily agree with you as it pertains to both...but I can understand why you may think that.

However......

Why do you see Kasich or Cruz as not being pro American?

Trump talks Pro-America without having to be prompted to do so.
Cruz and Kasich are non-Ricardian Free Market f'ers.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are Trump supporters true ideologues? Why do they flock to Trump?

When the Tea Party movement began seven years ago, they proclaimed themselves to be dyed in the wool Conservatives, dedicated to the orthodoxy of Conservative values. Smaller government, tax cuts across the board (except for the poor who would receive a radical tax hike), a reduction, if not end, to entitlement programs and a fervent defense of social issues like abortion and Gay marriage.

All these positions are in Ted Cruz's back pocket.

Why hasn't Cruz benefitted from massive Tea Party support? And, more interestingly, why has Donald Trump?

Are the Trump supporters enthralled by Trump's policies, or his swagger, his attitude, his anger and his bite?

Are those the qualities Trump supporters admire? Are Trump's policies sufficiently Conservative to pass muster with the Tea Party?

Has the right wing abandoned its political purity test, a test they used against Republican incumbents as they 'primaries' so many of them out of office? Or are they in love with the tough talk? So much in love to forget their own principles?

Style or substance? It seems to me, at least, that the political ethos of the Tea Party can be left on the stoop so long as a strutting, pompous, boorish thug is running as a Republican, no matter what his policies might be.

Trump is the Great Divider, that is what is attracting a large contingent of the Right.

 

[Indeependent]

Are Trump supporters true ideologues? Why do they flock to Trump?

When the Tea Party movement began seven years ago, they proclaimed themselves to be dyed in the wool Conservatives, dedicated to the orthodoxy of Conservative values. Smaller government, tax cuts across the board (except for the poor who would receive a radical tax hike), a reduction, if not end, to entitlement programs and a fervent defense of social issues like abortion and Gay marriage.

All these positions are in Ted Cruz's back pocket.

Why hasn't Cruz benefitted from massive Tea Party support? And, more interestingly, why has Donald Trump?

Are the Trump supporters enthralled by Trump's policies, or his swagger, his attitude, his anger and his bite?

Are those the qualities Trump supporters admire? Are Trump's policies sufficiently Conservative to pass muster with the Tea Party?

Has the right wing abandoned its political purity test, a test they used against Republican incumbents as they 'primaries' so many of them out of office? Or are they in love with the tough talk? So much in love to forget their own principles?

Style or substance? It seems to me, at least, that the political ethos of the Tea Party can be left on the stoop so long as a strutting, pompous, boorish thug is running as a Republican, no matter what his policies might be.

Trump is the Great Divider, that is what is attracting a large contingent of the Right.

It shouldn't bother you as you are convinced he can't possibly win.

 

[Correll]

One of Trump's most eloquent spokesmen.

I've been quite eloquent with you.

You just choose to lie about it.

So.

Eloquent might be kind of stretch, but you are very persistent in avoiding the question. You've made all kinds of contortions around it. But you've failed completely to explain why you believe Trump.

Nope.

Clearly and simply explained my reasons, and you, being a lying asshole pretended that I did not.

That's what you keep saying without ever actually explaining anything.