Trump to sign order keeping meat processing plants open

After deaths of workers in the JBS meat plant in Colorado, they started testing their 6000 workers, starting with their management and supervisors. When they found that 40% of just the management staff was positive with the virus, they stopped all testing. They didn't want to know, otherwise they would have to shut down. They rather have their workers die and spread the virus throughout the country, as long as they make money.
Hmmm..I gotta tell ya.. you're off base a bit...The JBS meat plant in Greeley did shut down after an outbreak..it's still shut down afaik--and there are some hard questions to ask the management..about pressuring workers to work..but that's pretty normal in that world.

But there was no cover up....and every plant worker was tested..every one....I'd welcome a link substantiating the 40% infected rate


False. They did not test everyone. They stopped. And they will reopen this week.
precisely, once they tested management and found 40% of management infected, they stopped and did not test all the line workers, as they said they would..... but many with symptoms went in to town and were able to be tested and over 900 of them and some of their spouses, tested positive FROM the one plant....and who knows how many are asymptomatic??

where in the heck is OSHA?

Why didn't the plant put in safety measures for worker protection? 6 ft spread, plexiglass barriers between workers, tents for makeshift cafeterias separating them or eat outside rules so a thousand are not in the cafeteria at once.... supply the daily protective gear, test test and test, to send positive COVID workers home?

Why didn't they do it a month ago? I think they are up to 6 COVID deaths of their workers thru today.... :(

I sure as heck would not want any of my family members working there....!!!!! :eek-52:
 
Is it hypocritical to support Trump's new order that these meat processing businesses stay operational while at the same time protesting the large number of other elected governors, judges, mayors, and city council members around the country ordering so many draconian measures to keep coronavirus under control with many of those orders and mandates having questionable legality or constitutionality? If those questionable mandates using questionable authority from state level politicians are concerning for so many people then shouldn't mandates from the federal government, in this case the executive branch, be a cause for concern as well?
Meat is important to the US economy; it is not essential to anyone's diet unless an MD says so.
 
Trump has done well in responding to the Wu Flu; his decision TODAY to declare meat processing facilities essential AND ordering them to stay open may damn well prevent the supply chain from being irreparably damaged!

we are already looking at inflation, rising energy costs and food costs -- keeping production open as much as possible is a big step for the safety, security and well being of the country

and yes, Trump is allocating safety equipment for the industry! We were looking at possible food shortages; this was a great move by the President today

Trump to sign order keeping meat processing plants open

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Tuesday meant to stave off a shortage of chicken, pork and other meat on American supermarket shelves because of the coronavirus.

The order will use the Defense Production Act to classify meat processing as critical infrastructure to keep production plants open.

The order comes after industry leaders warned that consumers could see meat shortages in a matter of days after workers at major facilities tested positive for the virus. A senior White House official said the administration was working to prevent a situation in which a majority of processing plants shut down for a period of time, which could lead to an 80% drop in the availability of meat in supermarkets. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the order before its release.

Sure. Nothing like completely botching the response to the virus, touting miracle cures, and then ultimately demanding that people who work shoulder to shoulder in some of those plants be forced back to work. All in an effort to save your worthless presidency so some Trump supporter can get their frozen chicken nuggets. WTF.

You never worked a day in your life have you?

Meat Packing Plants can not shutdown and more than Chicken Nuggets are made at these places.

I am lucky that I live in Texas and we have places to get freshly made sausages, farmed raised chicken, goat meat, lamb meat and beef but I bet you are upset at this...

Trump is doing the correct course of action and you thinking it is wrong until the minority communities have no food on their shelves then you would have been screaming he should have done something...
I can't stand Jack!
Jack is correct in terms of working conditions and health risk.

Not all plants are like that and I have worked in some.

Chicken plants are bad but pork not so much...

Depends on the State and Region...
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.


What if they don't stay open...What will the blob do?
 
Is it hypocritical to support Trump's new order that these meat processing businesses stay operational while at the same time protesting the large number of other elected governors, judges, mayors, and city council members around the country ordering so many draconian measures to keep coronavirus under control with many of those orders and mandates having questionable legality or constitutionality? If those questionable mandates using questionable authority from state level politicians are concerning for so many people then shouldn't mandates from the federal government, in this case the executive branch, be a cause for concern as well?
Meat is important to the US economy; it is not essential to anyone's diet unless an MD says so.

I agree the industry is important to the economy but I guess my point is that should a mandate, from in this example the executive branch, to force a private business to be open any less draconian than forcing other private businesses to close? And if you disagree with an elected state official making such orders then wouldn't it be hypocritical to support the president's office doing something similar but just it being forced open instead of forced closed? I'm just thinking out loud but to me personally it seems questionable.
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.

What exactly do you think Trump's motive is for this executive order? Is it reckless? Yes. Sounds to me someone is in such denial that it's ok to put workers in harms way. Those meat packers and plants are virus hot spots. How about being a meat eater. Glad to hell I'm not.
 
Is it hypocritical to support Trump's new order that these meat processing businesses stay operational while at the same time protesting the large number of other elected governors, judges, mayors, and city council members around the country ordering so many draconian measures to keep coronavirus under control with many of those orders and mandates having questionable legality or constitutionality? If those questionable mandates using questionable authority from state level politicians are concerning for so many people then shouldn't mandates from the federal government, in this case the executive branch, be a cause for concern as well?
Meat is important to the US economy; it is not essential to anyone's diet unless an MD says so.

I agree the industry is important to the economy but I guess my point is that should a mandate, from in this example the executive branch, to force a private business to be open any less draconian than forcing other private businesses to close? And if you disagree with an elected state official making such orders then wouldn't it be hypocritical to support the president's office doing something similar but just it being forced open instead of forced closed? I'm just thinking out loud but to me personally it seems questionable.
I only know about meat plants because I know people who work for Kosher food organizations.
I don't know who suggested this mandate.
I don't know if the person/persons explained the risk(s).
One issue may be the entire cycle of the Food industry collapsing.
The workers, however, will be at great risk, so they will have to be young, healthy and have no underlying health issues; how the last is determined is out of my league.
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.


That's right, witch . . . people need to eat. Please run full tilt into the nearest brick wall. A cure for all bullshit viruses.
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.


What if they don't stay open...What will the blob do?
He will probably have the current workforce laid off until the C19 threat is gone...In the year 2700?
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.

I know I like my thin slice pork chops so they can eat shit...I WANT MY GD PORK CHOPS!
 
Donald Trump has just told 500,000 blue collar workers in meat packing plants, their lives don't matter. Meat packing plants which are sites of some of the largest covid19 clusters in the country, have been ordered to stay open, so as not to disrupt the food chain.

The CDC has issued new guidelines to these plants on keeping workers safe, but rather than requiring Tyson Foods, and other big Republican donors to ensure their workers' safety, but the directive was issued as suggestions, where feasible.

Every time in this virus that Donald Trump has made a decision, it's been the wrong one.

I know I like my thin slice pork chops so they can eat shit...I WANT MY GD PORK CHOPS!
Finally! An honest post!
 
Trump has done well in responding to the Wu Flu; his decision TODAY to declare meat processing facilities essential AND ordering them to stay open may damn well prevent the supply chain from being irreparably damaged!

we are already looking at inflation, rising energy costs and food costs -- keeping production open as much as possible is a big step for the safety, security and well being of the country

and yes, Trump is allocating safety equipment for the industry! We were looking at possible food shortages; this was a great move by the President today

Trump to sign order keeping meat processing plants open

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Tuesday meant to stave off a shortage of chicken, pork and other meat on American supermarket shelves because of the coronavirus.

The order will use the Defense Production Act to classify meat processing as critical infrastructure to keep production plants open.

The order comes after industry leaders warned that consumers could see meat shortages in a matter of days after workers at major facilities tested positive for the virus. A senior White House official said the administration was working to prevent a situation in which a majority of processing plants shut down for a period of time, which could lead to an 80% drop in the availability of meat in supermarkets. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the order before its release.
The food supply chain is breaking and Trump said a week ago it was secure. He's a liar, and so are you. This is disgraceful. How can you be so fucking low? Covering for this sob when a few months ago he was calling it a hoax. Fuck you, you lying pos.https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/trump-to-sign-executive-order-keeping-meat-processing-plants-open-82710085658

Folks like you are traitors. You post up gd lies for this lying scumbag Trump, to cover for his gigantic failures on a daily basis. Get the fuck out of here with your bs.

You would watch the country go down in flames if it meant Trump going down with it. You place politics above anything else. The world will be a better place when you are six feet under and room temperature.
Trump has already killed 57,000 Americans in this country who already went down because of him. We are watching the country go down as we speak because of him, right this minute. Having me dead, only relieves you of having to hear the truth, you never wanted to hear.

Trump didn't kill anyone. Trump Trump Trump that's all fucking losers like you bitch about.

So by that metric how many did Cuomo and DiBlasio kill?
 
Is it hypocritical to support Trump's new order that these meat processing businesses stay operational while at the same time protesting the large number of other elected governors, judges, mayors, and city council members around the country ordering so many draconian measures to keep coronavirus under control with many of those orders and mandates having questionable legality or constitutionality? If those questionable mandates using questionable authority from state level politicians are concerning for so many people then shouldn't mandates from the federal government, in this case the executive branch, be a cause for concern as well?

No it isn’t. You like to eat don’t you? His executive order essentially identifies these plants as critical infrastructure like a power plant or water treatment facility.
 
Trump has done well in responding to the Wu Flu; his decision TODAY to declare meat processing facilities essential AND ordering them to stay open may damn well prevent the supply chain from being irreparably damaged!

we are already looking at inflation, rising energy costs and food costs -- keeping production open as much as possible is a big step for the safety, security and well being of the country

and yes, Trump is allocating safety equipment for the industry! We were looking at possible food shortages; this was a great move by the President today

Trump to sign order keeping meat processing plants open

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Tuesday meant to stave off a shortage of chicken, pork and other meat on American supermarket shelves because of the coronavirus.

The order will use the Defense Production Act to classify meat processing as critical infrastructure to keep production plants open.

The order comes after industry leaders warned that consumers could see meat shortages in a matter of days after workers at major facilities tested positive for the virus. A senior White House official said the administration was working to prevent a situation in which a majority of processing plants shut down for a period of time, which could lead to an 80% drop in the availability of meat in supermarkets. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the order before its release.
The food supply chain is breaking and Trump said a week ago it was secure. He's a liar, and so are you. This is disgraceful. How can you be so fucking low? Covering for this sob when a few months ago he was calling it a hoax. Fuck you, you lying pos.https://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/trump-to-sign-executive-order-keeping-meat-processing-plants-open-82710085658

Folks like you are traitors. You post up gd lies for this lying scumbag Trump, to cover for his gigantic failures on a daily basis. Get the fuck out of here with your bs.

You would watch the country go down in flames if it meant Trump going down with it. You place politics above anything else. The world will be a better place when you are six feet under and room temperature.
Trump has already killed 57,000 Americans in this country who already went down because of him. We are watching the country go down as we speak because of him, right this minute. Having me dead, only relieves you of having to hear the truth, you never wanted to hear.

Trump didn't kill anyone. Trump Trump Trump that's all fucking losers like you bitch about.

So by that metric how many did Cuomo and DiBlasio kill?

every death due to this virus can be laid at the feet of the Chinese Communist Party.
 
I'm curious what the details of this are. If the plants are being shut down because of workers contracting the virus (I seem to remember one of the Smithfield plants accounted for around half the cases of the state it was located in when it was closed), what will be the requirements for keeping it open?

I was wondering the same thing. This is the kind of thing we have the National Guard for and I imagine the military can be used. That's what I suspect is the purpose behind using the DPA.
Was trained to do a lot in the military, but never how to cut up a steer in a commercial meat packing plant.
 
I do not know if Trump has any political motivation in this order or not. Can't say if ordering it is correct move. It very well may be. I do believe it is within his power to order the packing plants to keep their doors open and processing at what ever level they have the manpower willing to work to produce.
He obviously cannot force sick workers to work or force workers afraid to go to work, to go anyway. These workers are not military. He cannot order them into action. Somebody mentioned this is what the active military or national guard can be used for. Doubt it, as I said, they are not trained for this. Hopefully a monetary deal can be made that appeals to the workers to bribe them to do what may seem to be or what may actually be dangerous duty. Anyway you slice it, I expect the price of meat to rise significantly.
I don't know about you, but we will be stocking up. If I find it to be necessary, I will have a steer slaughtered and packed locally for the freezer, as it won't be the first time. If you don't have one, it may be time to be checking on a deep freeze.
 
After deaths of workers in the JBS meat plant in Colorado, they started testing their 6000 workers, starting with their management and supervisors. When they found that 40% of just the management staff was positive with the virus, they stopped all testing. They didn't want to know, otherwise they would have to shut down. They rather have their workers die and spread the virus throughout the country, as long as they make money.
Hmmm..I gotta tell ya.. you're off base a bit...The JBS meat plant in Greeley did shut down after an outbreak..it's still shut down afaik--and there are some hard questions to ask the management..about pressuring workers to work..but that's pretty normal in that world.

But there was no cover up....and every plant worker was tested..every one....I'd welcome a link substantiating the 40% infected rate


False. They did not test everyone. They stopped. And they will reopen this week.
Indeed, not everyone is tested--my bad for assuming that they followed through....plant is reopening with screening and free tests for anyone who reports any symptoms..or has a fever. Company is increasing pay by $4.00 an hour and giving every worker $600. Basically..ask for a test and you get one. I agree that every American should be tested--to get the asymptomatic carriers. I'll point out that most food factories have remained open..and that most food factories have had close to zero issues.

JBS is looking more than a little scandalous----They promised tests...as did VP Pence.


 

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