Mr Natural
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And yet there are still dumbasses over 65 who’ll vote for republicans at the national level.
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Makes no sense. Please if we are to debate, you must learn to make logical arguments.Oh, for sure. Tell me where you bought your tin foil hat.Lol. You think our military is defending us. You’re terribly naive. The Empire is an imperialist one. It is all about protecting the interests of the billionaires.The fact you don't know that National Defense is Constitutional means you're dumber than an empty box of Raisin Bran.You must have an IQ of a gnat.National defense is Constitutional, Idiot.Lol. You don’t know me. No one is more anti abortion than me, numb nuts.You're stupid beyond reason. You support government funded murder through abortion, you glittering hypocritical moonbat.How convenient? Cite the Constitution, which the government regularly ignores and violates, to protect the massive unjust funding of the murderous military industrial complex.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
Damn! That’s nuts!
You dumb wingers think everyone is either a dumb con like you, or a dumb lib. Don’t be dumb.
Wake up son.
Typical duped American.Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
It’s imperialism and it’s designed to benefit the ultra wealthy. More socialism for them, while the rest of us need to pull up our boot straps.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
What a stupid, ridiculous, idiotic argument...Probably a more stupid, ridiculous, and idiotic argument than any moronic moonbat will make this week in any context.Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
So what shithole do you live in?Typical duped American.Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
Moron.So what shithole do you live in?Typical duped American.Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.
Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.
Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.
Oh, and....
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Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
Oddball: SS is a terrible investment
Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...
LOL, what a dumbassIt's simple but apparently above your paygrade.Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
Oddball: SS is a terrible investment
Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...
LOL, what a dumbass
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.
That fact renders OB's post irrelevant.
So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement
Not at all, dope.So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement
Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.
Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.
Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.
Oh, and....
View attachment 374658
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".
The strawman is yours.Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"
It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.
Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.
Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.
Oh, and....
View attachment 374658
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".The strawman is yours.Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.
Pusillanimous putrid punk.Moron.So what shithole do you live in?Typical duped American.Oh, for sure. Let's just send flowers and candy to Russia and China so they'll love us, huh.Troops in over 130 nations isn't national defense, it's international military meddling and hegemony.National defense is a Constitutional requirement. Government healthcare, housing, food, etc, isn't.Somehow funding for the war machine never goes bankrupt.These are the kinds of silly, unrealistic ideas that might enable Biden to win the election. Of course we are not going to abolish the payroll tax. How would we fund Social Security?
Unless they are "fixed" Medicare will be bankrupt in 2026, and Social Security "insolvent" in 2037, paying only 92% of promised benefits. Those assumptions are based on current payroll tax rates.
In the debates, someone needs to ask Trump and Biden WTF they would do to "fix" SS and Medicare before they go bankrupt.
It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.
Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.
Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.
Oh, and....
View attachment 374658
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment".The strawman is yours.Pretty piss poor diversionary strawman argument.
Fact remains that SS is a totally shit "investment"
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.
So go suck a bag of dicks, peckerhead.
Nice pivot to the new strawman. Good job.It was alleged that it would keep seniors out of poverty in their later years, and it can't even do that.
So go suck a bag of dicks, peckerhead
He just wants to control the debate. Progs are going to double the taxes on the working people.All the more reason to vote Trump out of office this November.
More of Trump and his supporters being reckless and irresponsible.
No one is forcing you to rely soley on SS. It's a guaranteed basic income only. You can have as many accounts as you can fund.Social Insecurity gives no better than a 1% ROI....If you add in inflation, that's no better an "investment" than stuffing cash into mason jars and burying them in the back yard....Go piss up a rope.Conservatives, of course, will attempt to advance the lie that absent a payroll tax, workers will have ‘more money’ to save for retirement.
Such dishonest sophistry is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Most working Americans live from paycheck to paycheck – the consequence of wages which have remained stagnant for decades. The meager funds not subject to a payroll tax are nowhere near enough to save for retirement, and will likely be used for emergencies, such as car repairs and medical bills.
Social Security and Medicare work – they need to be funded and protected from the likes of Trump.
Oh, and....
View attachment 374658
Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
Oddball: SS is a terrible investment
Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...
LOL, what a dumbassIt's simple but apparently above your paygrade.Wow, that had nothing to do with what he said at all in any way. This is why I just keep insulting Democrats at this point. You're the dumbest people on the face of the planet.
Oddball: SS is a terrible investment
Hutch: Well you can make OTHER investments too ...
LOL, what a dumbass
It was never meant to be a great investment, dope.
That fact renders OB's post irrelevant.
So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirementNot at all, dope.So you admit social security is actually not a prudent investment in our own retirement
I said it was a guaranteed income. Nothing else.
You're free to make whatever type of investment you can fund.