Trump's tax plan.....You judge!

[edthecynic]

You lefties said the same thing about Reagan, but tax receipts INCREASED under his plan

Bullshit, tax revenues went down after his tax cuts and up after his many tax increases and deficit spending.

 

[kaz]

Historically tax cuts spur economic growth.

Bullshit!

Yes, that's not what the Democrat party told you to say. Economics and history be damned!

 

[kaz]

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

According to the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Trump’s latest proposals would cut taxes by $6.2 trillion over the next decade, with 47% of all cuts in 2017 going to the top 1%.

The tax cuts that Trump is now proposing are smaller than the $9.5 trillion in cuts he floated last year, but are also more tilted in favor of the wealthy.

Under Trump’s new plan, every income group would still get tax cuts, but upper income households would receive the most relief, not only in dollars, but as a percentage of income.

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

He said those making >$25 Thousand indie or >$50 jointly would pay $0. Seems like the tax cuts are supposed to go to the poorest of the poor. Unless there is a new plan.

Lets see if those who are poor are still filling out 1040’s in 2018….if so; you’ll know you were sold a bill of goods.

what's new? As per Romney, 47% of Americans do not pay Federal income tax NOW....

this new plan is just a regurgitated Republican plan that gives most of the tax cut money to the top tier.....putting us further in debt....

Actually that's not per Romney, that's per the IRS. You know Google is your friend.

Not knowing facts is ignorance. Not Googling them in a discussion is stupid

 

[kaz]

I'll need a Moron-to-English dictionary to decipher what this idiot wrote above.

Don't even try Nitwit, you never finished 3rd grade. Otherwise

Here ARE some facts that contributed and STILL are contributing to our debt......

Did GWB offer massive tax cuts while involving us in TWO costly wars?
Yes or No?

Did GWB initiate Medicare Advantage without a clue of how and who was going to pay for it?
Yes or No?

While the tax cuts were implemented, did we lose at an average of 700,000 jobs per month under GWB?
Yes or No?

When we started losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month it wasn't GWB who caused it. Still trying to change history? Not on my watch, you nitwit. When liberals break things, they have to blame the Republicans for what they did. And what is worse, is the liberal voters actually believe them. Stupid people vote dumbocrat. Until 2016, then many woke the fuck up. bwaaaahhaaaahhhhaaaaa........

Bush vs. Obama: Private Sector Job Creation

You are so unfair! Republicans only had 6 years of majorities in all branches of government to fix Clinton's roaring-90s economy and surplus as far as the eye can see!

lets see, at the end of Clintons admin, MCI/WorldCom, Enron and the Dot com bubble burst leaving GW a recession, that you liberals don't ever talk about. GW didn't bitch and moan how he had to inherit that recession but went to work to revitalize the economy/ Then in 2001 9/11 happened removing trillions of dollars from the economy so GW lowered taxes put more money into WORKING peoples hands which were spent and tax revenues rose, because the economy started moving forward. Also, the contract with America had 2 years limited welfare(Clinton signed that) so people couldn't sit in their parents basement getting FREE stuff, for after 2 years the welfare went away. But in comes Obama, puts 99 weeks of unemployment, overrides Bill's welfare bill so those on welfare could be welfare queens forever. You just cant get more dishonest and stupid as a liberal.

it was an itty bitty tiny recession that ended in just a couple of months

Eighteen is a "couple?"

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

According to the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Trump’s latest proposals would cut taxes by $6.2 trillion over the next decade, with 47% of all cuts in 2017 going to the top 1%.

The tax cuts that Trump is now proposing are smaller than the $9.5 trillion in cuts he floated last year, but are also more tilted in favor of the wealthy.

Under Trump’s new plan, every income group would still get tax cuts, but upper income households would receive the most relief, not only in dollars, but as a percentage of income.

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

He said those making >$25 Thousand indie or >$50 jointly would pay $0. Seems like the tax cuts are supposed to go to the poorest of the poor. Unless there is a new plan.

Lets see if those who are poor are still filling out 1040’s in 2018….if so; you’ll know you were sold a bill of goods.

what's new? As per Romney, 47% of Americans do not pay Federal income tax NOW....

this new plan is just a regurgitated Republican plan that gives most of the tax cut money to the top tier.....putting us further in debt....

I guess you didn't notice but with the Keynesian economic plan that Obama had going for his 8 years, that he added 10 Trillion dollars to that debt? Cant fix stupid and the liberals who fundamentally transformed the US, now have to sit in the back of the bus. So shut up, you lost, and your side will never regain control, let the other side do their job. You might actually like the results, as typical that capitalism raises all boats, and you liberals get the goodies that come along with it. Trump should raise your taxes to 90% since you love high taxes, and leave the rest of US at 28%. That would be fair, right you libtards?

 

[miketx]

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

According to the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Trump’s latest proposals would cut taxes by $6.2 trillion over the next decade, with 47% of all cuts in 2017 going to the top 1%.

The tax cuts that Trump is now proposing are smaller than the $9.5 trillion in cuts he floated last year, but are also more tilted in favor of the wealthy.

Under Trump’s new plan, every income group would still get tax cuts, but upper income households would receive the most relief, not only in dollars, but as a percentage of income.

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

Dear gullible retard,

When rich companies pay less taxes, they can hire more people.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You lefties said the same thing about Reagan, but tax receipts INCREASED under his plan

Bullshit, tax revenues went down after his tax cuts and up after his many tax increases and deficit spending.

Deficit spending was by Tip O'Neil who was head of the liberal congress who made promises to Reagan then backed out of the promises like good like eichmans. YOu libtards love to try to change history but I wont let you get away with it.

 

[kaz]

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

According to the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Trump’s latest proposals would cut taxes by $6.2 trillion over the next decade, with 47% of all cuts in 2017 going to the top 1%.

The tax cuts that Trump is now proposing are smaller than the $9.5 trillion in cuts he floated last year, but are also more tilted in favor of the wealthy.

Under Trump’s new plan, every income group would still get tax cuts, but upper income households would receive the most relief, not only in dollars, but as a percentage of income.

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

He said those making >$25 Thousand indie or >$50 jointly would pay $0. Seems like the tax cuts are supposed to go to the poorest of the poor. Unless there is a new plan.

Lets see if those who are poor are still filling out 1040’s in 2018….if so; you’ll know you were sold a bill of goods.

what's new? As per Romney, 47% of Americans do not pay Federal income tax NOW....

this new plan is just a regurgitated Republican plan that gives most of the tax cut money to the top tier.....putting us further in debt....

I guess you didn't notice but with the Keynesian economic plan that Obama had going for his 8 years, that he added 10 Trillion dollars to that debt? Cant fix stupid and the liberals who fundamentally transformed the US, now have to sit in the back of the bus. So shut up, you lost, and your side will never regain control, let the other side do their job. You might actually like the results, as typical that capitalism raises all boats, and you liberals get the goodies that come along with it. Trump should raise your taxes to 90% since you love high taxes, and leave the rest of US at 28%. That would be fair, right you libtards?

My favorite Thatcher quote: The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to spend

 

[edthecynic]

lets see, at the end of Clintons admin, MCI/WorldCom, Enron and the Dot com bubble burst leaving GW a recession, that you liberals don't ever talk about. GW didn't bitch and moan how he had to inherit that recession but went to work to revitalize the economy/ Then in 2001 9/11 happened removing trillions of dollars from the economy so GW lowered taxes put more money into WORKING peoples hands which were spent and tax revenues rose, because the economy started moving forward. Also, the contract with America had 2 years limited welfare(Clinton signed that) so people couldn't sit in their parents basement getting FREE stuff, for after 2 years the welfare went away. But in comes Obama, puts 99 weeks of unemployment, overrides Bill's welfare bill so those on welfare could be welfare queens forever. You just cant get more dishonest and stupid as a liberal.

Actually you are more dishonest than ant ten Libs combined with that pack of lies. The old Gish Gallop in full display.

The Right blames the 2007 Great Bush Recession on the Dems because they controlled Congress, so the GOP own the First Bush Recession. Bush also owns 9/11. Bush put money in the hands of the wealthy, The Dems got working people the $300 rebate that put money in WORKING peoples' hands.

And the 99 weeks was was not in all states and only temporary and due to the severity of the Bush fuck up. Obama overrided nothing and only CON$ervatives are welfare queens.

 

[kaz]

You lefties said the same thing about Reagan, but tax receipts INCREASED under his plan

Bullshit, tax revenues went down after his tax cuts and up after his many tax increases and deficit spending.

Deficit spending was by Tip O'Neil who was head of the liberal congress who made promises to Reagan then backed out of the promises like good like eichmans. YOu libtards love to try to change history but I wont let you get away with it.

Ignorance and making decisions based on emotions is the driving force for leftists

 

[edthecynic]

Deficit spending was by Tip O'Neil who was head of the liberal congress who made promises to Reagan then backed out of the promises like good like eichmans. YOu libtards love to try to change history but I wont let you get away with it.

Now that is typical CON$ervoFascist revisionism!
Reagan welshed on the spending cuts worked out between Dole and O'Neil because some of the agreed upon cuts were to Reagan's pork barrel Star Wars boondoggle/slush fund.

 

[Care4all]

Don't even try Nitwit, you never finished 3rd grade. Otherwise
When we started losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month it wasn't GWB who caused it. Still trying to change history? Not on my watch, you nitwit. When liberals break things, they have to blame the Republicans for what they did. And what is worse, is the liberal voters actually believe them. Stupid people vote dumbocrat. Until 2016, then many woke the fuck up. bwaaaahhaaaahhhhaaaaa........

Bush vs. Obama: Private Sector Job Creation

You are so unfair! Republicans only had 6 years of majorities in all branches of government to fix Clinton's roaring-90s economy and surplus as far as the eye can see!

lets see, at the end of Clintons admin, MCI/WorldCom, Enron and the Dot com bubble burst leaving GW a recession, that you liberals don't ever talk about. GW didn't bitch and moan how he had to inherit that recession but went to work to revitalize the economy/ Then in 2001 9/11 happened removing trillions of dollars from the economy so GW lowered taxes put more money into WORKING peoples hands which were spent and tax revenues rose, because the economy started moving forward. Also, the contract with America had 2 years limited welfare(Clinton signed that) so people couldn't sit in their parents basement getting FREE stuff, for after 2 years the welfare went away. But in comes Obama, puts 99 weeks of unemployment, overrides Bill's welfare bill so those on welfare could be welfare queens forever. You just cant get more dishonest and stupid as a liberal.

it was an itty bitty tiny recession that ended in just a couple of months

Eighteen is a "couple?"

what 18 months? a 'few' would have been more accurate than a couple but it was no where near 18 months...

The recession of 2001 was March through October we were out of it in November....and would have been out of it two months earlier if it had not been for 9/11 happening.

His 2008 Recession, was a monster....

the first recession in 2001 which came from the clinton era bubble was relatively small...and he gave a stimulus that was bringing us out of it, $300 tax rebate for all tax payers....

 

[edthecynic]

You lefties said the same thing about Reagan, but tax receipts INCREASED under his plan

Bullshit, tax revenues went down after his tax cuts and up after his many tax increases and deficit spending.

Deficit spending was by Tip O'Neil who was head of the liberal congress who made promises to Reagan then backed out of the promises like good like eichmans. YOu libtards love to try to change history but I wont let you get away with it.

Ignorance and making decisions based on emotions is the driving force for leftists

Lying is the only driving force for CON$.

 

[edthecynic]

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

According to the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, Trump’s latest proposals would cut taxes by $6.2 trillion over the next decade, with 47% of all cuts in 2017 going to the top 1%.

The tax cuts that Trump is now proposing are smaller than the $9.5 trillion in cuts he floated last year, but are also more tilted in favor of the wealthy.

Under Trump’s new plan, every income group would still get tax cuts, but upper income households would receive the most relief, not only in dollars, but as a percentage of income.

Trump Tax Plan Gives 47% Of Cuts To Richest 1%, New Analysis Finds

Dear gullible retard,

When rich companies pay less taxes, they can hire more people.

In foreign countries.

 

[AntonToo]

Dynamic effects are a small fraction (~20%) of first order revenue reduction. So instead of $10 Trillion you can argue it will be more like 8T and I'll let you do it too....as soon as you conservatives also start arguing that spending this deficit will suppress should be adjusted for dynamic effects too....which you will not, so I will not agree to such standard of accounting on revenues side.

Yes, I am a fiscal conservative. Once again you show liberals are all about money. It's the only measuring stick for you. Am I going to help you get other people's money or try to help keep you away. You're consumed with greed, and you constantly demonstrate that

My only thought about your comment is - WTF???

I'll try to dumb it down for you, though I may not be able to dumb it down all the way to you.

I'm socially more liberal than you are, I'm more small military than you are.

Yet you think I'm a "conservative." The only thing I'm more conservative than you is money. Yet that's the only thing you hear, your obsession with money driven by your greed. Getting your hands on other people's money is the only thing you measure me by because money is the only thing you really care about. The rest is just noise to you

Our exchange so far:

Kaz: Tax cuts have some dynamic feedback.
Anton: But they make for a small fraction of their static reduction to revenues.
Kaz: You are so fucking greedy!

WHAT. THE. FUCK is wrong with you Kaz?

Winston Churchill: I can explain it to you, I cannot comprehend it to you.

You don't care about the wars which I oppose or military spending which I think is too high. You don't care about social issues which I'm against government involvement. I'm a "conservative," that's it, that's all you see. The only thing you care the Federal government does that you actually measure it by is $$$. I have it, you want it. How much are you going to get and why am I trying to stop you? You don't care about any other issue. The very definition of greed

Kaz I don't give a shit who YOU are or what you call yourself, the discussion is about impersonal FACTS. And it just so happens that conservatives have their own set of "facts" when it comes to economy that you buy into.

 

[SixFoot]

Anyone remember back in the day when all these experts were saying "Mrs. President?"

 

[kaz]

Yes, I am a fiscal conservative. Once again you show liberals are all about money. It's the only measuring stick for you. Am I going to help you get other people's money or try to help keep you away. You're consumed with greed, and you constantly demonstrate that

My only thought about your comment is - WTF???

I'll try to dumb it down for you, though I may not be able to dumb it down all the way to you.

I'm socially more liberal than you are, I'm more small military than you are.

Yet you think I'm a "conservative." The only thing I'm more conservative than you is money. Yet that's the only thing you hear, your obsession with money driven by your greed. Getting your hands on other people's money is the only thing you measure me by because money is the only thing you really care about. The rest is just noise to you

Our exchange so far:

Kaz: Tax cuts have some dynamic feedback.
Anton: But they make for a small fraction of their static reduction to revenues.
Kaz: You are so fucking greedy!

WHAT. THE. FUCK is wrong with you Kaz?

Winston Churchill: I can explain it to you, I cannot comprehend it to you.

You don't care about the wars which I oppose or military spending which I think is too high. You don't care about social issues which I'm against government involvement. I'm a "conservative," that's it, that's all you see. The only thing you care the Federal government does that you actually measure it by is $$$. I have it, you want it. How much are you going to get and why am I trying to stop you? You don't care about any other issue. The very definition of greed

Kaz I don't give a shit who YOU are or what you call yourself, the discussion is about impersonal FACTS. And it just so happens that conservatives have their own set of facts when it comes to eocnomy, facts that you buy into.

So you call me a conservative, but you don't give a shit what I am, even though you call me something I'm not. Liberals love to say that. You need me to be a conservative, a Republican, it completely distresses you, you go out of your way to say it. I have to have the label your talking points address.

Oh, but you don't care.

The lady doth protest too much ...

 

[kaz]

Bush vs. Obama: Private Sector Job Creation

You are so unfair! Republicans only had 6 years of majorities in all branches of government to fix Clinton's roaring-90s economy and surplus as far as the eye can see!

lets see, at the end of Clintons admin, MCI/WorldCom, Enron and the Dot com bubble burst leaving GW a recession, that you liberals don't ever talk about. GW didn't bitch and moan how he had to inherit that recession but went to work to revitalize the economy/ Then in 2001 9/11 happened removing trillions of dollars from the economy so GW lowered taxes put more money into WORKING peoples hands which were spent and tax revenues rose, because the economy started moving forward. Also, the contract with America had 2 years limited welfare(Clinton signed that) so people couldn't sit in their parents basement getting FREE stuff, for after 2 years the welfare went away. But in comes Obama, puts 99 weeks of unemployment, overrides Bill's welfare bill so those on welfare could be welfare queens forever. You just cant get more dishonest and stupid as a liberal.

it was an itty bitty tiny recession that ended in just a couple of months

Eighteen is a "couple?"

what 18 months? a 'few' would have been more accurate than a couple but it was no where near 18 months...

The recession of 2001 was March through October we were out of it in November....and would have been out of it two months earlier if it had not been for 9/11 happening.

His 2008 Recession, was a monster....

the first recession in 2001 which came from the clinton era bubble was relatively small...and he gave a stimulus that was bringing us out of it, $300 tax rebate for all tax payers....

You're full of shit. Not interested in arguing with your desire to rewrite history for the Democrats. I pointed out, a "couple" or a "few" is bull. You want to lie? Go ahead, but you've been called on it.

The recession started in the third quarter of 2000 and ended in 2003. And it was actually a hard recession. The third quarter of 2000 was originally actually negative, but in follow up they did eventually revise it to eke out a microscopic positive. Tell people on the street that revising a quarter to a microscopic positive actually means things were actually good for them ...

 

[nat4900]

Dear gullible retard,

When rich companies pay less taxes, they can hire more people.

True, eternal moron......Unfortunately those people hired are Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipinos, and Mexican...............They're much CHEAPER to hire.

 

[miketx]

Dear gullible retard,

When rich companies pay less taxes, they can hire more people.

True, eternal moron......Unfortunately those people hired are Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipinos, and Mexican...............They're much CHEAPER to hire.

Prove it! Oh wait, you can't, so you lie. Liar liar pants on fire, hanging from a telephone wire! LOL!