Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[danielpalos]

How much do you think should those kind of agricultural jobs get paid? 25$?
I know couple of business owners here to in Ca that own McDonald's franchises and none are making $16 except shift managers.
What made you think I don't recognized/refused ------ supply and demands? That is what I do for a living but I refuse to believe and believe:
1. Most Americans will not take over those jobs even if you raised it to a reasonable $18.
2. You don't just wake up and suddenly you want to work in those kind of hard dirty labor. If you are not born to do this kind of jobs you will not last and probably quit the same or the next day. That's been proven over and over. I believed you are physically tough but not all Americans are like you.
3. if you have kids ------ are you going to give up your welfare checks and work for $18 to $20?
Then pay babysitter.
4. Even if you find Americans that are willing to work in those kind environments. I'm very sure it's not in millions.
5. Now -------- What are you going to do if those illegals are gone? Shut down the agricultural business?
6. Definitely all prices will also go up from food to other services. Are you speaking for the rest of poor Americans that are trying to get by?

Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

• Philip Wegmann

3 years ago

Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

A Walmart store in Williston, N.D., is offering to pay entry-level workers as much as $17.40 per hour—nearly 2½ times the federal minimum wage—in an effort to compete in one of America’s most dynamic labor markets.

The push for a “living wage” has gained momentum in cities such as Seattle recently. But the historic oil boom in North Dakota has provided real, sustained growth in wages and lowered unemployment in North Dakota to 2.6 percent—the lowest statewide rate in the nation—and to less than 1 percent in Williston, which is near the oil fields in the western part of the state.


://www.google.com/amp/dailysignal.com/2014/06/10/drilling-innovation-forcing-walmart-north-dakota-pay-17-40-hour/amp/

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

 

[oldsoul]

In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence.

And here it is, about a week and a half later. Where is this "solid evidence" you speak of?

Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

In case you didn't know, taking down Trump (removing him from office), would put Pence in. Remove him and you get Paul Ryan. So, are you going to take all three of them down? Well then you end up with Orrin Hatch. Take him down and the list continues: Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of the Interior, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Secretary of Homeland Security.

How far down the list do we would need to go to get a person who is acceptable to you?

Anyone in favor of removing Trump, for whatever reason, should make themselves familiar with the following before going any further in advocating such action:
Presidential Succession Act - Wikipedia
And make sure that you can make the case to go as far as it takes to get someone you "approve of", otherwise it's a waste of time, and an undermining of the Republic for no, or little, good reason.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan. Pence is a magic Christian, aka, likely to ignore the limits of government set in the First Amendment. But, he is not all of the above, and would likely replace the obsequious ideologues Trump nominated for his cabinet and the senate confirmed by partisan vote.

Pence is a professional pol, and understands the process; something else in which Trump is deficient.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan.

Trump is "incompetent"? Well, seeing as he was competent enough to beat Clinton, what does that say about the "best and brightest" the DNC has to offer? Before you trot out some crap about how Clinton won the "popular vote", let me save you the trouble, she did, but that is not how Presidents are elected in this country. Also, if you want to bring up the alleged "Russian collusion", please, by all means provide the proof that has been, thus far, so elusive.

The rest, I would tend to agree with you on, but incompetent? No, I have to disagree with you there.

 

[charwin95]

Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

• Philip Wegmann

3 years ago

Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

A Walmart store in Williston, N.D., is offering to pay entry-level workers as much as $17.40 per hour—nearly 2½ times the federal minimum wage—in an effort to compete in one of America’s most dynamic labor markets.

The push for a “living wage” has gained momentum in cities such as Seattle recently. But the historic oil boom in North Dakota has provided real, sustained growth in wages and lowered unemployment in North Dakota to 2.6 percent—the lowest statewide rate in the nation—and to less than 1 percent in Williston, which is near the oil fields in the western part of the state.


://www.google.com/amp/dailysignal.com/2014/06/10/drilling-innovation-forcing-walmart-north-dakota-pay-17-40-hour/amp/

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

 

[charwin95]

In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence.

And here it is, about a week and a half later. Where is this "solid evidence" you speak of?

Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

In case you didn't know, taking down Trump (removing him from office), would put Pence in. Remove him and you get Paul Ryan. So, are you going to take all three of them down? Well then you end up with Orrin Hatch. Take him down and the list continues: Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of the Interior, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Secretary of Homeland Security.

How far down the list do we would need to go to get a person who is acceptable to you?

Anyone in favor of removing Trump, for whatever reason, should make themselves familiar with the following before going any further in advocating such action:
Presidential Succession Act - Wikipedia
And make sure that you can make the case to go as far as it takes to get someone you "approve of", otherwise it's a waste of time, and an undermining of the Republic for no, or little, good reason.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan. Pence is a magic Christian, aka, likely to ignore the limits of government set in the First Amendment. But, he is not all of the above, and would likely replace the obsequious ideologues Trump nominated for his cabinet and the senate confirmed by partisan vote.

Pence is a professional pol, and understands the process; something else in which Trump is deficient.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan.

Trump is "incompetent"? Well, seeing as he was competent enough to beat Clinton, what does that say about the "best and brightest" the DNC has to offer? Before you trot out some crap about how Clinton won the "popular vote", let me save you the trouble, she did, but that is not how Presidents are elected in this country. Also, if you want to bring up the alleged "Russian collusion", please, by all means provide the proof that has been, thus far, so elusive.

The rest, I would tend to agree with you on, but incompetent? No, I have to disagree with you there.

Incompetent? So how is he doing today?

 

[Issa]

"Illegal immigration" is the backbone of this country even Trump knows it. Think for a moment what the cost of food will be if there are no illegal immigrants.
And building a huge wall won't stop people from come in illegally, it'll be via boats, visas, tunnels, even cargo.
Trump is a populist liar, and the uneducated dumb and shallow minded ate his bullshit.

 

[danielpalos]

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

You make my case for me; who are you going to hire at fifteen dollars an hour?

 

[danielpalos]

"Illegal immigration" is the backbone of this country even Trump knows it. Think for a moment what the cost of food will be if there are no illegal immigrants.
And building a huge wall won't stop people from come in illegally, it'll be via boats, visas, tunnels, even cargo.
Trump is a populist liar, and the uneducated dumb and shallow minded ate his bullshit.

The right wing has no solutions, just more, socialism on a national basis.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

• Philip Wegmann

3 years ago

Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

A Walmart store in Williston, N.D., is offering to pay entry-level workers as much as $17.40 per hour—nearly 2½ times the federal minimum wage—in an effort to compete in one of America’s most dynamic labor markets.

The push for a “living wage” has gained momentum in cities such as Seattle recently. But the historic oil boom in North Dakota has provided real, sustained growth in wages and lowered unemployment in North Dakota to 2.6 percent—the lowest statewide rate in the nation—and to less than 1 percent in Williston, which is near the oil fields in the western part of the state.


://www.google.com/amp/dailysignal.com/2014/06/10/drilling-innovation-forcing-walmart-north-dakota-pay-17-40-hour/amp/

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Does everyone work at Ford you stupid fucking socialist?

 

[danielpalos]

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Does everyone work at Ford you stupid fucking socialist?

what percent of the population works minimum wage?

 

[Wyatt earp]

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Does everyone work at Ford you stupid fucking socialist?

what percent of the population works minimum wage?

What percentage of working Americans make under :$15 bucks an hour?


.

 

[oldsoul]

Again it's simple economics 101 you get rid of 20 million illegals wages
Will go up...


McDonald’s Signing Bonuses: North Dakota Outlet Offering $300 To Potential Hires

.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

As I recall, this argument was made in the mid 19th century, although in a slightly different way, in regards to the end of slavery. Then, what happened? Holy crap, someone got the great idea of mechanising many of the tasks that were once performed by slaves. I wonder if history would repeat itself here...

 

[oldsoul]

In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence.

And here it is, about a week and a half later. Where is this "solid evidence" you speak of?

Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

In case you didn't know, taking down Trump (removing him from office), would put Pence in. Remove him and you get Paul Ryan. So, are you going to take all three of them down? Well then you end up with Orrin Hatch. Take him down and the list continues: Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of the Interior, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Secretary of Homeland Security.

How far down the list do we would need to go to get a person who is acceptable to you?

Anyone in favor of removing Trump, for whatever reason, should make themselves familiar with the following before going any further in advocating such action:
Presidential Succession Act - Wikipedia
And make sure that you can make the case to go as far as it takes to get someone you "approve of", otherwise it's a waste of time, and an undermining of the Republic for no, or little, good reason.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan. Pence is a magic Christian, aka, likely to ignore the limits of government set in the First Amendment. But, he is not all of the above, and would likely replace the obsequious ideologues Trump nominated for his cabinet and the senate confirmed by partisan vote.

Pence is a professional pol, and understands the process; something else in which Trump is deficient.

Trump is incompetent, compulsive, a megalomaniac, a narcissist, and a charlatan.

Trump is "incompetent"? Well, seeing as he was competent enough to beat Clinton, what does that say about the "best and brightest" the DNC has to offer? Before you trot out some crap about how Clinton won the "popular vote", let me save you the trouble, she did, but that is not how Presidents are elected in this country. Also, if you want to bring up the alleged "Russian collusion", please, by all means provide the proof that has been, thus far, so elusive.

The rest, I would tend to agree with you on, but incompetent? No, I have to disagree with you there.

Incompetent? So how is he doing today?

Seems to be doing just as well as Mr Obama did, IMHO.

 

[oldsoul]

"Illegal immigration" is the backbone of this country even Trump knows it. Think for a moment what the cost of food will be if there are no illegal immigrants.
And building a huge wall won't stop people from come in illegally, it'll be via boats, visas, tunnels, even cargo.
Trump is a populist liar, and the uneducated dumb and shallow minded ate his bullshit.

The right wing has no solutions, just more, socialism on a national basis.

Sadly, you are correct. That is why I have abandoned BOTH the GOP and the DNC, and people are joining me in droves.

 

[Issa]

This society when it comes to physical labor is too lazy. Is no stranger why we are the fattest nationa on earth. I wish most conservatives visit other parts of the world and see how healthy people and fashionable they can be. Cause to them there is nothing better out there....I invite you to see what kids eat the school cafeteria, mind blowing.

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

As I recall, this argument was made in the mid 19th century, although in a slightly different way, in regards to the end of slavery. Then, what happened? Holy crap, someone got the great idea of mechanising many of the tasks that were once performed by slaves. I wonder if history would repeat itself here...

 

[danielpalos]

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Does everyone work at Ford you stupid fucking socialist?

what percent of the population works minimum wage?

What percentage of working Americans make under :$15 bucks an hour?


.

does it really matter? the right wing is just clueless and Causeless about economics; fast food surcharges prove it.

 

[charwin95]

What I'm telling you are the facts and reality in life ------ No bullshit.
What you are telling me are just pure nonsense and just plain tough shit ------- Bullshit.

Let me dissect the anomaly of your anally constipated economy 101. These illegals mostly works for agricultural, meat and poultry, garments, home care, convalescence home, cleaning etc etc etc with low paying jobs. Not in the corporate world.
1. As an example----------- Restaurants using your $25 estimate. In order to entice my fellow Americans to work as a bus boy, dish washer, janitor, cook at a restaurant you want them to get paid from $8 to $25. Most likely hostess and waitresses will be asking for $25/hour wages also. Since the prices of meat, chicken and vegetables went skyrocketed------ you also increased the labor of the restaurant workers overnight to $25.
How much do you think the price increase of those menus? How many customers do you think can afford to go to these restaurants? Are these restaurants gaining more customers or less? What do you think will happen to the restaurants enterprises?
2. Since food and other consumables went up because of your policy -------- Do you think car repairs, airlines, home care, beauty shops and other services will stay the same or go up? What do you think will happen to people like you who has fix income?
In short your just fucked up the economy.

Anything else tough guy?

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

You make my case for me; who are you going to hire at fifteen dollars an hour?

People at the home care, farm workers, carpenters etc make $15 or $18. I don't get involved with these type of labors but I know lots of business owners that are in to these types of enterprises.

 

[charwin95]

"Illegal immigration" is the backbone of this country even Trump knows it. Think for a moment what the cost of food will be if there are no illegal immigrants.
And building a huge wall won't stop people from come in illegally, it'll be via boats, visas, tunnels, even cargo.
Trump is a populist liar, and the uneducated dumb and shallow minded ate his bullshit.

A lot of Americans don't understand or not willing to understand that.

 

[Issa]

Most people that are complaining about illegals, benefit from illegals directly or indirectly. I'm yet to meet an illegal that is lazy and obese, and is watching TV non stop or online 24/7. Most they came here for better life and to help their families.

 

[danielpalos]

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


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Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Does everyone work at Ford you stupid fucking socialist?

what percent of the population works minimum wage?

What percentage of working Americans make under :$15 bucks an hour?


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social services "pay out" the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. our minimum wage should beat that "pay out" under our form of capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

Yet you don't think that would happen raising the minimum wage don't you dumb ass?


.

Rising the minimum wage gradually will not hurt the economy.
Rising wages overnight at very high rate will cripple the economy. Just like your example of $25/hour under the table. Stupid.

Ford doubled auto worker wages, not minimum wages. There was no harm to the economy.

Ford is only a company not a country and it was well planned.
Try to apply that concept to illegals making between $8. to $15. in millions.
Then tomorrow ------ that's right tomorrow make that $25/hour or up. How is that going to work if you own a restaurant or a farmer or others that depends on illegals? Definitely they will increase their prices.------- or they will close the door. That is if you can find enough Americans in millions that are willing to work. Some maybe but not in millions and millions.

You make my case for me; who are you going to hire at fifteen dollars an hour?

People at the home care, farm workers, carpenters etc make $15 or $18. I don't get involved with these type of labors but I know lots of business owners that are in to these types of enterprises.

In other words, you have no need for minimum wage labor.