US solar energy company puts indefinite hold on new investment after DrumpF tariffs

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SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.
 
More winning. Lol! MAGA!

If this is Bone Spur's definition of winning, I don't want to see what losing looks like.
 
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More winning. Lol! MAGA!

If this is Bone Spur's definition of winning, I don't want to see what losing likes it.

Spur, No Knows Trade.
This moron is a Con Man Builder of buildings. Not really.
That takes little Trade knowledge.
The Great Douche is so out of his Zone, of lying Cons..
 
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SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?
 
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SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".
 
"Elections have , um, consequences"
-Saint Barack

"If, you, uh, don't like it, well, um, go out and, uh, win some elections"
- Saint Obama
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our products down.
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.

Is that going to cover the initial costs of the factory and hiring new workers? That 30 percent is a "what if" number, but if there aren't enough manufacturers, then it's kind of a moot point. You can't make more solar panels here if investors aren't willing to start up a factory to build them.
 
And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer.

True. Just like we have been saying for years raising taxes will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the taxes off to the customer. In this case however, the reduction in taxes to the US company buying and installing the panels may offset the added cost of the panel tariffs. In addition it should help make US production of panels more feasible.
 
And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer.

True. Just like we have been saying for years raising taxes will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the taxes off to the customer. In this case however, the reduction in taxes to the US company buying and installing the panels may offset the added cost of the panel tariffs. In addition it should help make US production of panels more feasible.

Isn't interesting that some people have just learn that lesson. :D
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".


Asia has been dumping them for years in the US market and you get your news from VISE?


God damn....may as well get it from SNL
 
And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer.

True. Just like we have been saying for years raising taxes will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the taxes off to the customer. In this case however, the reduction in taxes to the US company buying and installing the panels may offset the added cost of the panel tariffs. In addition it should help make US production of panels more feasible.

Like I said, saw this on VICE News the other day, and there currently aren't enough solar panel manufacturers here in the US to make up the shortfall from the tariff. There would have to be more companies getting in the game and building factories to make them. Currently there isn't.

And, because of that and the tariffs being imposed, it's going to make the panels more expensive, which will result in fewer people being able to afford them, which will result in American jobs being lost because of the reduced need for installers.
 
SunPower's decision to halt its growth in California and Texas follows President Trump's announcement Monday that a 30 percent tariff would be placed on all imported solar technologies.
President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on cheap imported panels was intended to protect American manufacturing jobs, but many in the solar industry have argued that tariffs will raise costs and trigger thousands of layoffs in the installation end of the industry.
SunPower puts U.S. expansion on hold over Trump tariff

:itsok: Poor, Poor Douche. You no good at creating JOBS!
Our employed workers here, are not makers but maintenance and installers.
China makes them so cheap we can't make them here to install.
This is Big Oil fucking America.

Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".


Asia has been dumping them for years in the US market and you get your news from VISE?


God damn....may as well get it from SNL

If you have HBO, I recommend checking it out some night. It comes on here at 1830 CST, and the reason I like their reporting is because much of the bias is left out, and they simply report the story. Both sides incidentally.

And, it's VICE News, not VISE.
 
Why don't they make their own solar panels?

Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.

Is that going to cover the initial costs of the factory and hiring new workers? That 30 percent is a "what if" number, but if there aren't enough manufacturers, then it's kind of a moot point. You can't make more solar panels here if investors aren't willing to start up a factory to build them.

You're not following...

If we're covering about 15% of the market, it means that we do have domestic production already. The problem is that cheap imports from China are hurting domestic production and since China is trying to undermine us on every step, this is one of the ways of telling them, enough is enough. You're stealing our technology, patents, intellectual property, manipulating currency, keep doing that and we'll react.
 
Saw this on VICE News the other day. And, the reason we don't have many American made solar panels is because there aren't that many companies here that make them. I think American solar panels are only about 15 percent of the market.

And, putting a 30 percent tariff on foreign solar panels (where most are made anyway), will only drive the cost up for the consumer, because the companies will simply pass the tariff off to the customer. What used to cost 100 bucks is now 130, and because of that, many will opt to not use solar power because it will be more expensive again. And just when solar was getting ready to seriously compete with other forms of energy.

And, when people quit installing solar panels, there will be fewer workers required to install them, resulting in a lot of jobs being lost. And those aren't jobs that are outsourced to other countries, those are American jobs being lost.

Yeah..............you can tell Trump I'm tired of his "winning".

With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.

Is that going to cover the initial costs of the factory and hiring new workers? That 30 percent is a "what if" number, but if there aren't enough manufacturers, then it's kind of a moot point. You can't make more solar panels here if investors aren't willing to start up a factory to build them.

You're not following...

If we're covering about 15% of the market, it means that we do have domestic production already. The problem is that cheap imports from China are hurting domestic production and since China is trying to undermine us on every step, this is one of the ways of telling them, enough is enough. You're stealing our technology, patents, intellectual property, manipulating currency, keep doing that and we'll react.

You are missing the point. We don't have enough factories to make up the shortfalls that will happen because of the tariffs. You gotta have more factories to make them in order to fill the gap, but there aren't very many investors willing to jump into solar energy.
 
With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.

Is that going to cover the initial costs of the factory and hiring new workers? That 30 percent is a "what if" number, but if there aren't enough manufacturers, then it's kind of a moot point. You can't make more solar panels here if investors aren't willing to start up a factory to build them.

You're not following...

If we're covering about 15% of the market, it means that we do have domestic production already. The problem is that cheap imports from China are hurting domestic production and since China is trying to undermine us on every step, this is one of the ways of telling them, enough is enough. You're stealing our technology, patents, intellectual property, manipulating currency, keep doing that and we'll react.

You are missing the point. We don't have enough factories to make up the shortfalls that will happen because of the tariffs. You gotta have more factories to make them in order to fill the gap, but there aren't very many investors willing to jump into solar energy.

I'm not worrying about that. Once you open floodgates, the gap will get plugged quickly, who is better at that than Americans. Unless, of course, government gets involved with their payout projects, like Solyndra.
 
With 30% tariff on foreign solar panel, there is a big gap left to fill.

Those 15% or market held by Americans can now become 30%, or more. Price doesn't have to be passed on the consumer if American product become cheaper.

I am not supporter of tariffs, but they're at the moment only way to level the playing field. We need to do it on Japanese, Korean and European cars too, not to make their product more expensive (which will be for some period of time), but to force them take tariffs on our product down.

The only way that American solar panel companies could become that large a part of the market is to get more American companies to make solar panels. Currently there aren't enough companies making them here in the USA. That is what the main problem is for that.

They just got 30% incentive to start the business.

Is that going to cover the initial costs of the factory and hiring new workers? That 30 percent is a "what if" number, but if there aren't enough manufacturers, then it's kind of a moot point. You can't make more solar panels here if investors aren't willing to start up a factory to build them.

You're not following...

If we're covering about 15% of the market, it means that we do have domestic production already. The problem is that cheap imports from China are hurting domestic production and since China is trying to undermine us on every step, this is one of the ways of telling them, enough is enough. You're stealing our technology, patents, intellectual property, manipulating currency, keep doing that and we'll react.

You are missing the point. We don't have enough factories to make up the shortfalls that will happen because of the tariffs. You gotta have more factories to make them in order to fill the gap, but there aren't very many investors willing to jump into solar energy.
Big Oil knows this. The Great Douche is doing it for Exxon.
So they can buy up the companies on the cheap.
Controlling it fully..
 

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