Very simply, why I cannot stand Donald Trump

[jillian]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

Awwwwww. Look at the laughing little trumptards

 

[Meathead]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

And you didn't vote for Crooked Hillary? Yeah, I know, then you did, but now you didn't.

 

[Snouter]

you're pathetic

Listen punk, a moderator called Coyote attacked my physical body which is on various porn sites if you are interested and called me names, so like The Donald I hit back and knocked the nerd the fuck out. Any follow up questions?

 

[Sahba]

No I wouldn't agree, they can wait their turn as I've said 3 times now.

Also get to illegals, answer the two other questions I asked. Here's a reminder of what they were
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Do you lump asylum seekers into those numbers?

How can they "wait their turn" if they are fleeing horrendous situations? (and remember - we are talking only about an initial hearing which determines whether their case as merit) - is our situation so dire we can not even allow that?

There are quite a few asylum seekers in those numbers because they didn't show for hearings and have deportation orders.

Also we are allowing hearing to see if they have merit, but our resources are finite, not infinite. They can wait.

No stop trying to slip my questions. Give some straight answers if you're capable.


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I have given straight answers to your straight questions.

We can handle asylum seekers. We have for years. What has suddenly changed NOW (when illegal immigration is at a 50 year low and the economy is supposedly roaring) that we can not handle them?

OH BS, how many more can we be expected to take????? NUMBERS not obfuscation.

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What has suddenly changed NOW (when illegal immigration is at a 50 year low and the economy is supposedly roaring) that we can not handle them? Bearing in mind most asylum requests are denied.

It's not yet a matter of 'being able to handle', I & the overwhelming majority don't want to, choose not to and have collectively gotten off our arse's & voted predominantly on this issue, to stop the status quo illegal immigration policies dead in its tracks.

 

[Snouter]

We can handle asylum seekers. We have for years. What has suddenly changed NOW (when illegal immigration is at a 50 year low and the economy is supposedly roaring) that we can not handle them?

You are insane. Do you have any idea about the crime fake "asylum seekers" cause?

 

[bripat9643]

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families.

Build the wall.

Is that the only policy?

That is a policy that wouldn't separate families.

The only one?

Coming in legally is my favorite.


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Asylum seekers, attempting to come in legally through check points were turned way.

None of these so-called "asylum seekers" are being persecuted by their governments. They're just trying to get away from their shithole countries.

 

[bripat9643]

That is a policy that wouldn't separate families.

The only one?

Coming in legally is my favorite.


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Asylum seekers, attempting to come in legally through check points were turned way.

We have limited processing capacity, they have to wait their turn. You're only talking about a few days.


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No...we don't...or, let's just say we didn't until now. And no we aren't talking about "a few days" - weeks to months. OK, this was a part of the immigration plan for this administration - to deliberately delay and discourage asylum seekers.

And why?

If you complain that most of it is "false" well so what? Most are rejected.

What is in it for you to force desperate people to apply endlessly and then finally resort to illegal entry, still trying for aslylum, only to have their children taken. What's in it for you?

They stop trying to come here. That's what's in it for us. Every so-called "asylum seeker" either gets on welfare or takes an American job.

 

[Cellblock2429]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

/----/ Congress wrote that law and Dems voted for it, Obozo enforced it.

 

[bripat9643]

We have limited processing capacity, they have to wait their turn. You're only talking about a few days.


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No...we don't...or, let's just say we didn't until now. And no we aren't talking about "a few days" - weeks to months. OK, this was a part of the immigration plan for this administration - to deliberately delay and discourage asylum seekers.

And why?

If you complain that most of it is "false" well so what? Most are rejected.

What is in it for you to force desperate people to apply endlessly and then finally resort to illegal entry, still trying for aslylum, only to have their children taken. What's in it for you?

Enforcing the law. Under the loose criteria under the maobama regime almost 80% of asylum claims were unfounded. Under the new criteria it be higher than 95%.

But tell the class, what's in it for you to flood the country, it's roads, schools, housing, health care system, judicial system and many others with non-English speaking low educated and low skilled people. While you're at it, tell us when enough will be enough? We probably have 40 million, do you want another 40, 60, 100 million, give us a number at which point we can enforce our laws and not have to FEEL bad about it.


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What is asylum law?

How is it not being enforced?

Fact: they get a hearing. That's their right, would you agree? If it's "no" they are deported. It it's a "yes" they aren't.

So...unfounded or not - are you stating they shouldn't get the chance?

I'll be happy to address your questions after you address mine.


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I looked at the post you made that I responded to an noticed a dirth of ?'s. In fact, just one.

Q: While you're at it, tell us when enough will be enough?

I am not of the belief that this is a zero sum game. We always have room for some and of those sum, are asylum seekers. This is long standing law - both federal and international. We have always been a haven for the persecuted. I don't feel that should change - it's foundational in our nation. And, as I said - it is the current law.

Now I ahve answered your singular question.

Your turn

Wrong. We don't have more room. America is full. The fact that we did something in the past is not a justification for continuing to do it.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump's policies resulted in the DOW being around 25,000 in a year and a half and the 401k's of hypocrite lefties making money for a change. Foreign policy resulted in the release of three Americans held in N.K. without spending a dime. Consumer confidence is at an all time high and Black unemployment is at a historic low. What's not to like about Trump's policies? When agnostic lefties and anti-Trump low information addicts start quoting freaking "Scripture" "I have been taught to treat my neighbor etc" you know they are going freaking crazy

Didn't you enjoy Sessions quoting scripture for separating children from their families? Good times, good times!

 

[OODA_Loop]

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

My children will be separated from me by Mexican authorities if I illegally sneak into Mexico with them.

 

[debbiedowner]

Do woo fewel bettah?

Wow. the peanut gallery is alive and well

you're half right

the damn press keeps reporting what trump does and a majority of americans realize he's a complete asshat

so unfair

sad

A majority of Americans are delighted with their latest paycheck.

i'm sure the extra $12 is a big deal at your house.

I'm a consultant, and the offers I'm getting have multiplied by a factor of 10. Recruiters call me every single day, and I've never even sent out a resume.

If you're on linked in and a professional recruiters call all of us everyday or email us, don't feel special.

 

[debbiedowner]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

You can't stand Donald Trump because he is pro-America, and you fucking hate America.

Oh shut up. We like the environment. We like a strong middle class. We like social security and Medicare

A strong middle class and Social Security are mutally exclusive. Social Security looted the middle class and made it dependent on government handouts.

The Cold War cost us 5 trillion. But you cry about social security? How about the Iraq war? How about the bush tax breaks? How about the trump tax breaks. We aren’t broke. The rich have never been richer and keep getting richer. What should we do about that widening gap?

Social Security's unfunded liabilities come to ver $100 trillion.

Your belief that we didn't need to fight the cold war is hysterical. A tax cut is not a cost to the taxpayers, moron. It's a cost only to government parasites like you.

How much of that did GW steal to fund the start of the Iraq war?

 

[BluesLegend]

Very simply, why I cannot stand Donald Trump

Its not about YOU its about the country, Obama?

 

[debbiedowner]

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

I was raised during the 60's and 70's and liberalism taught us all not to impose our morality on others, prior to that lesson being forced upon us their were fewer gun laws and fewer school shootings, their was no epidemic of "death by sex" prior to the sexual revolution and no one needed to be reminded about "safe sex", public schools were run almost exclusively by parents and teachers working closely together with each other with no outside interference from the left and were allowed to pray and pledge if they wanted to...but we were ostracized out of our morality so I would thank you if you refrained from now pretending a lack of morality in anyone or anything is somehow anyone else's fault but the lefts.

Do you see Trump's lack of morality as a beneficial part of our culture today?

When did leftwingers suddenly start caring about morality?

Since the inception of morality. When did Righties stop caring about morality?

Trump has had it easier from he press than any politician in history

Now that's funny.

He's certainly had more air time than any President I can remember.

 

[debbiedowner]

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families.

Build the wall.

But he separated families instead.

You should push for Congress to fully fund a wall...….for the children!

What happened,to,the Mexican funding? And I'd rather see hospitals and schools built with the wall money... for the children.

Illegals are consuming all the funding for that.

Immigrants have added $63 billion to our economy. And if you have money to build a wall, you should have money to build a hospital and a school.

While I'm not a fan of illegals if they obtain a TIN and work then they are paying taxes and help funding social security and Medicare, with enough could just care out these 2 programs for many more years that are projected. They also do add to the economy. Get rid of all of them your economy will collapse.

 

[debbiedowner]

What is asylum law?

How is it not being enforced?

Fact: they get a hearing. That's their right, would you agree? If it's "no" they are deported. It it's a "yes" they aren't.

So...unfounded or not - are you stating they shouldn't get the chance?

I'll be happy to address your questions after you address mine.


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I looked at the post you made that I responded to an noticed a dirth of ?'s. In fact, just one.

Q: While you're at it, tell us when enough will be enough?

I am not of the belief that this is a zero sum game. We always have room for some and of those sum, are asylum seekers. This is long standing law - both federal and international. We have always been a haven for the persecuted. I don't feel that should change - it's foundational in our nation. And, as I said - it is the current law.

Now I ahve answered your singular question.

Your turn

If you read the second paragraph it contained 3 questions, pardon my poor punctuation.

I have no problem with asylum seekers, however they can apply form their home countries. And international law requires them to apply in the first country the come to that offers it, that could be Mexico, or Belize
which is much closer. There's no reason for them to just show up at our border in mass and overload our systems. If they do they can wait their turn. If they cross illegally they can be prosecuted. A kid is NOT A VISA.


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A kid is not a VISA.

But a kid is not a political tool either.

Families fleeing violence are not going to leave their kids to face that violence. If they did they would be piss poor parents.

They have right, under our law and international law, to a hearing. You can't deny that. Yet Trump's regime is barring them that. That would be against the law. Would you not agree?

Families fleeing violence are NOT required to come to the United States. There are destinations much closer and much safer to drag children too.

I often wonder why they don't go to South America where everyone speaks their language.

 

[bripat9643]

You can't stand Donald Trump because he is pro-America, and you fucking hate America.

Oh shut up. We like the environment. We like a strong middle class. We like social security and Medicare

A strong middle class and Social Security are mutally exclusive. Social Security looted the middle class and made it dependent on government handouts.

The Cold War cost us 5 trillion. But you cry about social security? How about the Iraq war? How about the bush tax breaks? How about the trump tax breaks. We aren’t broke. The rich have never been richer and keep getting richer. What should we do about that widening gap?

Social Security's unfunded liabilities come to ver $100 trillion.

Your belief that we didn't need to fight the cold war is hysterical. A tax cut is not a cost to the taxpayers, moron. It's a cost only to government parasites like you.

How much of that did GW steal to fund the start of the Iraq war?

He didn't "steal" a fucking penny, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

But he separated families instead.

You should push for Congress to fully fund a wall...….for the children!

What happened,to,the Mexican funding? And I'd rather see hospitals and schools built with the wall money... for the children.

Illegals are consuming all the funding for that.

Immigrants have added $63 billion to our economy. And if you have money to build a wall, you should have money to build a hospital and a school.

While I'm not a fan of illegals if they obtain a TIN and work then they are paying taxes and help funding social security and Medicare, with enough could just care out these 2 programs for many more years that are projected. They also do add to the economy. Get rid of all of them your economy will collapse.

If we need to continually import more workers to keep SS solvent, that just means it's a Ponzi scheme. The end game here is that the population of the USA goes to infinity. A better solution is to run the program on a sound financial bases.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And there is nothing about being a Progressive or a Socialist is anything but American. Unfettered Capitalism and regressive social attitudes have never brought any benefits to themAmerican people at large, only to the wealthiest.

Unfettered capitalism is what made the USA the wealthiest country in the world, dumbass.

Is that good?

If you're American...can't speak for the rest of the world but I do know that prior to American capitalism the number one cause of death in the world was famine, since America is pretty much the reason that isn't true anymore the liberals are now attacking and blaming Americans for obesity...can't have America seen in glowing terms now can we?

Capitalism put an end to famine as a cause of death. It's also reducing the incidence of poverty in the world at an astounding rate. Something like 500 million people were lifted out of the lowest kind of poverty in China in the last 20 years.

Capitalism is a mixed bag (and before you erupt, I am a supporter of the capitalist economic system) - the mixed bag is in "unfettered". Child labor, the Triangle Shirt Factory fire, coal mine disasters from cutting corners etc...those are "unfettered" capitalism.

When have you EVER supported Capitalism, Comrade? You are one of the louder voices of the Socialists (Communist) on this board.