we can say sure Trump can run BUT he cannot hold any office with within the federal,state or local offices of government.

[JoeB131]

Because it is impossible when Trump got 74 million. The most a sitting president ever got. And strange the mail ballots gave Incest Joe the victory. They stupidly overplayed their hand. That is what they thought they would need when they stopped counting before they resumed.. That is what happened.

Uh, the numbers are kind of meaningless, because they ALWAYS grow. Obama got more than Bush, Bush got more than Clinton, Clinton got more than Reagan.

The electorate is growing, that's why there are more votes.

Biden got more votes than anyone.

 

[Lastamender]

Uh, the numbers are kind of meaningless, because they ALWAYS grow. Obama got more than Bush, Bush got more than Clinton, Clinton got more than Reagan.

The electorate is growing, that's why there are more votes.

Biden got more votes than anyone.

Not by that much. Get a fucking clue, the 2020 Presidential election was stolen and the people that represent us let it happen and are still covering their asses with lawfare,

 

[Cellblock2429]

Why is that an impossible number?

If I find any number impossible to believe, it's that Trump increased his total number of votes despite his repeated fuckups on Covid, the Economy, and the riots.

But the explanation is pretty clear.

Voter Participation grew from 59% to 66%.
People pissing away their votes on third parties decreased.

But Trump got the same percentage of the vote in 2020 he got in 2016, a little under 47%. The same number Romney got in terms of percentage. Biden improved on Hillarys numbers because - again- people realized voting third party was a wasted vote.

"but, but, but... Trump was leading and then he wasn't."

Trump was leading in the very small early returns from rural areas, because those areas finish their counting faster than the Urban areas. This is nothing new, which is why none of the News organizations - not even Fox - was willing to call these states for Trump on the basis of projections.

Furthermore, most of these states had rules that the same day votes had to be counted before the mail-in ballots, which is kind of time consuming and fucked up, when you think about it.

/----/ " his repeated fuckups on Covid, the Economy, and the riots."
Your constant hyperbole is tiresome. Get some new material, will ya?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

The above does not say an individual cannot run for office, neither does it suggest use of a 5th amendment bypass of the 14th Amendment

However it does say No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Thus we can say sure Trump can run BUT he cannot hold any office with within the federal,state or local offices of government.

To alter anything that is said in the 14th Amendment 3rd section requires a Constitutional Amendment approved by the house and senate.

the democrat Party: we have to protect our Mockracy by denying our political opponents the candidate of their choice

 

[JoeB131]

Not by that much. Get a fucking clue, the 2020 Presidential election was stolen and the people that represent us let it happen and are still covering their asses with lawfare,

Nope, Trump was thrown out of office for criminal incompetence. Even Republicans were secretly happy to see him lose.

But you all just can't admit you made a mistake, and you are running him again!

 

[Cellblock2429]

Nope, Trump was thrown out of office for criminal incompetence. Even Republicans were secretly happy to see him lose.

But you all just can't admit you made a mistake, and you are running him again!

/——-/ Again with hyperbole. Geeeze. 71,000,000 +++ patriotic Americans say Trump was a better president than your clusterf*ck assclown, Drmentia Joe.

 

[Lastamender]

Nope, Trump was thrown out of office for criminal incompetence. Even Republicans were secretly happy to see him lose.

But you all just can't admit you made a mistake, and you are running him again!

There was nothing secret about Republicans that did not want Trump. Try leaving your house you might learn something.

 

[Cellblock2429]

There was nothing secret about Republicans that did not want Trump. Try leaving your house you might learn something.

/——-/ I’m well aware of the Never Trumpers since 2016. They are a minority, but some are in Congress.

 

[para bellum]

Uh, the numbers are kind of meaningless, because they ALWAYS grow. Obama got more than Bush, Bush got more than Clinton, Clinton got more than Reagan.

Reagan got more votes in 1984 than Clinton got in either of his elections. Bush 41 got more votes in 1988 than Clinton in either election. Obama got LESS votes in his re-election than when he was elected the first time around.

The combined totals for the 2 major parties since 2008:
2008 125.5 MIllion
2012 126.8 Million
2016 128.8 Million
2020 155.5 Million

 

[Michael1985]

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

The above does not say an individual cannot run for office, neither does it suggest use of a 5th amendment bypass of the 14th Amendment

However it does say No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Thus we can say sure Trump can run BUT he cannot hold any office with within the federal,state or local offices of government.

To alter anything that is said in the 14th Amendment 3rd section requires a Constitutional Amendment approved by the house and senate.

Ummm... this has been discussed ad nauseum on here already. I'm really not sure what you have to say that hasn't been said as it is, and why you couldn't just have added to any of the numerous other threads that already exist about this.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

The above does not say an individual cannot run for office, neither does it suggest use of a 5th amendment bypass of the 14th Amendment

However it does say No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Thus we can say sure Trump can run BUT he cannot hold any office with within the federal,state or local offices of government.

To alter anything that is said in the 14th Amendment 3rd section requires a Constitutional Amendment approved by the house and senate.

You have to be convicted of something first. He hasn't. There's the problem. The Supreme Court can't convict him, it's not their job.

 

[rampart]

I think the problem here is that it would require congress to actually do it's job and hold Trump accountable.

Two impeachments show they can't do that.

I couldn't imagine that if Trump somehow won the Presidency, the Republicans in Congress would hold him accountable then.

the problem with this entire line of reasoning is that once "the people have spoken," (by trump's 26-24 win in the house of reps) the supremes nor anyone else will change those results,

 

[rampart]

You have to be convicted of something first. He hasn't. There's the problem. The Supreme Court can't convict him, it's not their job.

were any confederates convicted of insurrection? robt e lee could have been president?

 

[Markle]

Except it isn't about myself.

Trump is bad for the country, period, because he doesn't respect the norms of a democratic republic.

And you guys want to put him back into power with absolutely nothing to keep him in check.

Ignoring all the damage he did the last time he was in.

 

[frigidweirdo]

were any confederates convicted of insurrection? robt e lee could have been president?

Yeah, he probably could have done. Obviously they wouldn't have let him do it.

He was indicted, but then the charges were dropped. Had he decided to pursue a political career, I'm sure he'd have been indicted again.

There was a threat hanging over their heads.... they took the hint.

That Lee was indicted and Trump hasn't been indicted shows there's a problem for anyone who wants to get Trump for treason.

 

[Markle]

They only rioted becaue Trump encouraged and enabled police misconduct.

More people kept dying because Trump actively resisted any attempts to contain the virus. Thankfully, Biden got it under control.

A "gentle" reminder of the FACTS for those with a foggy memory.

Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.

'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.

“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.

WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'

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Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran
JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

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Nolte: A Mere 8 Days Ago Joe Biden Was Still Attacking Trump’s Travel Bans
JOHN NOLTE 20 Mar 2020

A mere eight days ago, Joe Biden was still vocally opposing President Donald Trump’s travel bans from Europe, and even China, as racist. In other words, if Biden was the president, we can’t begin to imagine how much worse things would look in American today thanks to President Biden’s refusal to keep people out from the very same places where the Chinese coronavirus rages.

https://www.breitbart.com/.../nolte-mere-8-days-ago-joe.../

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Nancy Pelosi visits San Francisco’s Chinatown to encourage people amid fears of coronavirus
by: Charles Clifford
Posted: Feb 24, 2020 / 05:57 PM PST / Updated: Feb 24, 2020 / 05:57 PM PST

SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. (KRON) – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was in San Francisco on Monday spending several hours visiting Chinatown to encourage people to visit the shops and restaurants there amid fears of the coronavirus.

Business in Chinatown has really slowed down over the last month, mainly due to concerns about the coronavirus.

Pelosi did a walking tour of the area starting in the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Shop.

She also visited several other businesses and talked to people.

Neighbors, including the owner of the cookie shop, who says the last month has been difficult.

“Business is slow. People don’t want to come, they are scared,” Kevin Chan said.

Pelosi also took this opportunity to encourage people to come back to Chinatown.

“You should come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken by our city. We know there is concern about tourism throughout the world but we think it’s very safe to be in Chinatown and hopefully, others will come,” Pelosi said.

Nancy Pelosi visits San Francisco’s Chinatown to encourage people amid fears of coronavirus

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WATCH: NYC Mayor de Blasio Gets Nailed for Telling New Yorkers to Ignore the Wuhan Coronavirus
Beth Bauman
Posted: Mar 29, 2020 1:35 PM

On Sunday, CNN's Jake Tapper put New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) on blast for telling New Yorkers not to worry about the Wuhan coronavirus. Tapper played four separate clips of de Blasio encouraging New Yorkers to go about their daily lives, even as recently as March 13th, less than two weeks ago.

"In retrospect, is that message, at least in part, to blame for how rapidly the virus has spread across the city?" Tapper asked.

De Blasio instantly deflected.

"You know, Jake, we should not be focusing, in my view, on anything looking back, on any level of government right now," the mayor explained. "This is just about how we save lives going forward. We are all working – everybody – is working with the information we had and trying, of course, to avoid panic.

WATCH: NYC Mayor de Blasio Gets Nailed for Telling New Yorkers to Ignore the Wuhan Coronavirus

Boom.

townhall.com

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Published March 18, 2020
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus

The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet.

The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.

"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the organization had said.

It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.

WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus

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Nursing homes have ‘no right’ to reject coronavirus patients, Cuomo says
By Bernadette Hogan and Bruce Golding
April 23, 2020 | 5:04pm

New York’s nursing homes weren’t allowed to challenge a controversial order to admit patients with the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Thursday — even though it’s been blamed for spreading the deadly disease among residents

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo said during his daily briefing in Albany.

Nursing homes have ‘no right’ to reject coronavirus patients, Cuomo says

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo said during his daily briefing in Albany.

nypost.com

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New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy
By BERNARD CONDON, MATT SEDENSKY and MEGHAN HOYER August 11, 2020

New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

That statistic could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But so far the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing better than other states and to make a tragic situation less dire

“That’s a problem, bro,” state Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Democrat, told New York Health Commissioner Howard Zucker during a legislative hearing on nursing homes earlier this month. “It seems, sir, that in this case you are choosing to define it differently so that you can look better.”

New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy

NEW YORK (AP) — Riverdale Nursing Home in the Bronx appears, on paper, to have escaped the worst of the coronavirus pandemic, with an official state count of just four deaths in its 146-bed facility.

apnews.com

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Remember when Biden said travel bans were “xenophobic?” He just instituted a travel ban on India.
Posted by: Pat Droney May 1, 2021

WASHINGTON, DC- Remember when President Trump implemented a travel ban last year and Biden accused him of “hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering?” Yeah, good times. Apparently Biden forgot…or he’s an abject hypocrite. Probably a little of both.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...bic-he-just-instituted-a-travel-ban-on-india/

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Biden restricts travel from South Africa and seven other countries starting Monday
By Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 9:10 PM ET, Fri November 26, 2021

(CNN)President Joe Biden announced Friday the US will restrict travel from South Africa and seven other countries starting Monday as a new coronavirus variant has emerged.

Biden restricts travel from South Africa and seven other countries starting Monday

President Joe Biden announced Friday the US will restrict travel from South Africa and seven other countries starting Monday as a new coronavirus variant has emerged.

www.cnn.com

 

[Markle]

Republicans demolishing the middle class over the last 40 years is my problem. Even though I have diversified my income sources and only have a few years left in the workforce, they've made it a lot harder for regular folks compared to when the above-mentioned German Immigrant was able to join a union and provide for his family.

 

[Markle]

How is it obvious that people want Trump? He lost the election by millions of votes.

 

[JoeB131]

/——-/ Again with hyperbole. Geeeze. 71,000,000 +++ patriotic Americans say Trump was a better president than your clusterf*ck assclown, Drmentia Joe.

No, 71 million Americans couldn't admit they made a mistake.

 

[Cellblock2429]

No, 71 million Americans couldn't admit they made a mistake.

/----/ We made no mistake. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
Meanwhile, your guy finally got it right when he called them illegals.