What do liberals want the US to be?

[PaintMyHouse]

PMH. I understand why you have him on ignore. I've considered doing that myself, but I have a policy of never putting anyone on ignore.

The ignore button is only for pussies.

Well you are a pussy, so I guess we should use the ignore button on you.

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

 

[kaz]

Hmmm, no, that's only part of the picture. The plans offered on the exchange are more expensive for buyers who aren't near the poverty line in order to subsidize those who are eligible for subsidies.

MORE bullshit. Shocking., THE SUBSIDIES are covered by Gov't. Doesn't matter WHERE you are on the line, the lower you are, the more GOV'T SUBSIDY GOES TO THE INSURANCE COMP!!!!

damn but you are stupid. the govt has to collect the money, or borrow it, before it can pay it to the insurance companies as subsidies. The govt has only 3 sources of money--------1. taxes, 2. borrowing, 3. printing.

You agree then, insurance comps aren't subsidizing the poor. Thanks

of course they are subsidizing the poor, do you know what the word "subsidy" means?

Why wouldn't we want to subsidize the poor on something as important as healthcare

Have you no soul?

So why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and do it instead of passing the buck to the most wasteful, incompetent solution, government? Have you no soul?

 

[kaz]

The ignore button is only for pussies.

Well you are a pussy, so I guess we should use the ignore button on you.

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

 

[Redfish]

Hmmm, no, that's only part of the picture. The plans offered on the exchange are more expensive for buyers who aren't near the poverty line in order to subsidize those who are eligible for subsidies.

MORE bullshit. Shocking., THE SUBSIDIES are covered by Gov't. Doesn't matter WHERE you are on the line, the lower you are, the more GOV'T SUBSIDY GOES TO THE INSURANCE COMP!!!!

damn but you are stupid. the govt has to collect the money, or borrow it, before it can pay it to the insurance companies as subsidies. The govt has only 3 sources of money--------1. taxes, 2. borrowing, 3. printing.

You agree then, insurance comps aren't subsidizing the poor. Thanks

of course they are subsidizing the poor, do you know what the word "subsidy" means?

Why wouldn't we want to subsidize the poor on something as important as healthcare

Have you no soul?

we always have, no one in the USA was denied medical care before ACA, NO ONE.

being uninsured did not mean being untreated. ACA accomplished nothing.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Well you are a pussy, so I guess we should use the ignore button on you.

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

we always have, no one in the USA was denied medical care before ACA, NO ONE.

I guess Reagan passed the ER law for no reason then? What an asshole.

 

[kaz]

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

 

[kaz]

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

What they did matters very fucking little now dummy. They were men not gods. It's written on paper not carved in stone. It can be changed, the entire form of government can be changed, they expected us to make changes which you would know if you'd learn about them beyond your Ayn Rand Sunday School Americanism.

 

[RKMBrown]

Hmmm, no, that's only part of the picture. The plans offered on the exchange are more expensive for buyers who aren't near the poverty line in order to subsidize those who are eligible for subsidies.

MORE bullshit. Shocking., THE SUBSIDIES are covered by Gov't. Doesn't matter WHERE you are on the line, the lower you are, the more GOV'T SUBSIDY GOES TO THE INSURANCE COMP!!!!

damn but you are stupid. the govt has to collect the money, or borrow it, before it can pay it to the insurance companies as subsidies. The govt has only 3 sources of money--------1. taxes, 2. borrowing, 3. printing.

You agree then, insurance comps aren't subsidizing the poor. Thanks

of course they are subsidizing the poor, do you know what the word "subsidy" means?

Why wouldn't we want to subsidize the poor on something as important as healthcare

Have you no soul?

Do we not already have medicaid and chips? YES OR NO?

 

[RKMBrown]

The ignore button is only for pussies.

Well you are a pussy, so I guess we should use the ignore button on you.

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

ROFL no they were not like you.

 

[kaz]

The liberals who founded this nation were nothing like you. Today we are libertarians. You only use the word.

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

What they did matters very fucking little now dummy. They were men not gods. It's written on paper not carved in stone. It can be changed, the entire form of government can be changed, they expected us to make changes which you would know if you'd learn about them beyond your Ayn Rand Sunday School Americanism.

No idea what that's supposed to mean. I support what they wrote, you oppose everything they wrote. But you are saying that because you use the name liberal, you are their heir, even though you oppose all their views. Got anything related to that?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They weren't Libertarians dumbass, nothing like it. Those are selfish toddlers they would have kicked in the ass and sent back to school. Just a bunch of dipshits still sucking on Ayn Rand's cock.

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

What they did matters very fucking little now dummy. They were men not gods. It's written on paper not carved in stone. It can be changed, the entire form of government can be changed, they expected us to make changes which you would know if you'd learn about them beyond your Ayn Rand Sunday School Americanism.

No idea what that's supposed to mean. I support what they wrote, you oppose everything they wrote. But you are saying that because you use the name liberal, you are their heir, even though you oppose all their views. Got anything related to that?

You don't support shit, and you don't know shit. No Liberal looks back 230 years and says Hey, let's live just like they did you fucking dummy. That's what makes you a reactionary, and a fucking stupid one.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Well you are a pussy, so I guess we should use the ignore button on you.

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

ROFL no they were not like you.

I'm a lot smarter than they were but we roll the same way, into the future, not into the past.

 

[kaz]

funny how libs always resort to juvenile insults when defeated by facts, logic, and common sense.

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

ROFL no they were not like you.

I'm a lot smarter than they were but we roll the same way, into the future, not into the past.

OMG, we've been doing this ourselves. I just realized, government does it better! They make better choices! Socialism creates more capitalism than capitalism! They ended poverty, discrimination, unfairness! Healthcare is now cheaper while providing better care to everyone! Women don't need abortions anymore, no one wants to have sex without having access to birth control It's fantastic guys! Government makes kitty litter not smell and the kitchen floor not sticky! It's great! I'm so smart for realizing it!

Yeah, sure you are, Einstein.

 

[kaz]

Read the Constitution, there is nothing about your socialist State and there is everything about limited government.

You may also want to Google what the word "Federal" means.

There is no way they were like you. None.

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

What they did matters very fucking little now dummy. They were men not gods. It's written on paper not carved in stone. It can be changed, the entire form of government can be changed, they expected us to make changes which you would know if you'd learn about them beyond your Ayn Rand Sunday School Americanism.

No idea what that's supposed to mean. I support what they wrote, you oppose everything they wrote. But you are saying that because you use the name liberal, you are their heir, even though you oppose all their views. Got anything related to that?

You don't support shit, and you don't know shit. No Liberal looks back 230 years and says Hey, let's live just like they did you fucking dummy. That's what makes you a reactionary, and a fucking stupid one.

Strawman, I never said anything about living "just like they did," you fucking retard. I talked about limited government and why they wanted it and it still applies today. You aren't saving us, you are destroying us.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

None of which you have ever been capable of presenting, asswipe.

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

ROFL no they were not like you.

I'm a lot smarter than they were but we roll the same way, into the future, not into the past.

OMG, we've been doing this ourselves. I just realized, government does it better! They make better choices! Socialism creates more capitalism than capitalism! They ended poverty, discrimination, unfairness! Healthcare is now cheaper while providing better care to everyone! Women don't need abortions anymore, no one wants to have sex without having access to birth control It's fantastic guys! Government makes kitty litter not smell and the kitchen floor not sticky! It's great! I'm so smart for realizing it!

Yeah, sure you are, Einstein.

Yep, you're a total fucking moron. Carry on asshole.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I know it dumbass, my people wrote it, only we 230 years smarter than they were. They created the government that fit their needs and we are doing the same, just as they expected.

You are a reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans.

230 years made them reverse positions on every issue and want to maximize rather than minimize government, so you are like them, and people who actually support what they did are nothing like them, we are "reactionary, like the dumbest of Americans." The people who think what they did, that government power should be limited and divided with the States.

You need to type your crap down and read it sometimes before you click enter. Like here.

What they did matters very fucking little now dummy. They were men not gods. It's written on paper not carved in stone. It can be changed, the entire form of government can be changed, they expected us to make changes which you would know if you'd learn about them beyond your Ayn Rand Sunday School Americanism.

No idea what that's supposed to mean. I support what they wrote, you oppose everything they wrote. But you are saying that because you use the name liberal, you are their heir, even though you oppose all their views. Got anything related to that?

You don't support shit, and you don't know shit. No Liberal looks back 230 years and says Hey, let's live just like they did you fucking dummy. That's what makes you a reactionary, and a fucking stupid one.

Strawman, I never said anything about living "just like they did," you fucking retard. I talked about limited government and why they wanted it and it still applies today. You aren't saving us, you are destroying us.

I'm doing nothing of the kind and it's my fucking country so if you don't like then get out!

 

[kaz]

Yes, your mind is open. As soon as anyone disproves liberalism without contradicting the inherent truth of liberalism, then you will get it and change your view.

Liberals, like me, founded this nation. If you don't like then get the fuck out of country.

ROFL no they were not like you.

I'm a lot smarter than they were but we roll the same way, into the future, not into the past.

OMG, we've been doing this ourselves. I just realized, government does it better! They make better choices! Socialism creates more capitalism than capitalism! They ended poverty, discrimination, unfairness! Healthcare is now cheaper while providing better care to everyone! Women don't need abortions anymore, no one wants to have sex without having access to birth control It's fantastic guys! Government makes kitty litter not smell and the kitchen floor not sticky! It's great! I'm so smart for realizing it!

Yeah, sure you are, Einstein.

Yep, you're a total fucking moron. Carry on asshole.

I'm just looking at the reality of "liberal" and you're still going by the marketing literature.