What Does the American Flag Mean to the World?

[Weatherman2020]

White Supremacy Has Never Been Fringe

Of course it has. Over time explicitly racist groups like the Klan and Nazis have become more and more marginalized
and held is disrepute until today there are a tiny isolated minority.
You are an asshole. A cut and paste asshole who never justifies b.s. but just jumps from citation to citation in a cut and paste chain of unsubstantiated claims.

Of course it has. Over time explicitly racist groups like the Klan and Nazis have become more and more marginalized
and held is disrepute until today there are a tiny isolated minority.
You are an asshole. A cut and paste asshole who never justifies b.s. but just jumps from citation to citation in a cut and paste chain of unsubstantiated claims.

Here's some more cut and paste, Loon; have someone read it to you since you obviously can't manage that without help:

White Supremacy Has Never Been Fringe

"Federal laws against lynching never passed in large part because many officials in Washington, up to and including sitting presidents, were themselves sympathetic to white supremacy or reluctant to pick a fight with Southern lawmakers and voters.

"Which is to say: it has historically been politically inconvenient for government officials to confront violent white supremacy.

Anyone with a single neuron firing can see how mainstream white supremacy is today in the land of MAGA.

Bahamas Dorian survivor: 'Please, please somebody help us' - CNN

"This is in large part because it is impossible to find any period in American politics in which the notion that there should be a racial order with white people at the top, or the idea that the United States is and should remain a country for white people, has not enjoyed a robust mainstream constituency."

Congrats on being the goofiest poster on USMB.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Only within the context of ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’.

Nah bullshit.

Supply the examples.

They backed Moubarak for example.
Go find an explanation.

The alternative was the Muslim brotherhood.

Nope wrong. There weren't close to power.
The US stood silent on both occasions one when the Egyptians elected the brotherhood democratically and also when the army executed the coup.

Take that up with Obama. It’s obvious that backing Mubārak would be in the best interest of the US and not pro-muslim terrorism.

 

[georgephillip]

You must be the dumbest AND the saltiest cracker in the box, Cracker.
You claimed white supremacists on the streets of Charlottsville in 2017 didn't define an America that "has corrected and long since moved past the sin of slavery" when, in fact, capitalism and white supremacy continue to oppress and alienate people of color today in ways similar to the effects of chattel slavery and Jim Crow.

And you must be the dumbest dumb fuck ever to come out of a junior college social justice club.
Mandatory Minimums and Sentencing Reform — Criminal Justice Policy Foundation
Where problems exist they are addressed.

And you must be the dumbest dumb fuck ever to come out of a junior college social justice club.
Mandatory Minimums and Sentencing Reform — Criminal Justice Policy Foundation
Where problems exist they are addressed.

So...I guess you're smart enough to explain how addressing sentencing reform affects the 94% of prison inmates who never received a jury trial?

Plea bargains – the unfair difference between 10 years and life

 

[georgephillip]

We hear so many times how the Left wring their hands in angst about world opinion.
Scenes from Hong Kong:

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Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Trump the crony-capitalist knows full well which side delivers his Chinese patents.

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1]

"Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2]"

State capitalism - Wikipedia

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Marxist economics

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We hear so many times how the Left wring their hands in angst about world opinion.
Scenes from Hong Kong:

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Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Trump the crony-capitalist knows full well which side delivers his Chinese patents.

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1]

"Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2]"

State capitalism - Wikipedia

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Marxist economics

LMAO and?

 

[georgephillip]

Your ignorance nearly matches your arrogance, Butch:

Slavery Made America

"...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what? What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."

How does any of this dubious cut and paste apply to or contradict what I posted?
You must work very hard to remain so ignorant and in your bubble.

How does any of this dubious cut and paste apply to or contradict what I posted?
You must work very hard to remain so ignorant and in your bubble.

You must be the dumbest AND the saltiest cracker in the box, Cracker.
You claimed white supremacists on the streets of Charlottsville in 2017 didn't define an America that "has corrected and long since moved past the sin of slavery" when, in fact, capitalism and white supremacy continue to oppress and alienate people of color today in ways similar to the effects of chattel slavery and Jim Crow.

The Drug War, Mass Incarceration and Race (English/Spanish)
fyi: it's never too late to try college.

What the fuck? Could it possibly be they commit the crimes?

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What the fuck? Could it possibly be they commit the crimes?

If it's true 94% of US prison inmates have never received a trial, how would we know if they committed a crime?

I was just reading about that yesterday, a few days ago? I think it was kavanaugh that was commenting on it, every one now a days takes plea bargains and dont dare take it to trial.


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I was just reading about that yesterday, a few days ago? I think it was kavanaugh that was commenting on it, every one now a days takes plea bargains and dont dare take it to trial.

Unless a defendant has the resources to attract top-level legal representation, she faces a very simple choice between a plea deal or jury trial:

Plea bargains – the unfair difference between 10 years and life

 

[georgephillip]

Can you spot any familiar faces?

No. Is a small band of miscreants and losers in Charlottesville supposed to define America as it has corrected and
long since moved past the sin of slavery (which was never embraced outside of the deep South) as I documented?

Get a life, Junior. You are a hateful squalid little turd.

He’s just envious that America is the greatest nation in history.

He’s just envious that America is the greatest nation in history.

White Supremacy Has Never Been Fringe

No one has to be mean to another person - due to their race.
But, correct it has never been fringe - White Societies will always have superior results

No one has to be mean to another person - due to their race.
But, correct it has never been fringe - White Societies will always have superior results

Superior results based on what metrics, technology and greed?

White Supremacy Has Never Been Fringe

"In September of 1885, a mob of about 150 white men, armed with rifles, descended upon the Chinatown in Rock Springs, Wyo. They issued an ultimatum to the people who lived there: you have an hour to leave town.

"The assembled horde was angry at Chinese laborers in the region, who they blamed for keeping the choicest mining areas and depressing their wages.

"They felt that the Chinese were working the choicest areas of the coal mines, the part that would yield the most coal and thus the most compensation.

"The Chinese, they felt, were taking what was rightfully theirs.

"The ultimatum was a formality: the mob had surrounded the neighborhood to make sure there was no easy way to escape, and they didn't even wait the full hour. The mob rushed in, shooting wildly — the beginning of what would become a full-on pogrom."

 

[georgephillip]

Can you spot any familiar faces?

No. Is a small band of miscreants and losers in Charlottesville supposed to define America as it has corrected and
long since moved past the sin of slavery (which was never embraced outside of the deep South) as I documented?

Get a life, Junior. You are a hateful squalid little turd.

No. Is a small band of miscreants and losers in Charlottesville supposed to define America as it has corrected and
long since moved past the sin of slavery (which was never embraced outside of the deep South) as I documented?

Get a life, Junior. You are a hateful squalid little turd.

Your ignorance nearly matches your arrogance, Butch:

Slavery Made America

"...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what? What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."

Slaves were cheap labor. They didn’t make squat.
American ingenuity and ambition made America.

Slaves were cheap labor. They didn’t make squat.
American ingenuity and ambition made America.

Human labor made America just like every other society in history, and "free" labor was a big part of US economic expansion during the first century of its existence.

The lifestyle you and I enjoy today was built on chattel slavery and genocide.

The Economics of the Civil War

"The Northern states also had a huge economic stake in slavery and the cotton trade.

"The first half of the nineteenth century witnessed an enormous increase in the production of short-staple cotton in the South, and most of that cotton was exported to Great Britain and Europe. Figure 2 charts the growth of cotton exports from 1815 to 1860.

"By the mid 1830s, cotton shipments accounted for more than half the value of all exports from the United States.

"Note that there is a marked similarity between the trends in the export of cotton and the rising value of the slave population depicted in Figure 1.

"There could be little doubt that the prosperity of the slave economy rested on its ability to produce cotton more efficiently than any other region of the world."

Yada, yada, yada. Labor is overhead. Vision is what drives success.

Yada, yada, yada. Labor is overhead. Vision is what drives success.

What sort of "vision" sees chattel slavery as an ingredient of success?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

So...I guess you're smart enough to explain how addressing sentencing reform affects the 94% of prison inmates who never received a jury trial?

Start a thread about it. Maybe someone will know. If someone simply pleads guilty to drug crimes it doesn't say much for their belief in their own innocence, does it.

 

[sparky]

What Does the American Flag Mean to the World?

>>>

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

~S~

 

[georgephillip]

We hear so many times how the Left wring their hands in angst about world opinion.
Scenes from Hong Kong:

View attachment 278253 View attachment 278254 View attachment 278255 View attachment 278256 View attachment 278257 View attachment 278258 View attachment 278259 View attachment 278260

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Trump the crony-capitalist knows full well which side delivers his Chinese patents.

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1]

"Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2]"

State capitalism - Wikipedia

View attachment 278478

Marxist economics

LMAO and?

LMAO and?

Capitalism has outlived its usefulness.

Late capitalism - Wikipedia

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The NFL has no right to encourage its employees demonstrate fealty to a flag responsible for the death, maiming, and displacement of millions of innocent human beings since the end of WWII, Why would any rational person endorse 7 decades of war crimes?

The NFL has every right to do whatever they fucking want to.

As far as seven decades of "war crimes" you are like Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn....you entirely and exclusively fixate on the negative and your one sided myopia makes you blind for all practical purposes.

If your mother offended you one day or you caught her screwing the next door neighbor and you forever ceased to recognize anything she ever did of a good or useful nature that says more about you than her.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Makes ya wonder why the current administration has not voiced strong, unequivocal support for the protesters. Deal with China? Cash trumps freedom in a transactional, non-ideological president.

Trump the crony-capitalist knows full well which side delivers his Chinese patents.

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1]

"Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2]"

State capitalism - Wikipedia

View attachment 278478

Marxist economics

LMAO and?

LMAO and?

Capitalism has outlived its usefulness.

Late capitalism - Wikipedia

Georgie your fat fingers tired yet of scouting the web for useless memes?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hong Kong does not represent "the World".

Yes, it most certainly does too.

It represents who Americans USED to be.

No, I think we the people are still who we once were, we just have to remove a gangrenous limb.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The NFL has every right to do whatever they fucking want to.

And we have the right to get Congress to remove the NFLs exemption from the Trust Act.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Only within the context of ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’.

And we have paid for that support every time a leftwing snowflake has a ranting meltdown.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

And we have the right to get Congress to remove the NFLs exemption from the Trust Act.

Yes. Please do.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

No. Is a small band of miscreants and losers in Charlottesville supposed to define America as it has corrected and
long since moved past the sin of slavery (which was never embraced outside of the deep South) as I documented?

Get a life, Junior. You are a hateful squalid little turd.

No. Is a small band of miscreants and losers in Charlottesville supposed to define America as it has corrected and
long since moved past the sin of slavery (which was never embraced outside of the deep South) as I documented?

Get a life, Junior. You are a hateful squalid little turd.

Your ignorance nearly matches your arrogance, Butch:

Slavery Made America

"...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined.

"So, of course, the war was rooted in these two expanding and competing economies—but competing over what? What eventually tore asunder America's political culture was slavery's expansion into the Western territories."

Slaves were cheap labor. They didn’t make squat.
American ingenuity and ambition made America.

Slaves were cheap labor. They didn’t make squat.
American ingenuity and ambition made America.

Human labor made America just like every other society in history, and "free" labor was a big part of US economic expansion during the first century of its existence.

The lifestyle you and I enjoy today was built on chattel slavery and genocide.

The Economics of the Civil War

"The Northern states also had a huge economic stake in slavery and the cotton trade.

"The first half of the nineteenth century witnessed an enormous increase in the production of short-staple cotton in the South, and most of that cotton was exported to Great Britain and Europe. Figure 2 charts the growth of cotton exports from 1815 to 1860.

"By the mid 1830s, cotton shipments accounted for more than half the value of all exports from the United States.

"Note that there is a marked similarity between the trends in the export of cotton and the rising value of the slave population depicted in Figure 1.

"There could be little doubt that the prosperity of the slave economy rested on its ability to produce cotton more efficiently than any other region of the world."

Yada, yada, yada. Labor is overhead. Vision is what drives success.

Yada, yada, yada. Labor is overhead. Vision is what drives success.

What sort of "vision" sees chattel slavery as an ingredient of success?

Reduced overhead. Duh.
You must be a government worker.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Hong Kong does not represent "the World".

Yes, it most certainly does too.

It represents who Americans USED to be.

No, I think we the people are still who we once were, we just have to remove a gangrenous limb.

We are not at all the people we used to be.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hong Kong does not represent "the World".

Yes, it most certainly does too.

It represents who Americans USED to be.

No, I think we the people are still who we once were, we just have to remove a gangrenous limb.

We are not at all the people we used to be.

That is the gangrenous limb I spoke of.

Might get some strong anti-biotics, might have to cut it off.