Zone1 What is a person?

[alang1216]

So how is that not an example of intelligence is a functional advantage that aids survival since lack of intelligence leads to demise?

Words fail me. You get your science theories from a joke? Jokes on you then.

 

[alang1216]

What evolution have you seen?

I've never seen that. Have you?

 

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Words fail me. You get your science theories from a joke? Jokes on you then.

So you can't understand how intelligence is a functional advantage that leads to survival?

 

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I've never seen that. Have you?

That's my point. You say you have never seen evolution occur in one generation - although genetic mutations by definition must occur in one generation - while you say you have never seen any evolution. How can you argue you don't see evolution occurring in a single generation when you have never seen any evolution occurring?

 

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But if we want to "see" evolution, I'm afraid we are going to have to look at things which are less complex and have shorter life spans such as bacteria.

Bacteria evolve through a process called adaptive evolution, which is a combination of mutation and selection that allows bacterial species to adapt to environmental changes.

Basically what this is saying is that the bacteria which genetically mutate and adapt to changing conditions are the bacteria which survive. Note: In this example of evolution, all changes are due to genetic mutations. In other words, it's genetic mutations which drive change.

 

[alang1216]

So you can't understand how intelligence is a functional advantage that leads to survival?

I can't understand how anyone could use a joke as reality.

 

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I can't understand how anyone could use a joke as reality.

That's because you don't believe intelligence is a functional advantage that leads to survival.

 

[alang1216]

That's my point. You say you have never seen evolution occur in one generation - although genetic mutations by definition must occur in one generation - while you say you have never seen any evolution. How can you argue you don't see evolution occurring in a single generation when you have never seen any evolution occurring?

No mutations will ever allow a mother to give birth to offspring of another species. Period.

 

[alang1216]

That's because you don't believe intelligence is a functional advantage that leads to survival.

Please review my posts as that is exactly not what I have said.

 

[Cougarbear]

In your opinion, are all animals self-aware?

I would say yes. All animals have fear of being attacked and defend themselves. Self-preservation is being self-aware.

 

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No mutations will ever allow a mother to give birth to offspring of another species. Period.

So which mother did?

 

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Please review my posts as that is exactly not what I have said.

Then you should understand the concept behind the Darwin awards is that stupid dies. Which is another way of saying that smart lives.

 

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cafeteria style Catholics

Stop ignoring and misrepresenting.

That is complete and utter bullshit. Easily disproven. Not worth arguing over or addressing. It's out there. The truth. It's out there.

I'll post a few responses and leave it at that.

Science? The Church? Did the Mother Church (RCC) consider all human beings to be people? People being equal to each other?

Cafeteria style Catholics? You should be so lucky.

Th Father of the Big Bang is Georges Lemaître.
The Father of modern genetics is Gregor Mendel.
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin wrote the Phenomenon of Man which is probably the finest book written on evolution.

And on a more personal note, I've forgotten more science than you ever knew. So there's that.

 

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In your opinion, are all animals self-aware?

How would you know?

Does a fish know it's wet?

 

[alang1216]

So which mother did?

None. Ever.

 

[alang1216]

Then you should understand the concept behind the Darwin awards is that stupid dies. Which is another way of saying that smart lives.

Amusing anecdotes should not be confused with science.

 

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None. Ever.

So the new species magically appeared? It never came from any mother?

I'm not sure you understand what you are saying. Cause it sounds like you are saying God did it.

 

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Amusing anecdotes should not be confused with science.

Even when the amusing antidote is based upon intelligence being a functional advantage over stupidity?

 

[alang1216]

So the new species magically appeared? It never came from any mother?

I'm not sure you understand what you are saying. Cause it sounds like you are saying God did it.

No God involved. You're talking about an event that happens very slowly (it is only 'abrupt' in the fossil record) and gradually. There is no line that can be drawn.

Think of two continents colliding. The land on one side is slowly elevated from sea level to 20,000 feet. When does that land, which used to be at sea level become a mountain?

 

[alang1216]

Even when the amusing antidote is based upon intelligence being a functional advantage over stupidity?

Yes, even then.