What Is It You Think You Can't Do Because of Political Correctness?

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So here's how the forces of PC conduct a purge..

NY Times Drops "Illegals," As Fox Continues To Cling To Slur | Blog | Media Matters for America
NY Times Drops "Illegals," As Fox Continues To Cling To Slur


New York Times executive editor Bill Keller, currently an op-ed columnist for the paper, answered readers who have repeatedly criticized him and the paper of record for their incessant use of derogatory term "illegals." Keller shared a handful of emails from readers, including from one who noted that the term "reduces human beings to a status label, and a morally loaded one at that."
After consulting the paper's style book, which advised Times journalists to use "illegal immigrant ... rather than the sinister-sounding illegal alien," Keller contacted the Times' "arbiter of style and taste" Phil Corbett who explained that " 'illegals' as a shorthand noun has an unnecessarily pejorative tone, and it is routinely used by the anti-immigration side." Corbett added: "I think it's wise to steer clear."

Keller concluded:

""""Well, vigilant readers, the good news is, you seem to have gotten the style book updated. And I'll resist that particular shorthand in the future.""""""

Just takes a couple of folks "feeling uncomfortable" to get phrases actually banned in the NY Times evidently... And the AP UPS THE ANTE with removing "illegal IMMIGRANTS".. A cascade of Political Correctness driven solely by the Leftist will to "do good" and not offend...

And the BEST PART??? ANYONE that DARES to continue the practice of using the disgraced offensive phrase (like Fox News) is now ""SLURRING"".. A virtual twofer right there my buds...

AP Drops "Illegal Immigrant" From Style Book - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime

It's about time. The Associated Press has dropped the term "illegal immigrant" from its stylebook. It explains:

The stylebook no longer sanctions the term “illegal immigrant” or the use of “illegal” to describe a person. Instead, it tells users that “illegal” should describe only an action, such as living in or immigrating to a country illegally.

Why did we make the change? The discussions on this topic have been wide-ranging and include many people from many walks of life. (Earlier, they led us to reject descriptions such as “undocumented,” despite ardent support from some quarters, because it is not precise. A person may have plenty of documents, just not the ones required for legal residence

I stopped linking to articles using the word “illegal” in describing a person years ago and urge others do the same. For every news item on immigration, there are ten publications reporting it. Link to one who uses an acceptable rather than deprecated term in their coverage

There it is... The PC machine operates much the same as flash mobs or knock-out games.. Spreads both up and down the chain simultaneously..

Oh no! The NY TIMES doesnt have the right to stop using words! They are a victim of....

Ummm....Self Censorship? Then they called the use of the word "illegal" as a slur?!?! OMG!!! That must mean...IT IS A SLUR!! Because the NY TIMES said it was.

The NY Times also said that Flacaltenn was a shit eater. OMG look at Flacaltenn hes eating a shit sandwhich! Because the NY Times creates reality!

This lady once demanded that I call her cat Mr Snuggles. I was so distraught at being attacked by the PC police that I was forced to forever call him Mr Snuggles against my will

 

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The NY Times is stopping everyone from saying "Illegal Alien" says Flacaltenn

 

[flacaltenn]

The NY Times is stopping everyone from saying "Illegal Alien" says Flacaltenn

Will happen.. Already the use of those words is considered a slur.. And as I showed, The AP and USA Today, MediaMatters and various College orgs have jumped on the battlewagon.. How long d'yathink it will take before any media is called insensitive and racist for using those terms??

Still got your dick hanging out the window? Bad news is --- the wind chill got it hours ago..
You just dont feel your loss...

 

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The NY Times is stopping everyone from saying "Illegal Alien" says Flacaltenn

Will happen.. Already the use of those words is considered a slur.. And as I showed, The AP and USA Today, MediaMatters and various College orgs have jumped on the battlewagon.. How long d'yathink it will take before any media is called insensitive and racist for using those terms??

Still got your dick hanging out the window? Bad news is --- the wind chill got it hours ago..
You just dont feel your loss...

Hasnt happened and wont happen. You are not a victim. Say it! Say Illegal Alien right now proudly and with conviction.

Look fear straight in the eye!

When nothing happens to you...When your words escape your lips....When the world doesnt crumble. Know then dear boy, your fear is unwarranted

 

[flacaltenn]

I am not naive. You are a nut case. Thinking that there is some conspiracy among 1.7 billion people, that they are think the same and want the same thing, that being a Muslim means you think and act in lockstep with 1.7 billion other people? Only someone of mental incompetence would believe such an absurdity. Think about it. It is logically ridiculous. Even in the US, when it was a small country, the people, all or mostly all Christian, divided so much on slavery and other issues that they had a civil war and brother fought and killed brother over it. There is no way 1.7 BILLION people across the planet want the same thing, hold the same ideology about world domination. It is totally absurd.

It's damn near impossible for secular forces in Moslem countries to EVER make an impact on policy or which terrorist orgs they encourage or support. LARGELY because ISLAM has the home field advantage. Not hard to suppress pro-western ideals and ideas when you REFUSE to educate women, punish blasphemy with death, and hate any countryman who is not in your tribe..

It's systemic, it IS dangerous, but in terms of the OP --- it is NOT offensive or biased to point these facts out..

As for your "consensus" argument for the 1.78Bill Moslems..... Only 30% supported our revolution.. Most Germans were not ardent Nazis, and you never NEED a majority to create a 21st Century Islamic Caliphate in the Middle East..

First, they don't refuse to educate women. The vast, vast majority of Muslim countries educate women as much as they educate men. The idea that women are not educated in Muslim countries is a myth. They do not punish blasphemy with death. In that instance, you are referring to Saudi, which may do it, and if so, is probably the only Muslim country that does. As far as not educating women, you are talking about the Taliban, which was the only Muslim dictatorship that refused to educate women. The idea that they hate people not in their tribe? What the fuck are you talking about? Something about tribal differences in Somalia or Africa? Things that have to do with culture and not religion. You are totally ignorant of Islam world wide. The idea that there is some kind of plan for Islam to take over the world is based in paranoia, ignorance, intellectual limitation, foolishness, hatred/bigotry of Islam, and just plain being a nutso.

From the Wiki... Women in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a 2013 statement, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation noted that many Islamic member nations restrict education opportunities for girls.[42] UNICEF notes that out of 24 nations with less than 60% female primary enrolment rates, 17 were Islamic nations; more than half the adult population is illiterate in several Islamic countries, and the proportion reaches 70% among Muslim women.[43] Other scholars[44][45] claim Islamic nations have the world's highest gender gap in education. The 2012 World Economic Forum annual gender gap study finds the 17 out of 18 worst performing nations, out of a total of 135 nations, are the following members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Algeria, Jordan, Lebanon, (Nepal[46]), Turkey, Oman, Egypt, Iran, Mali, Morocco, Côte d'Ivoire, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen.[47]

Wouldn't be a top issue in the world -- if it was as rosy for women as you believe it is, there wouldn't be so much effort to rectify the problem.. Women may routinely recieve RELIGIOUS based education in some of these countries -- but opportunities for secular education are EXTREMELY restricted..

As for tribal conflicts --- are you not aware of the MAJOR rifts in Sunni and Shia regions? Do not know that most of the Arab internal conflicts are based on this? Millions dead over the decades because of it.. Toss in a couple Kurdish Regions, and various sub-tribes of Sunni and Shia and some long line silver spoon ROYALTIES like the Saudis have --- and you got a real mess.

 

[flacaltenn]

The NY Times is stopping everyone from saying "Illegal Alien" says Flacaltenn

Will happen.. Already the use of those words is considered a slur.. And as I showed, The AP and USA Today, MediaMatters and various College orgs have jumped on the battlewagon.. How long d'yathink it will take before any media is called insensitive and racist for using those terms??

Still got your dick hanging out the window? Bad news is --- the wind chill got it hours ago..
You just dont feel your loss...

Hasnt happened and wont happen. You are not a victim. Say it! Say Illegal Alien right now proudly and with conviction.

Look fear straight in the eye!

When nothing happens to you...When your words escape your lips....When the world doesnt crumble. Know then dear boy, your fear is unwarranted

What a theatrical turd you are.. Tell ya what.. Go get those words into a NY Times editorial. Bring it back here for me. Or ---- have the AP "edit" your remarks on immigration for "correctness".. OR -- try uttering that term at Cal Berserkeley or UCLA at a seminar or lecture..

They will dissappear like magic.. So might you..

 

[Esmeralda]

It's damn near impossible for secular forces in Moslem countries to EVER make an impact on policy or which terrorist orgs they encourage or support. LARGELY because ISLAM has the home field advantage. Not hard to suppress pro-western ideals and ideas when you REFUSE to educate women, punish blasphemy with death, and hate any countryman who is not in your tribe..

It's systemic, it IS dangerous, but in terms of the OP --- it is NOT offensive or biased to point these facts out..

As for your "consensus" argument for the 1.78Bill Moslems..... Only 30% supported our revolution.. Most Germans were not ardent Nazis, and you never NEED a majority to create a 21st Century Islamic Caliphate in the Middle East..

First, they don't refuse to educate women. The vast, vast majority of Muslim countries educate women as much as they educate men. The idea that women are not educated in Muslim countries is a myth. They do not punish blasphemy with death. In that instance, you are referring to Saudi, which may do it, and if so, is probably the only Muslim country that does. As far as not educating women, you are talking about the Taliban, which was the only Muslim dictatorship that refused to educate women. The idea that they hate people not in their tribe? What the fuck are you talking about? Something about tribal differences in Somalia or Africa? Things that have to do with culture and not religion. You are totally ignorant of Islam world wide. The idea that there is some kind of plan for Islam to take over the world is based in paranoia, ignorance, intellectual limitation, foolishness, hatred/bigotry of Islam, and just plain being a nutso.

From the Wiki... Women in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a 2013 statement, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation noted that many Islamic member nations restrict education opportunities for girls.[42] UNICEF notes that out of 24 nations with less than 60% female primary enrolment rates, 17 were Islamic nations; more than half the adult population is illiterate in several Islamic countries, and the proportion reaches 70% among Muslim women.[43] Other scholars[44][45] claim Islamic nations have the world's highest gender gap in education. The 2012 World Economic Forum annual gender gap study finds the 17 out of 18 worst performing nations, out of a total of 135 nations, are the following members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Algeria, Jordan, Lebanon, (Nepal[46]), Turkey, Oman, Egypt, Iran, Mali, Morocco, Côte d'Ivoire, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen.[47]

Wouldn't be a top issue in the world -- if it was as rosy for women as you believe it is, there wouldn't be so much effort to rectify the problem.. Women may routinely recieve RELIGIOUS based education in some of these countries -- but opportunities for secular education are EXTREMELY restricted..

As for tribal conflicts --- are you not aware of the MAJOR rifts in Sunni and Shia regions? Do not know that most of the Arab internal conflicts are based on this? Millions dead over the decades because of it.. Toss in a couple Kurdish Regions, and various sub-tribes of Sunni and Shia and some long line silver spoon ROYALTIES like the Saudis have --- and you got a real mess.

No, you are very, very wrong. My job is connected to education, and opportunities for women to be educated in Muslim countries are not ‘extremely’ restricted. The Taliban restricted it, but in general, it is not restricted in most areas of the world where Muslims live. I am very much cognizant of the divide between Sunni and Shia Muslims. This is not a tribal issue. They are not different tribes. It is no different than different sects of any religion seeing things differently. Just like Christians that have different sects: Protestants, Baptists, Evangelicals, and Mormons, etc. and so on. The real mess is your mind. What a truly catastrophic mess that is.

As well, Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity. What were Christians doing 600 years ago? Burning witches at the stake, for one thing. Counting how many angels fit on the head of a pin for another. Decapitating people as a way of capital punishment, as well as throwing them in lion pits to be eaten alive. Going on Crusades to dominate the world with Christianity. Invading non-Christian nations all over the world in order to rule and dominate them and treat the native peoples as savages and 2nd and 3rd class citizens. And women? Women were barefoot and pregnant, property of their husbands, uneducated, etc. Yep. Stop being so short sighted and self righteous.

Schooling in some of these countries has to do with economics, not with a government or Islamic policy. People have to pay for their children to go to school, and if they are poor, they will send the boy to school before the girl. If they have enoough money they will send both. Preferences for boys over girls was the same thing in the US and other countries around the world until very recently, within the past 100 years. As well, it is still the case in some Asian countries, such as China. This is not an issue of Islam not wanting women to be educated; it is an issue of economics.

 

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Will happen.. Already the use of those words is considered a slur.. And as I showed, The AP and USA Today, MediaMatters and various College orgs have jumped on the battlewagon.. How long d'yathink it will take before any media is called insensitive and racist for using those terms??

Still got your dick hanging out the window? Bad news is --- the wind chill got it hours ago..
You just dont feel your loss...

Hasnt happened and wont happen. You are not a victim. Say it! Say Illegal Alien right now proudly and with conviction.

Look fear straight in the eye!

When nothing happens to you...When your words escape your lips....When the world doesnt crumble. Know then dear boy, your fear is unwarranted

What a theatrical turd you are.. Tell ya what.. Go get those words into a NY Times editorial. Bring it back here for me. Or ---- have the AP "edit" your remarks on immigration for "correctness".. OR -- try uttering that term at Cal Berserkeley or UCLA at a seminar or lecture..

They will dissappear like magic.. So might you..

Ny Times Editorial has nothing to do with your 1st Amendment rights dude

 

[flacaltenn]

First, they don't refuse to educate women. The vast, vast majority of Muslim countries educate women as much as they educate men. The idea that women are not educated in Muslim countries is a myth. They do not punish blasphemy with death. In that instance, you are referring to Saudi, which may do it, and if so, is probably the only Muslim country that does. As far as not educating women, you are talking about the Taliban, which was the only Muslim dictatorship that refused to educate women. The idea that they hate people not in their tribe? What the fuck are you talking about? Something about tribal differences in Somalia or Africa? Things that have to do with culture and not religion. You are totally ignorant of Islam world wide. The idea that there is some kind of plan for Islam to take over the world is based in paranoia, ignorance, intellectual limitation, foolishness, hatred/bigotry of Islam, and just plain being a nutso.

From the Wiki... Women in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a 2013 statement, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation noted that many Islamic member nations restrict education opportunities for girls.[42] UNICEF notes that out of 24 nations with less than 60% female primary enrolment rates, 17 were Islamic nations; more than half the adult population is illiterate in several Islamic countries, and the proportion reaches 70% among Muslim women.[43] Other scholars[44][45] claim Islamic nations have the world's highest gender gap in education. The 2012 World Economic Forum annual gender gap study finds the 17 out of 18 worst performing nations, out of a total of 135 nations, are the following members of Organisation of Islamic Cooperation: Algeria, Jordan, Lebanon, (Nepal[46]), Turkey, Oman, Egypt, Iran, Mali, Morocco, Côte d'Ivoire, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen.[47]

Wouldn't be a top issue in the world -- if it was as rosy for women as you believe it is, there wouldn't be so much effort to rectify the problem.. Women may routinely recieve RELIGIOUS based education in some of these countries -- but opportunities for secular education are EXTREMELY restricted..

As for tribal conflicts --- are you not aware of the MAJOR rifts in Sunni and Shia regions? Do not know that most of the Arab internal conflicts are based on this? Millions dead over the decades because of it.. Toss in a couple Kurdish Regions, and various sub-tribes of Sunni and Shia and some long line silver spoon ROYALTIES like the Saudis have --- and you got a real mess.

No, you are very, very wrong. My job is connected to education, and opportunities for women to be educated in Muslim countries are not ‘extremely’ restricted. The Taliban restricted it, but in general, it is not restricted in most areas of the world where Muslims live. I am very much cognizant of the divide between Sunni and Shia Muslims. This is not a tribal issue. They are not different tribes. It is no different than different sects of any religion seeing things differently. Just like Christians that have different sects: Protestants, Baptists, Evangelicals, and Mormons, etc. and so on. The real mess is your mind. What a truly catastrophic mess that is.

As well, Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity. What were Christians doing 600 years ago? Burning witches at the stake, for one thing. Counting how many angels fit on the head of a pin for another. Decapitating people as a way of capital punishment, as well as throwing them in lion pits to be eaten alive. Going on Crusades to dominate the world with Christianity. Invading non-Christian nations all over the world in order to rule and dominate them and treat the native peoples as savages and 2nd and 3rd class citizens. And women? Women were barefoot and pregnant, property of their husbands, uneducated, etc. Yep. Stop being so short sighted and self righteous.

Schooling in some of these countries has to do with economics, not with a government or Islamic policy. People have to pay for their children to go to school, and if they are poor, they will send the boy to school before the girl. If they have enoough money they will send both. Preferences for boys over girls was the same thing in the US and other countries around the world until very recently, within the past 100 years. As well, it is still the case in some Asian countries, such as China. This is not an issue of Islam not wanting women to be educated; it is an issue of economics.

So you ignore -- from the Wiki article -- World Economic Forum, The United Nations, multiple scholarly referenced cites, and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.. OK.. Might as well ignore your own State Department.

Women and the Arab Spring

The Gender Gap
The World Economic Forum’s annual Gender Gap Reports show that the quality of economic and political participation for Arab women declined in the years leading up to the Arab Spring. No Arab country ranked above the bottom seventh in either the 2010 or 2011 report. The United Nations Development Programme’s own Arab Human Development Reports confirm that the exclusion of women from public life has been a prime factor undermining overall economic progress across the region.

According to the WEF, while some Arab countries have closed the educational attainment gap between men and women, the economic opportunity or participation and the political empowerment gaps grew steadily between 2006 and 2010. Even Tunisia, where women secured legal equality and the education gap has been closed for decades, ranked only 107 out of 134 countries in 2010. In the five years before the 2011 revolution, it had slipped 17 spots in the rankings.

The situation was worse in Egypt and Syria, where the economic position of women slipped every year from 2006 to 2010. And ever since the inception of the WEF Gender Gap Report, Yemen has consistently ranked at the bottom. Most Yemeni women remain illiterate and have very limited opportunities, with many living in confined conditions.

Really don't want to have to rank "your opinion" versus that truckload of references.. But I also don't want to get sidetracked from the discussion of this thread.. Here's what I originally asserted about PC treatment of International Muslims..

It's damn near impossible for secular forces in Moslem countries to EVER make an impact on policy or which terrorist orgs they encourage or support. LARGELY because ISLAM has the home field advantage. Not hard to suppress pro-western ideals and ideas when you REFUSE to educate women, punish blasphemy with death, and hate any countryman who is not in your tribe..

Think that's valid.. If blasphemy won't get you TOTALLY dead, in EVERY Muslim country, (and not only the government will be on your case), it'll certainly make your life useless or cost you a beating..

The Sunni -- Shia conflicts DID organize around ancient tribal lines. And no country that practices the following --- is capable of supporting pro-western concepts of freedom and equality..

Poll: Egypt is worst Arab state for women - Features - Al Jazeera English

Female genital mutilation is endemic in Egypt, where 91 percent of women and girls - 27.2 million in all - are subjected to cutting, according to UNICEF. Only Djibouti has a higher rate, with 93 percent of women and girls cut.

Go argue with AlJazeera about "your abundant opportunities" for women in Islamic nations.
Don't know whether your denial deal is ethnic or educational.. More probably, it's an epidemic of leftist denial in this entire thread..

 

[Redfish]

Everyone can celebrate Kwanzaa idiot. Go get some Kente Cloth and join in.

I'm sure you have the same problem with Hanukkah. Or is that cool because its white?

Why would I want to celebrate a made up racist holiday?

Hanukkah is racist? Cant wait for this explanation

I was talking about kwanzaa, idiot. Hanakkah is a religious holiday celebrated by jews.

Kwanzaa is a made up racist holiday celebrated by racist africans.

 

[Redfish]

Hasnt happened and wont happen. You are not a victim. Say it! Say Illegal Alien right now proudly and with conviction.

Look fear straight in the eye!

When nothing happens to you...When your words escape your lips....When the world doesnt crumble. Know then dear boy, your fear is unwarranted

What a theatrical turd you are.. Tell ya what.. Go get those words into a NY Times editorial. Bring it back here for me. Or ---- have the AP "edit" your remarks on immigration for "correctness".. OR -- try uttering that term at Cal Berserkeley or UCLA at a seminar or lecture..

They will dissappear like magic.. So might you..

Ny Times Editorial has nothing to do with your 1st Amendment rights dude

the term 'illegal alien' accurately describes a person who has entered our country illegally. The PC police are attempting to change the perception of those here illegally by limiting the use of that term.

It would be like calling an ax murderer a sharp object carrying undocumented injurer.

The PC goal is to minimize or ignore the crime by calling it some innocuous term.

Get it now?

 

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What a theatrical turd you are.. Tell ya what.. Go get those words into a NY Times editorial. Bring it back here for me. Or ---- have the AP "edit" your remarks on immigration for "correctness".. OR -- try uttering that term at Cal Berserkeley or UCLA at a seminar or lecture..

They will dissappear like magic.. So might you..

Ny Times Editorial has nothing to do with your 1st Amendment rights dude

the term 'illegal alien' accurately describes a person who has entered our country illegally. The PC police are attempting to change the perception of those here illegally by limiting the use of that term.

It would be like calling an ax murderer a sharp object carrying undocumented injurer.

The PC goal is to minimize or ignore the crime by calling it some innocuous term.

Get it now?

No one is stopping you from saying it and the NY Times doesnt owe you anything. They dont HAVE TO print something just because you want it.

I'll tell you like your mama used to say: People in hell want Ice Water. It aint about what you want Stop being a spoiled brat

 

[Redfish]

Ny Times Editorial has nothing to do with your 1st Amendment rights dude

the term 'illegal alien' accurately describes a person who has entered our country illegally. The PC police are attempting to change the perception of those here illegally by limiting the use of that term.

It would be like calling an ax murderer a sharp object carrying undocumented injurer.

The PC goal is to minimize or ignore the crime by calling it some innocuous term.

Get it now?

No one is stopping you from saying it and the NY Times doesnt owe you anything. They dont HAVE TO print something just because you want it.

I'll tell you like your mama used to say: People in hell want Ice Water. It aint about what you want Stop being a spoiled brat

You just refuse to get it. The GOVERNMENT is trying to control how we think about certain crimes or social agendas by renaming them.

Its not a free speech issue, you or I can still use whatever words we want. What it is is an attempt at thought control by calling crimes and criminals by some meaningless terms.

which is worse? illegal alien, undocumented worker, or foreign invader? Which most accurately describes a person who enters our country illegally and stays here in violation of our immigration laws?

Oh, I know-------it depends on what the illegal person is thinking. If he wants to blow up americans he is an illegal invader, if he just wants to feed his family he is an undocumented worker---------do you see how foolish this becomes?

 

[BlackSand]

the term 'illegal alien' accurately describes a person who has entered our country illegally. The PC police are attempting to change the perception of those here illegally by limiting the use of that term.

It would be like calling an ax murderer a sharp object carrying undocumented injurer.

The PC goal is to minimize or ignore the crime by calling it some innocuous term.

Get it now?

No one is stopping you from saying it and the NY Times doesnt owe you anything. They dont HAVE TO print something just because you want it.

I'll tell you like your mama used to say: People in hell want Ice Water. It aint about what you want Stop being a spoiled brat

My mother used to say ... "There is a right way and wrong way to do everything and it is up to you to ensure you choose the right path."
To deny there is a specific intent behind the move to identify "illegal aliens" as "undocumented workers" is not a sign of progress or responsibility.

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the term 'illegal alien' accurately describes a person who has entered our country illegally. The PC police are attempting to change the perception of those here illegally by limiting the use of that term.

It would be like calling an ax murderer a sharp object carrying undocumented injurer.

The PC goal is to minimize or ignore the crime by calling it some innocuous term.

Get it now?

No one is stopping you from saying it and the NY Times doesnt owe you anything. They dont HAVE TO print something just because you want it.

I'll tell you like your mama used to say: People in hell want Ice Water. It aint about what you want Stop being a spoiled brat

My mother used to say ... "There is a right way and wrong way to do everything and it is up to you to ensure you choose the right path."
To deny there is a specific intent behind the move to identify "illegal aliens" as "undocumented workers" is not a sign of progress or responsibility.

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Of course there is but no one is the victim of not being able to say it. No one is getting a hand put over their mouths.

They just WANT to pretend to be the victim of something

 

[Jarhead]

No one is stopping you from saying it and the NY Times doesnt owe you anything. They dont HAVE TO print something just because you want it.

I'll tell you like your mama used to say: People in hell want Ice Water. It aint about what you want Stop being a spoiled brat

My mother used to say ... "There is a right way and wrong way to do everything and it is up to you to ensure you choose the right path."
To deny there is a specific intent behind the move to identify "illegal aliens" as "undocumented workers" is not a sign of progress or responsibility.

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Of course there is but no one is the victim of not being able to say it. No one is getting a hand put over their mouths.

They just WANT to pretend to be the victim of something

I believe you are wrong.

Many want them to be referred to as illegal immigrants so we can have an honest debate about the issue.

Look what happened when the term "illegal" was eliminated....

The debate now seems to be more about how the GOP is anti immigration.

You seem bright. I am surprised you did not pick up on that.

 

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My mother used to say ... "There is a right way and wrong way to do everything and it is up to you to ensure you choose the right path."
To deny there is a specific intent behind the move to identify "illegal aliens" as "undocumented workers" is not a sign of progress or responsibility.

.

Of course there is but no one is the victim of not being able to say it. No one is getting a hand put over their mouths.

They just WANT to pretend to be the victim of something

I believe you are wrong.

Many want them to be referred to as illegal immigrants so we can have an honest debate about the issue.

Look what happened when the term "illegal" was eliminated....

The debate now seems to be more about how the GOP is anti immigration.

You seem bright. I am surprised you did not pick up on that.

You can refer to them as anything you want. The NY Times doesnt want to refer to them as Illegal Aliens. Now, should the NY Times do what you want simply because you want them too or can you not use those words simply because the NY Times wont publish it?

 

[Jarhead]

Of course there is but no one is the victim of not being able to say it. No one is getting a hand put over their mouths.

They just WANT to pretend to be the victim of something

I believe you are wrong.

Many want them to be referred to as illegal immigrants so we can have an honest debate about the issue.

Look what happened when the term "illegal" was eliminated....

The debate now seems to be more about how the GOP is anti immigration.

You seem bright. I am surprised you did not pick up on that.

You can refer to them as anything you want. The NY Times doesnt want to refer to them as Illegal Aliens. Now, should the NY Times do what you want simply because you want them too or can you not use those words simply because the NY Times wont publish it?

huh?

I'm not talking about the NYT.....I support freedom of the press 100%.....

I am explaining why POLITICIANS push to have "titles" changed...

And the illegal immigrant/undocumented worker transition by the WH was designed to do exactly what it did.....

Make it appear that the GOP is anti immigration.

I actually think it was well played by the White House

 

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I believe you are wrong.

Many want them to be referred to as illegal immigrants so we can have an honest debate about the issue.

Look what happened when the term "illegal" was eliminated....

The debate now seems to be more about how the GOP is anti immigration.

You seem bright. I am surprised you did not pick up on that.

You can refer to them as anything you want. The NY Times doesnt want to refer to them as Illegal Aliens. Now, should the NY Times do what you want simply because you want them too or can you not use those words simply because the NY Times wont publish it?

huh?

I'm not talking about the NYT.....I support freedom of the press 100%.....

I am explaining why POLITICIANS push to have "titles" changed...

And the illegal immigrant/undocumented worker transition by the WH was designed to do exactly what it did.....

Make it appear that the GOP is anti immigration.

I actually think it was well played by the White House

Wait, Are the republicans against immigration or do they support immigration?

 

[Mac1958]

Many want them to be referred to as illegal immigrants so we can have an honest debate about the issue.

Look what happened when the term "illegal" was eliminated....

The debate now seems to be more about how the GOP is anti immigration.

You seem bright. I am surprised you did not pick up on that.

Precisely. This is the PC that many want to pretend does not exist.

And how does it manifest? It makes honest debate over the issue impossible, because if you use the term "illegal immigrant", the PC Police immediately uses that as an excuse to put you on the defensive by diverting away from the issue to say (lie) that you are "anti-immigration" and, inevitably, "racist".

This is how the PC game is played, this is why the PC Police will deny its existence, and this is why it's impossible to have an honest conversation with them on multiple topics.

Their denials are lies, they know what they're doing. Fortunately, the lies are wearing very, very thin.

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