What is the problem with issuing a federal ID to everyone and making Voter ID a law?

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

 

[Dragonlady]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

Because that's not the point of the ID Laws, Colonel. In fact, what you're proposing is EXACTLY the opposite of what these ID laws are meant to accomplish.

Republicans don't want everyone to have ID. The want a super special kind of Republican ID that you can only get under circumstances and with extra special supporting documentation, and to make it as difficult as possible for certain segments of the population to vote. They don't want everyone to have it or be able to get it. That's the whole point of the voter ID laws.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

 

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

"Right" is a human creation. You're talking about evolutionary imperatives. AKA instincts.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

"Right" is a human creation. You're talking about evolutionary imperatives. AKA instincts.

its a human expression of what is inherent in all creatures,, self defense,,

 

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

 

[Dragonlady]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

Well it's obviously not a "natural right" of those who are born with no natural defenses, now is it? And if a non-human kills a human, they get put down really quick for doing so, even if the human was attacking them. Lots of women get jailed for killing their abusive spouses, even though doing so was an act of "self-defense".

It seems to me the "right" to self-defense only applies to only applies to white men, and everyone else has to prove it wasn't murder.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

Well it's obviously not a "natural right" of those who are born with no natural defenses, now is it? And if a non-human kills a human, they get put down really quick for doing so, even if the human was attacking them. Lots of women get jailed for killing their abusive spouses, even though doing so was an act of "self-defense".

It seems to me the "right" to self-defense only applies to only applies to white men, and everyone else has to prove it wasn't murder.

oh shut the fuck up you ignorant skank,, no body cares what you have to say,,,

 

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

 

[Dragonlady]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Yeah it does. "arms" is defined as "weapons and munitions" and guns are "munitions", but since you believe it doesn't cover guns, I'm all for that.

You'll still be able to arm yourself with a knife, crossbow, or slingshot, so you'll still be able to "bear arms". Just not semi-automatic weapons, handguns, or other people killers. Single shot rifles, shotguns, and other hunting guns yes.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

I support you having both,,

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Yeah it does. "arms" is defined as "weapons and munitions" and guns are "munitions", but since you believe it doesn't cover guns, I'm all for that.

You'll still be able to arm yourself with a knife, crossbow, or slingshot, so you'll still be able to "bear arms". Just not semi-automatic weapons, handguns, or other people killers. Single shot rifles, shotguns, and other hunting guns yes.

youre showing your ignorance again,, but since your an ignorant canadian that let your government take away your guns and then let chinese troops into your country with their guns its understandable,,

 

[InspectorDetector]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

Because that's not the point of the ID Laws, Colonel. In fact, what you're proposing is EXACTLY the opposite of what these ID laws are meant to accomplish.

Republicans don't want everyone to have ID. The want a super special kind of Republican ID that you can only get under circumstances and with extra special supporting documentation, and to make it as difficult as possible for certain segments of the population to vote. They don't want everyone to have it or be able to get it. That's the whole point of the voter ID laws.

I was around when the Social Security cards became MANDATORY. Back in. like 63 or thereabouts. There was talk of "Mark of the Beast" and the paranoia that goes along with it. All these years later, we all (legal citizens, that is) have SS cards.

It is the same with national ID cards. Only this time it is different. Fascists democrats do N OT want it - sim ply because it would stop the flow of the illegal voting. No other reason than that.

 

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

I support you having both,,

Bullshit. You do not support your neighbor having weapons of war like modern main battle tanks.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

I support you having both,,

Bullshit. You do not support your neighbor having weapons of war like modern main battle tanks.

of course I do,,

 

[Crepitus]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

I support you having both,,

Bullshit. You do not support your neighbor having weapons of war like modern main battle tanks.

of course I do,,

Then you're even more brain damaged than I thought you were.

 

[Dragonlady]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

Well it's obviously not a "natural right" of those who are born with no natural defenses, now is it? And if a non-human kills a human, they get put down really quick for doing so, even if the human was attacking them. Lots of women get jailed for killing their abusive spouses, even though doing so was an act of "self-defense".

It seems to me the "right" to self-defense only applies to only applies to white men, and everyone else has to prove it wasn't murder.

oh shut the fuck up you ignorant skank,, no body cares what you have to say,,,

Triggered again, Hunter????

I do resent somewhat being called a "skank", since I'm now at the age when such behaviour is hardly even possible for me, and finding a man my own age who can still get it up is difficult. I do have a couple of standing offers, but the men are far too young. One of them refers to me as a GILF. I had to ask my daughter what that meant.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

That theory is wrong.....

From the Heller decision.....

We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and Fourth Amendments, codified a pre-existing right.

The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.”

As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876), “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed . . . .”16

Same language is used in several voting rights amendment.

And it always cracks me up when you imply god gave you the right to own guns.

self defense dumbass,, thats why the 2nd doesnt mention guns,,

Oh, the second amendment isn't about guns? Well that's a relief. Bring on the gun control!

its about anything that can be used against you which includes guns dumbass,,,

"Anything which.can be used against you"?

So it's about my right to keep and bear a big stick?

And where's my Abrams?

I support you having both,,

Bullshit. You do not support your neighbor having weapons of war like modern main battle tanks.

of course I do,,

Then you're even more brain damaged than I thought you were.

opinions vary,, you voted to have joe biden have nuclear weapons,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

We are spending trillions of dollars on these stimulus bills. Why not take some of it and issue everyone a federal ID?

Now poor blacks can afford it.

What's the problem with issuing federal licensing for gun ownership?

its a constitutional right and not subject to a license,,,

So is voting.

no its not,, it took a congressional vote to get to vote..they can vote to take it away,. the 2nd comes from our humanity and cant be voted on legally,,

The 2nd was voted on as an amendment, and can be voted on to be amended.

That's why it's called an amendment, and not an entitlement.

Which means it can be voted to take away.

The 15th amendment, 19th amendment, and 26th amendment, are just as sacrosanct as the 2nd amendment, and can also be amended.

There is nothing special at all about the 2nd amendment, than any other amendment in the Constitution.

Correct.

In theory, the Constitution can be amended to repeal the Second Amendment.

total different process than taking away voting rights, because its not a right but a privilege given by government,,
the can remove the second but its still a right because self defense is a natural right,, voting isnt,,

That's odd, the constitution refers to both as rights.

"Natural rights" BTW are pseudo-intellectualism bullshit.

one of them is a lie,, a right doesnt require another persons input or participation,,,

Bullshit. Your "rights" are a product of your society. Nothing "natural" about it.

so self defense isnt a natural right of all gods creatures???

Well it's obviously not a "natural right" of those who are born with no natural defenses, now is it? And if a non-human kills a human, they get put down really quick for doing so, even if the human was attacking them. Lots of women get jailed for killing their abusive spouses, even though doing so was an act of "self-defense".

It seems to me the "right" to self-defense only applies to only applies to white men, and everyone else has to prove it wasn't murder.

oh shut the fuck up you ignorant skank,, no body cares what you have to say,,,

Triggered again, Hunter????

I do resent somewhat being called a "skank", since I'm now at the age when such behaviour is hardly even possible for me, and finding a man my own age who can still get it up is difficult. I do have a couple of standing offers, but the men are far too young. One of them refers to me as a GILF. I had to ask my daughter what that meant.

why a man your age?? any stiff dick can get in a wet hole,,, the best sex I had was with a 65 yr old women,,

I noticed you avoided the fact you had you guns taken away while you let chinese troops in carrying guns,,