What is the purpose of the universe?

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No. I'm a fan of red indians.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The USA changed the world history.

Yes, it did.

Stupid idea. You try to justify massmurder in wars how others speak about to use an umbrella.

Only because you don't understand it. I am not justifying anything. It is what it is. To argue that no good comes out of suffering is short sighted. In fact, I would argue that more good comes out of suffering than comes out of being satisfied.

Do you understand what you say here?

Yes, I absolutely do understand what I am saying there. Did you know what I was saying there?

If no argument helps any longer then try it with paranoia?

What argument did you believe I was making? Because I couldn't tell from your responses what argument you were making.

 

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I'm part of the universe...but the universe doesn't care, and it certainly isn't here to serve me...or you...or anyone.

If you are part of the universe and you care then the universe does care. I never said it was here to serve you. It exists to know itself.

It exists for no purpose.
We exist for no purpose.
That we contrive our own purpose for existence is for our own benefit.
The universe doesn't care what we do because it has no reason.

I think you've said that already.

I think you're right.

Then maybe it is time for you to tell me how you know.

You claim that the universe has a purpose...you would need evidence to know that.

 

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I am not so sure the universe has a purpose at all.

Maybye it all is just random is, rather than nothingness.

Random, but it is what it is.

Still the universe made the mistake of giving me thought and free will, so my purpose is to love.

Love every one last one of you, such and as much as I can.

And when I can't love you cocksuckers, I drink.

That, is the purpose of the universe, as I see it.

It takes a very complex ecosystem to create ethanol.

It takes a very complex creation to create beings that know and create.

Engineers 3 philosophers 0

And whatever the reason for this wonder of all wonders could be: is it really plausible to think it's without purpose?

No. It would be implausible to believe that this wonder of wonders was created without purpose. So besides expanding, lol, what do you believe that purpose might be?

You assume that it was created.
Since you can't prove that all your subsequent assertions are guesses.

 

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"Purpose" is something humans experience. No humans, no purpose.

If there was no purpose, then there would be no order.

order: the arrangement or disposition of people or things in relation to each other according to a particular sequence, pattern, or method.

method: a particular form of procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one.

Why do you assume there is order?
Things are destroyed and created every moment.

 

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"Purpose" is something humans experience. No humans, no purpose.

If there was no purpose, then there would be no order.

order: the arrangement or disposition of people or things in relation to each other according to a particular sequence, pattern, or method.

method: a particular form of procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one.

Why do you assume there is order?
Things are destroyed and created every moment.

Are you kidding? Everything is in nature is ordered. Small scale and large scale.

order in nature - Google Search

Top 10 List: Some More Examples of Order in Nature

Patterns Are Ordered -- Patterns In Nature, an on-line book

 

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If you are part of the universe and you care then the universe does care. I never said it was here to serve you. It exists to know itself.

It exists for no purpose.
We exist for no purpose.
That we contrive our own purpose for existence is for our own benefit.
The universe doesn't care what we do because it has no reason.

I think you've said that already.

I think you're right.

Then maybe it is time for you to tell me how you know.

You claim that the universe has a purpose...you would need evidence to know that.

We are the proof. We are the pinnacle of creation. Everything that has happened before us was necessary for us to be here. We are the final product. What else in the universe is more complex than us?

 

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"Purpose" is something humans experience. No humans, no purpose.

If there was no purpose, then there would be no order.

order: the arrangement or disposition of people or things in relation to each other according to a particular sequence, pattern, or method.

method: a particular form of procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one.

Why do you assume there is order?
Things are destroyed and created every moment.

I don't assume there is order. I know there is order. Why don't you know it? What exactly did you do today? Did you do things randomly or did you do things for a specific purpose. That is order.

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

 

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"Purpose" is something humans experience. No humans, no purpose.

If there was no purpose, then there would be no order.

order: the arrangement or disposition of people or things in relation to each other according to a particular sequence, pattern, or method.

method: a particular form of procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one.

Why do you assume there is order?
Things are destroyed and created every moment.

We know it was created. Without a shadow of doubt we know the universe had a beginning.

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Their religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man. It proceeds in almost all its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of an individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. They have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Their doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and communality or equality. The religious nature of socialism explains the extraordinary attraction to socialist doctrines and its capacity to inflame individuals and inspire popular movements and condemn respect for any who believe in Christianity. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. Their hostility towards traditional religions is that of an animosity between a rival religion. They can be identified by an external locus of control. They worship science but are the first to argue against it. They are modern American liberals.

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

That really is nothing new. Are you still making that ridiculous argument that there is no order in nature?

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

That really is nothing new. Are you still making that ridiculous argument that there is no order in nature?

Can I assume that you believe in God or some other higher being?
Can I also assume that you believe that this higher being created the universe?

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

That really is nothing new. Are you still making that ridiculous argument that there is no order in nature?

Can I assume that you believe in God or some other higher being?
Can I also assume that you believe that this higher being created the universe?

Let's say a Creator. How's that?

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

That really is nothing new. Are you still making that ridiculous argument that there is no order in nature?

Can I assume that you believe in God or some other higher being?
Can I also assume that you believe that this higher being created the universe?

Let's say a Creator. How's that?

You have faith in the existence of a Creator?

 

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Scientists say all the world’s data can fit on a DNA hard drive the size of a teaspoon

 

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Comparing the retina with computer vision

 

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The purpose of the universe is to please me and everything I do.

Ah...I stand corrected.

That really is nothing new. Are you still making that ridiculous argument that there is no order in nature?

Can I assume that you believe in God or some other higher being?
Can I also assume that you believe that this higher being created the universe?

Let's say a Creator. How's that?

You have faith in the existence of a Creator?

Yes, and I do so for good reason. I don't place complete trust or confidence in anything unless I have a good reason.

faith: complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

 

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Chris Langan:
You have to prove that the universe is a self-referential system. Then you have to examine the attributes of this system, analyze the system to determine how it behaves. It turns out that in certain ways it behaves mentally like a mind. The natural question to ask then is: whose mind are we talking about? The answer to that question is the mind of God.

Chris Langan:
I believe in the theory of evolution, but I believe as well in the allegorical truth of creation theory. In other words, I believe that evolution, including the principle of natural selection, is one of the tools used by God to create mankind. Mankind is then a participant in the creation of the universe itself, so that we have a closed loop. I believe that there is a level on which science and religious metaphor are mutually compatible.