What will the Bushes do with the Ukrainian government if they return?

[struth]

Yes, only in relation to native Ukrainians, former Poles

really? who’s putting them on trains to gas chambers?

 

[rupol2000]

They cannot be considered refugees at all, because refugees cannot remain homeless. The government of the host country must have a program for the reception of refugees, their adaptation. This is a scam.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

really? who’s putting them on trains to gas chambers?

A half million or more Ukrainians have been forced into concentration camps in Russia and Belarus.

In this era of modern communications and satellite observation it isn't likely they will be killed en masse but they are definitely going to suffer.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

They cannot be considered refugees at all, because refugees cannot remain homeless. The government of the host country must have a program for the reception of refugees, their adaptation. This is a scam.

Your statement makes no sense. Whether they remain homeless or not if they are fleeing an active war zone by any known definition of refugee they are refugees.

 

[rupol2000]

really? who’s putting them on trains to gas chambers?

I don't know, I think that there are some gangs that are informally subordinate to the government.

The terrorist Sashko Bely, who acted in the interests of this government, was also not an official

 

[rupol2000]

Your statement makes no sense. Whether they remain homeless or not if they are fleeing an active war zone by any known definition of refugee they are refugees.

No, when they flee to Russia, they receive federal assistance and volunteer assistance. People cannot run away to nowhere, especially with children. And it is absurd to talk about this because in Western Ukraine there are no reasons for evacuation at all, this is nonsense.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

no. There is no war in the West. These are fictitious pseudo-refugees for human trafficking. They were taken out before the start of hostilities.

Missile attacks have reached Lviv and even west of Lviv. That is a war.

A good many smaller towns west and south of Kyiv were taken during the encirclement of Kyiv as well.

 

[Turtlesoup]

All of the above is only what is well known from the press and Internet resources. Surely this is just the tip of the iceberg. If there is an investigation, many more facts will surely come to light.

And the russian trolls still don't understand why the rest of the world hates Russia with a passion at this point...

 

[rupol2000]

Missile attacks have reached Lviv and even west of Lviv. That is a war.

A good many smaller towns west and south of Kyiv were taken during the encirclement of Kyiv as well.

This is nonsense. Missiles with the same success can reach Moscow.

They were taken out not today, but at the very beginning of the special operation, and this was prepared in advance.

 

[rupol2000]

In any case, if we assume that this is a flow of real refugees, the main part would come from the combat area.

There is no doubt that this is just a cover for a scam and the genocide of Western Ukrainians

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No, when they flee to Russia, they receive federal assistance and volunteer assistance. People cannot run away to nowhere, especially with children. And it is absurd to talk about this because in Western Ukraine there are no reasons for evacuation at all, this is nonsense.

You need much better and more accurate information.

Thousands of Mariupol residents ‘forcibly’ taken to Russian camps: reports

Thousands of Ukrainian residents of the besieged city of Mariupol have reportedly been “forcibly” moved to cities in the Russian interior over the past week.

nypost.com

There has also been repeated shelling of the evacuation routes into Poland.

Russia Is Shelling Evacuation Routes And Killing Ukrainians As They Try To Flee

Russia is bringing death and chaos to Irpin, where people trying to get to a Kyiv railway station to flee the war are being attacked on the way.View Entire Post ›

news.yahoo.com

They even attacked the rail lines to Poland the day US officials went from Poland to Kyiv.

Russian forces attacked 5 railway stations in Ukraine after Blinken, Lloyd visit: official

"Russian troops continue to systematically destroy railway infrastructure," Oleksandr Kamyshin, the CEO of Ukrainian Railways, said in a statement.

www.businessinsider.com

Russia attacks deep in Ukraine, hitting rail and fuel facilities

Russia has unleashed a string of attacks against Ukrainian rail and fuel facilities, striking crucial infrastructure far from the front line of its eastern offensive.

www.pbs.org

Russia unleashes attacks on Ukraine railways: 'There are victims'

Ukrainian authorities on Monday are reporting numerous attacks on rail stations in central and western Ukraine following a high-profile meeting between Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Kyiv.

www.foxnews.com

They are also attacking warehouses thought to be transfer points for Western Aid and their suspected travel routes from the supply points.

Russia Targets Western Ukraine as Biden Warns Xi Not to Aid Moscow

A scramble of diplomatic efforts bears little fruit as Russia intensifies its attacks, including with a bombardment into a relatively unscathed part of western Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

Russian airstrikes target western arms arriving in Ukraine

Moscow steps up missile strikes on key infrastructure as flow of western weapons becomes focus of war

www.theguardian.com

You are operating on a lot of bad information.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

This is nonsense. Missiles with the same success can reach Moscow.

They were taken out not today, but at the very beginning of the special operation, and this was prepared in advance.

Ukraine hasn't been targeting Moscow with Missiles so that's irrelevant.

"Today" never even entered the conversation till you just inserted it into same.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

In any case, if we assume that this is a flow of real refugees, the main part would come from the combat area.

There is no doubt that this is just a cover for a scam and the genocide of Western Ukrainians

Can you clarify?

 

[rupol2000]

You need much better and more accurate information.

You post some nonsense. Mariupol is located in the East of Ukraine

 

[CowboyTed]

The massacre of Mladic in Serebrenica is considered the bloodiest terrorist act since World War II.

But in Ukraine, the scale of the genocide is already approaching the scale of the Holocaust and Churchill's Bengali genocide. Only one batch of supposedly "refugees" taken out at the beginning of the special operation is 4 million, half of them are children, and I have already seen announcements in the darknet about providing these children for perverts for living.

I think that if the old Republicans return, the Ukrainian government is waiting for the Hague Tribunal. What do you think?

This is utter bullshit...

Actually what has happened is as soon as a refugee lands in his/her adopted country they are given a place to stay and are given full access to social welfare benefits immediately. This is unlike any previous refugees, the EU is picking up the tab on all of this, not the individual countries... Friend of might has a small hotel and he is allowed to charge pretty generous rates.
They have also the right to work from the start and they are setting up there own childcare internally... There are not men in the refugees..

We find them to be hard working and they don't want a hand out, they appreciate a hand up.

In Ireland we presume a few will want to stay after this is all over and we don't really mind. They seem nice, some are educated but we need lower skilled workers anyway... Probably our ignorance but we see them much like the Polish, hardworking and really like the higher standards of education and lower levels of corruption...

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Ukraine says more than 1,200 bodies found in mass graves around Kyiv

Ukraine said 1,222 bodies have been discovered since Russian troops pulled out of towns and villages near Kyiv.

news.yahoo.com

Srebrenica massacre: UN court rejects Mladic genocide appeal

UN judges turn down the Bosnian Serb ex-general's appeal against his genocide conviction.

www.bbc.com

More than 1,200 bodies in mass graves in villages near the Kyiv region

Ukraine's prosecutor Venediktova confirmed 1,222 bodies had been found in the region around Kyiv alone so far as the number of casualties continues to mount six weeks into the invasion.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Russians have focused primarily on Eastern and Southeastern Ukraine but that certainly hasn't been the extent of their attacks or atrocities.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You post some nonsense. Mariupol is located in the East of Ukraine

Mariupol is not the only place being attacked and I never said it is in Western Urkaine, I didn't mention it at all.

 

[rupol2000]

Actually what has happened is as soon as a refugee lands in his/her adopted country they are given a place to stay and are given full access to social welfare benefits immediately. This is unlike any previous refugees, the EU is picking up the tab on all of this, not the individual countries... Friend of might has a small hotel and he is allowed to charge pretty generous rates.
They have also the right to work from the start and they are setting up there own childcare internally... There are not men in the refugees..

That's exactly what I'm talking about. If a mother gives a child to a pervert for the sake of a roof over her head, these are clearly fake "refugees".

Even in poor Russia, they are provided with funds for living and food.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. If a mother gives a child to a pervert for the sake of a roof over her head, these are clearly fake "refugees".

Even in poor Russia, they are provided with funds for living and food.

There's no evidence that has been happening that I've seen anywhere.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No, when they flee to Russia, they receive federal assistance and volunteer assistance. People cannot run away to nowhere, especially with children. And it is absurd to talk about this because in Western Ukraine there are no reasons for evacuation at all, this is nonsense.

See the red dots in Western Ukraine? Those are all place being attacked in the last couple of weeks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russian-invasion-map-1.6367223