What's The Best Way To Fight and/or Stop Racism?

[Correll]

1. I grew up in a working class and diverse neighbor hood. I inherited nothing, and no one ever gave me shit, especially for being white.

2. Standard anti-racism indoctrination of the public schools and pop culture.

3. Why? What makes their experiences and feelings any more important and deserving of consideration of mine. Those kids you talk about beaing you up for being white? IMO, I want to denigrate their feelings and experiences. They were fucking assholes, and I hope karma was a fucking HARSH ASS mistress from them.

4 I do so all the time.

5. We joke about everything else. Why should race be off the table?

What do you do for a living?

You have a problem with anti racism?

Who said their experiences are more important? No one said that. It's like my nephews are being raised rich. They should acknowledge their privilege. And you should realize growing up a black young man is different than growing up white. Did you read how black boys are 5 times more likely to be suspended for the same thing a white boy does? And we all know the cops treat blacks they pull over differently. Why? Because they have bias.

You aren't color blind? I thought you were one of those who says "you don't see color"

It's funny this gay guy on Howard Stern said he doesn't have a problem calling someone a faggot but he is very uncomfortable using the N word. That's not fair.

1. Retail clerk.

2. Yes, I have a problem with "anti-racism", because it is not actually anti-racism, but more a club to beat white people with.


3. You said their experiences were more important when you specify that they need to be validated, while white people have to "check their privilege".

4. Your nephews are not privileged. Calling them privileged is disrespecting the work and sacrifices of their parents, who amassed that wealth. My daughter is getting a pretty nice childhood, with some pretty decent advantages. Any fucker that says it is because of the color of her skin, I want to have words with, because they just dismissed TWO lifetimes of hard work and sacrifice from me and my wife!

5. Give me an example of when or how you would imagine me "seeing" color.

6. Agreed, it's not fair. It is also part of the idea that white people have walk on egg shells and self censor their whole lives, which is highly divisive.

5. How do you not see color?

4. If your kids go to school with other kids who's parents own business' or manage business', they are privileged because of the people they associate with. My cousin got his first job because of my brother. Should my cousin get offended if someone points out his privilege? Why is my cousin benefiting from my brothers hard work? Sounds like he was born into privilege no?

5. I don't know of anything I do, in my life, that the color of someone is relevant.


4 A. You did not address my points.

B. Going to the same school as someone is so pretty weak ass "privilege".

c. You cousin should benefit from yoru brother's hard work, because the fruits of his labor, BELONG to him to do with as he pleases. Being your brother's son, is not a matter of RACE, but of the hard work your brother put in. My skin color is the same as your cousin's, and no one is giving me shit because of it. Or are you telling me that your brother will send me large sums of money? Cause I am willing to admit I am wrong, if you can have him send me a large sum of money as evidence. At least 50k, and i will accept hundreds.

He’s not going to send you anything. You aren’t educated. You are not qualified. That’s why every new job went to indians and Chinese. You whites aren’t smart enough. But, if you know someone who is in a position of power and you have the right qualifications, in other words if you know someone, you may get in.

My cousin got a finance degree. He’s in sales now. He has zero sales experience. His privilege is that he lives in a white society and knows whites who can get him a job. That privilege

You are starting to jump around a lot.


But I live in the same society and I don't know people that can get me a job. So, it is not about skin color then.


And black people get jobs they aren't qualified for too, if they know someone, or if the employer is terrified of being sued. And what more, they often keep them, even if they suck, because of the same.


Soooooo, that is not white privilege. That is something completely else.



You even think about how poor whites feel when they are told they have it easy because of their white skin? Or that they have to give more, or god forbid, Check their fucking privilege?


That shit is divisive and inflames racial tensions.

 

[Unkotare]

What sort of support are you looking for, douche?

Quote something I said, and explain how or why you believe it to be racist.


..."

We’ve been over this several times now. And playing your absurd, weepy victim card isn’t working for you.

We have been over it several times. You quote something I said, that was not racist, and insist it was, ........

Your flaccid denials do nothing to mitigate your prejudice. You're beginning to look about as stupid as bobo.

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

 

[danielpalos]

...solve for a simple poverty of capital under our form of Capitalism, must be the correct and fine and wonderful, capital answer.

 

[katsteve2012]

Why would I waste a second pointing out the obvious to "you"?.....and as far as "us" goes, I'm not the only one here who has the same view of you, ask someone who is willing to spoon feed you, to act as your therapist.

Read your own posts without your blinders on, asshole.

You might learn something.

You say that my behavior is obvious, but when I call you on that, and predict that you will not be able to support your accusation, and will instead just spout insults,


you instead of supporting your accusation, instead just spout more insults.


Dude, I've lost count of the number of times, that you have demonstrated my point, ie, that people like YOU, you vile race baiter, are the ones tearing this country apart and fostering hatred and division.

ROFLMAO! You never had a "point", just a delusion and silly outrage over me refusing to waste time illustrating your personal issues, when they are obvious.

Pointing out an "observation" is not an "accusation".

Stating a historical fact about racism is not race baiting, you dunce.

The country is not being "torn apart" just because your fragile feelings are hurt, drama queen.

Your cowardly dodge is noted. YOu got anything to new to say on the topic, or you just here to spread the hate?

Dodge of what? Your pissy fit over being observed to be a racist?

There are plenty here just like you, and I
I would not waste a second of my time hating you or anyone else here over anything that trivial.

Said the loser that can't back his shit up.

There are no "winners/losers" in a forum like this, little person.

I have backed up what I initially stated multiple times from the beginning.....your problem is that it's not what you wanted to hear.

How much dumber can you be?

 

[Correll]

Quote something I said, and explain how or why you believe it to be racist.


..."

We’ve been over this several times now. And playing your absurd, weepy victim card isn’t working for you.

We have been over it several times. You quote something I said, that was not racist, and insist it was, ........

Your flaccid denials do nothing to mitigate your prejudice. You're beginning to look about as stupid as bobo.

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

Ghetto culture is a culture, not an inherent racial thing. The conversation between me and seely made it clear that we think that the people who are part of such culture should change their behavior.

Wanting changes in behavior, is pretty much the opposite of thinking that the behavior described is inherent or genetic and thus NOT possible to change, which would be the "racist" position on the issues raised.


D'uh.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Q. What''s the best way to stop racism

A. Raise your children correctly.

 

[John Shaw]

1. I grew up in a working class and diverse neighbor hood. I inherited nothing, and no one ever gave me shit, especially for being white.

2. Standard anti-racism indoctrination of the public schools and pop culture.

3. Why? What makes their experiences and feelings any more important and deserving of consideration of mine. Those kids you talk about beaing you up for being white? IMO, I want to denigrate their feelings and experiences. They were fucking assholes, and I hope karma was a fucking HARSH ASS mistress from them.

4 I do so all the time.

5. We joke about everything else. Why should race be off the table?

What do you do for a living?

You have a problem with anti racism?

Who said their experiences are more important? No one said that. It's like my nephews are being raised rich. They should acknowledge their privilege. And you should realize growing up a black young man is different than growing up white. Did you read how black boys are 5 times more likely to be suspended for the same thing a white boy does? And we all know the cops treat blacks they pull over differently. Why? Because they have bias.

You aren't color blind? I thought you were one of those who says "you don't see color"

It's funny this gay guy on Howard Stern said he doesn't have a problem calling someone a faggot but he is very uncomfortable using the N word. That's not fair.

1. Retail clerk.

2. Yes, I have a problem with "anti-racism", because it is not actually anti-racism, but more a club to beat white people with.


3. You said their experiences were more important when you specify that they need to be validated, while white people have to "check their privilege".

4. Your nephews are not privileged. Calling them privileged is disrespecting the work and sacrifices of their parents, who amassed that wealth. My daughter is getting a pretty nice childhood, with some pretty decent advantages. Any fucker that says it is because of the color of her skin, I want to have words with, because they just dismissed TWO lifetimes of hard work and sacrifice from me and my wife!

5. Give me an example of when or how you would imagine me "seeing" color.

6. Agreed, it's not fair. It is also part of the idea that white people have walk on egg shells and self censor their whole lives, which is highly divisive.

5. How do you not see color?

4. If your kids go to school with other kids who's parents own business' or manage business', they are privileged because of the people they associate with. My cousin got his first job because of my brother. Should my cousin get offended if someone points out his privilege? Why is my cousin benefiting from my brothers hard work? Sounds like he was born into privilege no?

5. I don't know of anything I do, in my life, that the color of someone is relevant.


4 A. You did not address my points.

B. Going to the same school as someone is so pretty weak ass "privilege".

c. You cousin should benefit from yoru brother's hard work, because the fruits of his labor, BELONG to him to do with as he pleases. Being your brother's son, is not a matter of RACE, but of the hard work your brother put in. My skin color is the same as your cousin's, and no one is giving me shit because of it. Or are you telling me that your brother will send me large sums of money? Cause I am willing to admit I am wrong, if you can have him send me a large sum of money as evidence. At least 50k, and i will accept hundreds.

He’s not going to send you anything. You aren’t educated. You are not qualified. That’s why every new job went to indians and Chinese. You whites aren’t smart enough. But, if you know someone who is in a position of power and you have the right qualifications, in other words if you know someone, you may get in.

My cousin got a finance degree. He’s in sales now. He has zero sales experience. His privilege is that he lives in a white society and knows whites who can get him a job. That privilege

Ah, casual racism at its finest. I bet you claim to be progressive.

 

[Correll]

You say that my behavior is obvious, but when I call you on that, and predict that you will not be able to support your accusation, and will instead just spout insults,


you instead of supporting your accusation, instead just spout more insults.


Dude, I've lost count of the number of times, that you have demonstrated my point, ie, that people like YOU, you vile race baiter, are the ones tearing this country apart and fostering hatred and division.

ROFLMAO! You never had a "point", just a delusion and silly outrage over me refusing to waste time illustrating your personal issues, when they are obvious.

Pointing out an "observation" is not an "accusation".

Stating a historical fact about racism is not race baiting, you dunce.

The country is not being "torn apart" just because your fragile feelings are hurt, drama queen.

Your cowardly dodge is noted. YOu got anything to new to say on the topic, or you just here to spread the hate?

Dodge of what? Your pissy fit over being observed to be a racist?

There are plenty here just like you, and I
I would not waste a second of my time hating you or anyone else here over anything that trivial.

Said the loser that can't back his shit up.

There are no "winners/losers" in a forum like this, little person.

I have backed up what I initially stated multiple times from the beginning.....your problem is that it's not what you wanted to hear.

How much dumber can you be?

You have done shit, and you know it. HOw stupid do you think your fellow lefties are, to believe such shit? Cause someone who would be a willing dupe, is the only type of person that could read your post and believe it.

 

[beagle9]

Q. What''s the best way to stop racism

A. Raise your children correctly.

It helps, but outside forces like the indoctronation going on in public schools these days, and Hollyweird making everyone think that it's way is the most humanitarian, super cool, trend setting cult thing to follow, of course causes even more tremendous strains on the family these days.

 

[Unkotare]

We’ve been over this several times now. And playing your absurd, weepy victim card isn’t working for you.

We have been over it several times. You quote something I said, that was not racist, and insist it was, ........

Your flaccid denials do nothing to mitigate your prejudice. You're beginning to look about as stupid as bobo.

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

Ghetto culture is a culture, not an inherent racial thing. The conversation between me and seely made it clear that we think that the people who are part of such culture should change their behavior.

Wanting changes in behavior, is pretty much the opposite of thinking that the behavior described is inherent or genetic and thus NOT possible to change, which would be the "racist" position on the issues raised.


D'uh.

Yeah, you and Bobobrainless trying to whitesplain to everyone is laughably obvious.

 

[katsteve2012]

ROFLMAO! You never had a "point", just a delusion and silly outrage over me refusing to waste time illustrating your personal issues, when they are obvious.

Pointing out an "observation" is not an "accusation".

Stating a historical fact about racism is not race baiting, you dunce.

The country is not being "torn apart" just because your fragile feelings are hurt, drama queen.

Your cowardly dodge is noted. YOu got anything to new to say on the topic, or you just here to spread the hate?

Dodge of what? Your pissy fit over being observed to be a racist?

There are plenty here just like you, and I
I would not waste a second of my time hating you or anyone else here over anything that trivial.

Said the loser that can't back his shit up.

There are no "winners/losers" in a forum like this, little person.

I have backed up what I initially stated multiple times from the beginning.....your problem is that it's not what you wanted to hear.

How much dumber can you be?

You have done shit, and you know it. HOw stupid do you think your fellow lefties are, to believe such shit? Cause someone who would be a willing dupe, is the only type of person that could read your post and believe it.

What makes you think that I care who is watching, what they think or what their political position is?

In case you were not paying attention, as usual, .there is a self described conservative in this thread who believes that you're a racist as well.

What you are perceived as, has nothing to do with being left, right or in the middle.

 

[MaryL]

Can we save everyone?

Me thinks not.

I like how brother Beau of the Fifth Column put it...
What about you, what say you, what's the best way to stop this vile thing called "racism/bigotry/prejudice?"

Ignore it? Move on? Get over it? Because racism is like a placebo. It's in the mind. Its only as real as you make it.

 

[IM2]

Can we save everyone?

Me thinks not.

I like how brother Beau of the Fifth Column put it...
What about you, what say you, what's the best way to stop this vile thing called "racism/bigotry/prejudice?"

Ignore it? Move on? Get over it? Because racism is like a placebo. It's in the mind. Its only as real as you make it.

You're getting desperate racist. You are posting lunacy.

 

[Correll]

We have been over it several times. You quote something I said, that was not racist, and insist it was, ........

Your flaccid denials do nothing to mitigate your prejudice. You're beginning to look about as stupid as bobo.

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

Ghetto culture is a culture, not an inherent racial thing. The conversation between me and seely made it clear that we think that the people who are part of such culture should change their behavior.

Wanting changes in behavior, is pretty much the opposite of thinking that the behavior described is inherent or genetic and thus NOT possible to change, which would be the "racist" position on the issues raised.


D'uh.

Yeah, you and Bobobrainless trying to whitesplain to everyone is laughably obvious.

This is a discussion forum. Are you saying that people like me and Seely are not permitted to discuss some topics because of our skin color?


And if that is NOT what you are saying, then please explain what you did mean by that, because it in no way addressed my post, that you supposedly "replied" to.


Because seriously, you tried to back up your accusation of racism, (thank you for that) but when you did, I seriously responding, addressing your example.


But nothing in your post, actually addressed my response. you simply attacked me and seely for daring to discuss a black subculture while having white skin.


An action, which is ironically far more racist than the one you used as an example of my "racism".


I refuse to accept the taboo of not being allowed to discuss certain issues, because of my skin color.


This is ANOTHER way I fight racism.

 

[Correll]

Your cowardly dodge is noted. YOu got anything to new to say on the topic, or you just here to spread the hate?

Dodge of what? Your pissy fit over being observed to be a racist?

There are plenty here just like you, and I
I would not waste a second of my time hating you or anyone else here over anything that trivial.

Said the loser that can't back his shit up.

There are no "winners/losers" in a forum like this, little person.

I have backed up what I initially stated multiple times from the beginning.....your problem is that it's not what you wanted to hear.

How much dumber can you be?

You have done shit, and you know it. HOw stupid do you think your fellow lefties are, to believe such shit? Cause someone who would be a willing dupe, is the only type of person that could read your post and believe it.

What makes you think that I care who is watching, what they think or what their political position is?

In case you were not paying attention, as usual, .there is a self described conservative in this thread who believes that you're a racist as well.

What you are perceived as, has nothing to do with being left, right or in the middle.

1. I think you care because you keep posting, and because you are lying lies, that I am obviously not falling for, thus someone else must be your intended target.


2. Lefties like you have won a large part of the argument by defining the rules of the debate. That some conservatives have accepted these twisted and biased rules, is a great victory of your side. Note though that pointing out that someone else shares your opinion, in no way is an actual defense or support of your opinion. Plenty of bad ideas have been or are very popular. Obviously. YOur pretense otherwise, is stupid.

 

[Unkotare]

Your flaccid denials do nothing to mitigate your prejudice. You're beginning to look about as stupid as bobo.

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

Ghetto culture is a culture, not an inherent racial thing. The conversation between me and seely made it clear that we think that the people who are part of such culture should change their behavior.

Wanting changes in behavior, is pretty much the opposite of thinking that the behavior described is inherent or genetic and thus NOT possible to change, which would be the "racist" position on the issues raised.


D'uh.

Yeah, you and Bobobrainless trying to whitesplain to everyone is laughably obvious.

This is a discussion forum. Are you saying that people like me and Seely are not permitted to discuss some topics because of our skin color?


And if that is NOT what you are saying, then please explain what you did mean by that, because it in no way addressed my post, that you supposedly "replied" to.


Because seriously, you tried to back up your accusation of racism, (thank you for that) but when you did, I seriously responding, addressing your example.


But nothing in your post, actually addressed my response. you simply attacked me and seely for daring to discuss a black subculture while having white skin.


An action, which is ironically far more racist than the one you used as an example of my "racism".


I refuse to accept the taboo of not being allowed to discuss certain issues, because of my skin color.


This is ANOTHER way I fight racism.

No one said you can’t say what you want, little victim, but no one said you won’t be told what it means if you and Bobobrainless are really too stupid to realize it.

 

[Third Party]

Can we save everyone?

Me thinks not.

I like how brother Beau of the Fifth Column put it...



What about you, what say you, what's the best way to stop this vile thing called "racism/bigotry/prejudice?"

You can't. Blacks that have been wronged will NEVER forgive the transgressors. So, racism against whites will be permanent and we all know about white prejudice against blacks, it is hard wired in.

 

[Unkotare]

Can we save everyone?

Me thinks not.

I like how brother Beau of the Fifth Column put it...



What about you, what say you, what's the best way to stop this vile thing called "racism/bigotry/prejudice?"

You can't. Blacks that have been wronged will NEVER forgive the transgressors. So, racism against whites will be permanent and we all know about white prejudice against blacks, it is hard wired in.

Bullcrap. Nothing about racism is “hard wired in” except cowardice in the weak and stupid. And grudges are carried by choice. Focus on present circumstances; encourage dignity, understanding and respect, and the rest will work itself out in time.

 

[katsteve2012]

Dodge of what? Your pissy fit over being observed to be a racist?

There are plenty here just like you, and I
I would not waste a second of my time hating you or anyone else here over anything that trivial.

Said the loser that can't back his shit up.

There are no "winners/losers" in a forum like this, little person.

I have backed up what I initially stated multiple times from the beginning.....your problem is that it's not what you wanted to hear.

How much dumber can you be?

You have done shit, and you know it. HOw stupid do you think your fellow lefties are, to believe such shit? Cause someone who would be a willing dupe, is the only type of person that could read your post and believe it.

What makes you think that I care who is watching, what they think or what their political position is?

In case you were not paying attention, as usual, .there is a self described conservative in this thread who believes that you're a racist as well.

What you are perceived as, has nothing to do with being left, right or in the middle.

1. I think you care because you keep posting, and because you are lying lies, that I am obviously not falling for, thus someone else must be your intended target.


2. Lefties like you have won a large part of the argument by defining the rules of the debate. That some conservatives have accepted these twisted and biased rules, is a great victory of your side. Note though that pointing out that someone else shares your opinion, in no way is an actual defense or support of your opinion. Plenty of bad ideas have been or are very popular. Obviously. YOur pretense otherwise, is stupid.

WTF are you senselessly rambling about?
"Intended targets, fellow lefties"?

You obviously have a psychosis/obsession that causes you to spin left versus right conspiracy theories and insert political positions into nearly every thought.

It is you who implied that in some way I am associated with those that you call "lefties", just because you happen to be dense enough to confuse political beliefs with racial attitudes.

I merely pointed out that YOU being perceived to be a racist is obviously not a "left, right or center opinion.


I don't need to take sides with anyone else to "defend" that fact.

 

[Correll]

And we see you fail to even try to support your claim.

You are the one making the claim, buddy. You are the one to try to support it.

Your game of trying to make it my problem to prove that I am not, is something the liberals love to do.


Oh, and that bit where you don't even try to support your claim, but keep making it, and are insulting as you do it?


Katstevie loves to play that one. You two should maybe hang out together.

Want to use “ghetto” as an adjective again and pretend it’s not racist?

Maybe you and bobohypocrite should hang out together.

Ghetto culture is a culture, not an inherent racial thing. The conversation between me and seely made it clear that we think that the people who are part of such culture should change their behavior.

Wanting changes in behavior, is pretty much the opposite of thinking that the behavior described is inherent or genetic and thus NOT possible to change, which would be the "racist" position on the issues raised.


D'uh.

Yeah, you and Bobobrainless trying to whitesplain to everyone is laughably obvious.

This is a discussion forum. Are you saying that people like me and Seely are not permitted to discuss some topics because of our skin color?


And if that is NOT what you are saying, then please explain what you did mean by that, because it in no way addressed my post, that you supposedly "replied" to.


Because seriously, you tried to back up your accusation of racism, (thank you for that) but when you did, I seriously responding, addressing your example.


But nothing in your post, actually addressed my response. you simply attacked me and seely for daring to discuss a black subculture while having white skin.


An action, which is ironically far more racist than the one you used as an example of my "racism".


I refuse to accept the taboo of not being allowed to discuss certain issues, because of my skin color.


This is ANOTHER way I fight racism.

No one said you can’t say what you want, little victim, but no one said you won’t be told what it means if you and Bobobrainless are really too stupid to realize it.

When you attack someone with as poisonous slander as "Racist" is in our culture, that is not allowing people to say what they want.


That is threatening them with serious consequences if they do so.



Beyond that, you pretty much failed to address any of the other points I made, and instead were just making a number of personal attacks.


You sure you aren't a liberal?