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I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
You are a truly SPECIAL kind of stupid, boy./----/ BWHAHAHAHAHA Try and avoid the SS deductions. Go ahead and let us know how that works./----/ We paid for it our entire lives, why the hell would we give it up? Do you walk into the grocer, buy a cart full of groceries, pay for it then walk away without taking them home?I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
Uh, anyone who is against something should avoid it, not get it.
It's called hypocrisy.
Not my fault you want to look at your cake & eat it too.
Republican logic.
Gimme gimme. Entilements that I hate.
Like why buy food you hate & then get it. & feel you must eat it all & complain about.
Total b******* Republican propaganda, super dupe. link to this huge spending?Think most are not being honest, only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt. what do we do with the other 80% when they cant work any more? I have family members that Think that if they did not have to pay into SS they would be saving it, funny though that there in there late 40s and early 50s & haven't saved a dime on there own. some people are savers, some people spend every penny they get, some spend every penny & charge even more. thanks in part to SS I did not have to care for my ageing parents,& could focus on my own retirement. how would these family members have been able with no savings to care for there parents if SS was gone? its a safety net, we need it.
only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
Can't...he is a spambot./——/ Asked and answered 1,000 times since the 2000 elections. Grow a brain and come up with something new.So why are we the only rich country without a healthcare system, or for that matter good day care paid parental leave living wage good vacations good infrastructure cheap college and training, an ID card that would end illegal immigration and work, or taxes on the rich that are higher than the middle class? Answer the scumbag GOP and silly Dupes like you... Great job./-----/ ????]
Very simple... The collection of taxes for Social Security and Medicare is THEFT, pure and simple. Both programs are unconstitutional and immoral. Then, some number of years later the thief (the Government) steals money from other people to pay you back fr whst they stole from you via those two programs (SS & Medicare).
I don’t and won’t take stolen money or the proceeds of stolen money. I’d rather die with a clear conscience.[/QUOTE
/----/ Ever think we're complaining about the piss poor way the money is being managed?
Yeah like in Sweden where healthcare is all paid for & yet not only does it cost their government slightly less per person. When you look at out of pocket too. Then it becomes obvious our system is broken.
For every 1 dollar Americans spend Sweden pays about 60 cents on healthcare & yet Sweden lives longer.
Pay more & live less time is the US motto on healthcare.
Because Republicans are very, very stupid.
Medicare for all actually makes more sense.
Then move to Sweden ,or shut your pie hole Einstein.
/----/ Ever think we're complaining about the piss poor way the money is being managed?I don't really care what you do with that, but don't expect to not look hypocritical complaining about what you take.
Yeah like in Sweden where healthcare is all paid for & yet not only does it cost their government slightly less per person. When you look at out of pocket too. Then it becomes obvious our system is broken.
For every 1 dollar Americans spend Sweden pays about 60 cents on healthcare & yet Sweden lives longer.
Pay more & live less time is the US motto on healthcare.
Because Republicans are very, very stupid.
Medicare for all actually makes more sense.
I'm more Polish minded than you & Bear.
dare i ask?
~S~
You may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.Think most are not being honest, only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt. what do we do with the other 80% when they cant work any more? I have family members that Think that if they did not have to pay into SS they would be saving it, funny though that there in there late 40s and early 50s & haven't saved a dime on there own. some people are savers, some people spend every penny they get, some spend every penny & charge even more. thanks in part to SS I did not have to care for my ageing parents,& could focus on my own retirement. how would these family members have been able with no savings to care for there parents if SS was gone? its a safety net, we need it.
only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
You may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.Think most are not being honest, only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt. what do we do with the other 80% when they cant work any more? I have family members that Think that if they did not have to pay into SS they would be saving it, funny though that there in there late 40s and early 50s & haven't saved a dime on there own. some people are savers, some people spend every penny they get, some spend every penny & charge even more. thanks in part to SS I did not have to care for my ageing parents,& could focus on my own retirement. how would these family members have been able with no savings to care for there parents if SS was gone? its a safety net, we need it.
only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
What a bunch of crap, another conspiracy theory for ignorant dupes only...Can't...he is a spambot./——/ Asked and answered 1,000 times since the 2000 elections. Grow a brain and come up with something new.So why are we the only rich country without a healthcare system, or for that matter good day care paid parental leave living wage good vacations good infrastructure cheap college and training, an ID card that would end illegal immigration and work, or taxes on the rich that are higher than the middle class? Answer the scumbag GOP and silly Dupes like you... Great job./-----/ ????]
Very simple... The collection of taxes for Social Security and Medicare is THEFT, pure and simple. Both programs are unconstitutional and immoral. Then, some number of years later the thief (the Government) steals money from other people to pay you back fr whst they stole from you via those two programs (SS & Medicare).
I don’t and won’t take stolen money or the proceeds of stolen money. I’d rather die with a clear conscience.[/QUOTE
Yeah like in Sweden where healthcare is all paid for & yet not only does it cost their government slightly less per person. When you look at out of pocket too. Then it becomes obvious our system is broken.
For every 1 dollar Americans spend Sweden pays about 60 cents on healthcare & yet Sweden lives longer.
Pay more & live less time is the US motto on healthcare.
Because Republicans are very, very stupid.
Medicare for all actually makes more sense.
Then move to Sweden ,or shut your pie hole Einstein.
/----/ Ever think we're complaining about the piss poor way the money is being managed?
Yeah like in Sweden where healthcare is all paid for & yet not only does it cost their government slightly less per person. When you look at out of pocket too. Then it becomes obvious our system is broken.
For every 1 dollar Americans spend Sweden pays about 60 cents on healthcare & yet Sweden lives longer.
Pay more & live less time is the US motto on healthcare.
Because Republicans are very, very stupid.
Medicare for all actually makes more sense.
Think most are not being honest, only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt. what do we do with the other 80% when they cant work any more? I have family members that Think that if they did not have to pay into SS they would be saving it, funny though that there in there late 40s and early 50s & haven't saved a dime on there own. some people are savers, some people spend every penny they get, some spend every penny & charge even more. thanks in part to SS I did not have to care for my ageing parents,& could focus on my own retirement. how would these family members have been able with no savings to care for there parents if SS was gone? its a safety net, we need it.
only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
All I can say is, elderly used to be 65% poor, and that is much lower since Social Security retirement and disability. It's only civilized, but of course you Republicans are barely that. Just full of crap and moaning and allowing yourself to be screwed over by your lying thieving Heroes LOLYou may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
Your funds can not draw interest if they are being spent to support people collecting SS benefits. SS is noq and never has been an investment program. Private investment firms have campaigned and lobbied for you to believe SS should be an investment program. SS is an insurance program. You collect benefits if you become disabled. Your children collect benefits if you die.You may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
Your funds can not draw interest if they are being spent to support people collecting SS benefits. SS is noq and never has been an investment program. Private investment firms have campaigned and lobbied for you to believe SS should be an investment program. SS is an insurance program. You collect benefits if you become disabled. Your children collect benefits if you die.You may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
You may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.Think most are not being honest, only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt. what do we do with the other 80% when they cant work any more? I have family members that Think that if they did not have to pay into SS they would be saving it, funny though that there in there late 40s and early 50s & haven't saved a dime on there own. some people are savers, some people spend every penny they get, some spend every penny & charge even more. thanks in part to SS I did not have to care for my ageing parents,& could focus on my own retirement. how would these family members have been able with no savings to care for there parents if SS was gone? its a safety net, we need it.
only 20 % of the country have retirement savings & little debt
When the government takes 15.3% of your lifetime earnings, it does
make it harder to save outside of Social Security, don't you agree?
If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
I'm an anarcho-capitalist, and you're still an arrogant collectivist knuckle dragger.....I doubt a real despotic strongman like Pinochet would have spared you.I'm certainly no Liberal actually every single poster on this thread is more Liberal than me.
You are stupid one track minded brutes who see just Republicans vs Democrats.
Hey dumb dumbs most of the World is Conservative, Collectivist & pro Socialism compared to you bozos.
All I can say is, elderly used to be 65% poor, and that is much lower since Social Security retirement and disability. It's only civilized, but of course you Republicans are barely that. Just full of crap and moaning and allowing yourself to be screwed over by your lying thieving Heroes LOLYou may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.If you include what your employer matches, SS is the largest deduction out of your paycheck every week. Putting that into a conservative growth fund would net you a lot more than SS will give you back in a normal lifetime.
Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
Obama's stimulis package was BS & Trump's tax cuts were BS.
Both added on a ton of debt & did nothing to help the real wages grow much.
Wages in the US grew at their fastest pace for nine years last month, the latest official figures show.
The US Labor Department said wages grew at an annual rate of 3.1% in October, accelerating from a rate of 2.8% the month before.
The economy also added 250,000 jobs last month, beating expectations, while the jobless rate remained at 3.7%.
US wage growth hits nine-year high
Inflation is going up quicker than wages are, opps.
Inflation hurts our oldest members the most.
Thats why Social security & medicare are so important
Not my income.
So where did you fuck up?
Typical Individualist logic.
I support greater society & civilzation which is called Collectivist you are an Individualist which means you think the society is just YOU.
I'm convinced that Individualists are hardly Human & therefor can't think, or feel what true Humans do.
You want to be a drone, have at it. If you want to live free, drop the nonsense about the collective and march to your own drummer.
You apparently believe that man exists to serve society, while I believe that society exists to serve man. The only time that man has an obligation to serve the society is when the society needs to protect itself from internal and/or external threat.
Keep in mind that there is little thrill in victory unless there also exists the agony of losing. Life is worth living. Live it with all the gusto you can muster..
everybody needs it because you never know and it turns out you people are idiots. Republicans are against everything democratic I even when it's a great success and they love it.All I can say is, elderly used to be 65% poor, and that is much lower since Social Security retirement and disability. It's only civilized, but of course you Republicans are barely that. Just full of crap and moaning and allowing yourself to be screwed over by your lying thieving Heroes LOLYou may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.Bush tried to talk Dem's into investing some of OUR SS money and Democrats threw a conniption fit. Fact is Democrats used OUR SS money as a piggy bank, they "borrowed" OUR money, $2 trillion dollars of it and spent every last dime. They gave us worthless IOU's they can't pay back. If that happened in any private pension fund they would all be in prison.
One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
No, it had its time. Now, one should be able to opt in or out. Im not calling for it to be completely thrown out. Some people need it. They don't have the means to make investments.
everybody needs it because you never know and it turns out you people are idiots. Republicans are against everything democratic I even when it's a great success and they love it.All I can say is, elderly used to be 65% poor, and that is much lower since Social Security retirement and disability. It's only civilized, but of course you Republicans are barely that. Just full of crap and moaning and allowing yourself to be screwed over by your lying thieving Heroes LOLYou may have a point. Folks without children and or a spouse miss out on the insurance benefits of Social Security. However, those with children and a spouse can and do reap huge insurance benefits and often prevent families from having to be dependent on welfare. Of course, the idea that your contributed funds are stashed away waiting for something to happen to you is false. Funds you contribute are going to the folks who are collecting benefits today.One of the reasons Democrats never tried to increase contributions is because they know America will turn against SS and Medicare. These federal programs give them the power of control. Dependency has always been the Democrat strategy, and losing control over the two largest entities would strip them of nearly all power.
If I pass away before retirement, my nephew and niece get everything I worked for. They get my IRA, my bank accounts, my home and rental property, my big screen television, my valuable musical instruments. What they won't see is one red cent of what I put into Social Security. That fund dies with me, and all that money I contributed will go to strangers I've never met before instead of my family.
Thats irrelevant. That money could be drawing interest and its not. I can't even pass it on to my children or....whoever.
No, it had its time. Now, one should be able to opt in or out. Im not calling for it to be completely thrown out. Some people need it. They don't have the means to make investments.
I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
