Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

[ Absolutely ! Lets have peace negotiations with Muslims who think this way. ]

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews:
"We will raise the Fatah flag with the rifle...
We will come at you from the sea...
We are soldiers, until we break the Jews"

• Music video includes photos of terrorist murderer Dalal Mughrabi who led attack from the sea in which 37 Israeli civilians, among them 12 children, were murdered
  
• Song glorifies death for "the homeland"

(full article online)

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews - PMW Bulletins

 

[Sixties Fan]

The first thing that happened after implementation of the deal in early November was that prices of merchandise imported to Gaza plummeted by up to 25 percent. Having your money go 25 percent further is an obvious boon to anyone, but especially for impoverished Gazans. Prices fell because, for the first time in a decade, Gazans weren’t paying taxes to two different governments–the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza–but only to one. As part of the reconciliation deal, Hamas handed control of Gaza’s borders to the PA and dismantled the tax collection checkpoints it had set up at the border crossings.

(full article online)

Gaza Continues to Suffer as Hamas Exploits the Reconciliation Deal

 

[P F Tinmore]

UNRWA does not define refugee status.

Palestine Refugees as Defined by UNRWA

Anyone whose normal place of residence was in Mandate Palestine during the period from 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war qualifies as a Palestine refugee, as defined by UNRWA

The Palestinians begged Britain for independence all during is occu...er...Mandate period.

Also wrong.

UNWRA is an aid agency. Their definition is only for refugees who qualify for aid.

All refugees need aid. Palestinian refugees are defined by UNRWA.

You need to read up on Britain's actions during the Mandate period.

How Britain's actions during the Mandate period can support that "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence"? It should be Palestinian actions, not British.

Britain had the guns.

Irrelevant.
You still didn't answer how "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence".

Here are some early corespondents. This was a problem all through the Mandate period.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestine Refugees as Defined by UNRWA

Anyone whose normal place of residence was in Mandate Palestine during the period from 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war qualifies as a Palestine refugee, as defined by UNRWAAlso wrong.

UNWRA is an aid agency. Their definition is only for refugees who qualify for aid.

All refugees need aid. Palestinian refugees are defined by UNRWA.

You need to read up on Britain's actions during the Mandate period.

How Britain's actions during the Mandate period can support that "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence"? It should be Palestinian actions, not British.

Britain had the guns.

Irrelevant.
You still didn't answer how "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence".

Here are some early corespondents. This was a problem all through the Mandate period.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

Wrong Thread

 

[rylah]

Palestine Refugees as Defined by UNRWA

Anyone whose normal place of residence was in Mandate Palestine during the period from 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war qualifies as a Palestine refugee, as defined by UNRWAAlso wrong.

UNWRA is an aid agency. Their definition is only for refugees who qualify for aid.

All refugees need aid. Palestinian refugees are defined by UNRWA.

You need to read up on Britain's actions during the Mandate period.

How Britain's actions during the Mandate period can support that "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence"? It should be Palestinian actions, not British.

Britain had the guns.

Irrelevant.
You still didn't answer how "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence".

Here are some early corespondents. This was a problem all through the Mandate period.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

It was an Arab pledge to include whole of Palestine into a bigger Arab Syria.
This delegation spoke only on behalf of the Arabs, as written in the title, not the Palestinian Jews.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Back in the 1990s, civil rights activists coined the term “DWB” (driving while black) to highlight the frequency of incidents in which African-American motorists were stopped by the police without just cause. It was as if the drivers were considered guilty of something simply because they were black.

In the wake of Thursday’s mob attack in Israel, it’s time to coin a new term: “WWJ,” walking while Jewish.

Two parents and a group of young Jewish children set out on a hike in the Shomron (Samaria) region, as part of a bar mitzvah celebration. The hike was coordinated in advance with the Israeli army, which gave its approval. Each of the parents carried a weapon, at the army’s request.

They didn’t hike through any Arab villages. They didn’t create a settlement. They didn’t bother anybody, violate any law or do anything wrong. Their only “crime” was that they were walking while Jewish.

Some Palestinian Arabs spotted the children. Keep in mind that these are Palestinians who have been educated in Palestinian schools. You would think that if the Palestinians were sincere when they signed the Oslo Accords, they would have changed the curricula in their schools, in order to encourage peace and coexistence.

But as Palestinian Media Watch and other groups have repeatedly documented, Palestinian school textbooks still teach vicious hatred of Israel. They portray all of Israel as “occupied Palestine.” They depict Jews as devils, rats, insects and butchers. They hail Arab murderers of Jews as “heroes” and “martyrs.”

(full article online)

The crime: walking while Jewish

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Peace with Arab liars? How is that supposed to happen? ]

Abbas demands international protection for Palestinians after West Bank shooting

 

[admonit]

Palestine Refugees as Defined by UNRWA

Anyone whose normal place of residence was in Mandate Palestine during the period from 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war qualifies as a Palestine refugee, as defined by UNRWAAlso wrong.

UNWRA is an aid agency. Their definition is only for refugees who qualify for aid.

All refugees need aid. Palestinian refugees are defined by UNRWA.

You need to read up on Britain's actions during the Mandate period.

How Britain's actions during the Mandate period can support that "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence"? It should be Palestinian actions, not British.

Britain had the guns.

Irrelevant.
You still didn't answer how "the Palestinians begged Britain for independence".

Here are some early corespondents. This was a problem all through the Mandate period.

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

The presented correspondence discussed the Palestine Order in Council in 1922 before British mandate established.
The independence of Palestine was not a main subject of the discussion and was mentioned by Musa Kazim only as a possibility.
To "beg Britain for independence " Palestinian Arabs first needed clearly to formulate such important goal for themselves. And the Palestine Arab Congress failed in doing it.
First congress: Jerusalem, 1919: Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
Third congress: Haifa, 1920: Called for Palestine to be part of the independent Arab state
Palestine Arab Congress - Wikipedia
Nothing about Palestinian independence.

 

[Sixties Fan]

When faced with opposing accounts, I am usually skeptical of the palestinian one, for the sole reason that their track record in lying is very impressive. But I always endeavor to be intellectually honest, and try and work out who is telling the truth, based on the available information, looking at things like plausibility and inconsistencies in the accounts.

In this case, the palestinians made a huge error. They posted a video that aligns with the IDF version that the Israelis were trapped in a cave. Not only that, but the video shows they were mostly children!

(video online)

New Blood Libel: The Case of the “Murdered” Palestinian Farmer

 

[jamesduncan]

[How some Arabs love rocks more than children,

Oh my.., just how much do the Zionists "love" to murder children~~~?​

I Googled “Israelis killing children”
About 537,000 results (0.39 seconds)
Search Results

These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.../these-are-palestinian-children-killed-israel-2016

Jan 27, 2017 - Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...

https://electronicintifada.net/content/invisible-killings-israels-daily-toll...children/4263

Convincing the Israeli adults in control of this weaponry in civilian areas that they should not be using it to kill children who are merely stone throwers should not ...

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314...

May 14, 2016 - Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...

One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...

Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000 – Middle ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Jun 1, 2017 - Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
Thu., October 28, 2004

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
28 July 2003

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead
Tue.,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html

One might ask
why do the indigenous Palestinians
dislike the Israeli "occupation?????
Oh what's the problem
I just LOVE
killing Palestinian children
because they can't defend themselves​

Just asking -

 

[Hollie]

[How some Arabs love rocks more than children,

Oh my.., just how much do the Zionists "love" to murder children~~~?​

I Googled “Israelis killing children”
About 537,000 results (0.39 seconds)
Search Results

These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2016 | The ...
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/.../these-are-palestinian-children-killed-israel-2016

Jan 27, 2017 - Thirty-five Palestinian children were killed by Israeli soldiers, police and armed civilians during the year, all but four of the deadly incidents ...
Invisible killings: Israel's daily toll of Palestinian children | The ...

https://electronicintifada.net/content/invisible-killings-israels-daily-toll...children/4263

Convincing the Israeli adults in control of this weaponry in civilian areas that they should not be using it to kill children who are merely stone throwers should not ...

Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera
www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314...

May 14, 2016 - Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of anti-Israeli attacks and the number detained was ...
One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years ...

One Palestinian child killed every 3 days by Israel for 13 years: statistics...
“The International Day for the Protection of Children is on June 1,” said a spokesman, “but Palestinian children are still subject to attacks by the Israelis and ...

Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000 – Middle ...
Report: Israel killed 3,000 Palestinian children since 2000...

Jun 1, 2017 - Israel has killed more than 3,000 children since 28 September 2000 when the Second Intifada began until the end of April 2017, a new report ...
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia
Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

Children in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict refers to the impact of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict .... Though Israeli children were killed in the conflict during the decades prior, the first acts of
12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
Thu., October 28, 2004

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.

Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die
September 8, 2003
Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.
28 July 2003

She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,
'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead
Tue.,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html

One might ask
why do the indigenous Palestinians
dislike the Israeli "occupation?????
Oh what's the problem
I just LOVE
killing Palestinian children
because they can't defend themselves​

Just asking -

Aren't you lucky that your islamic terrorist heroes supply a steady stream of disposable humans they can put in harms way as "martyrs".

Just sayin'

 

[jamesduncan]

[ Absolutely ! Lets have peace negotiations with Muslims who think this way. ]

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews:
"We will raise the Fatah flag with the rifle...
We will come at you from the sea...
We are soldiers, until we break the Jews"

• Music video includes photos of terrorist murderer Dalal Mughrabi who led attack from the sea in which 37 Israeli civilians, among them 12 children, were murdered
  
• Song glorifies death for "the homeland"

(full article online)

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews - PMW Bulletins

Liar
-​

 

[Hollie]

[ Absolutely ! Lets have peace negotiations with Muslims who think this way. ]

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews:
"We will raise the Fatah flag with the rifle...
We will come at you from the sea...
We are soldiers, until we break the Jews"

• Music video includes photos of terrorist murderer Dalal Mughrabi who led attack from the sea in which 37 Israeli civilians, among them 12 children, were murdered
  
• Song glorifies death for "the homeland"

(full article online)

Song on PA TV promises to attack Jews - PMW Bulletins

Liar
-​

Someone of few words, and thoughts, and abilities.

 

[Art__Allm]

Khazar foolishness was discredited last century.

Before the creation of Israel and the invention of the "Jewish people" by Zionists the history of Khazaria was accepted by all major Jewish historians. And Jewish historians also agreed that Palestinians were the real descendants of Hebrews.

A century ago Zionists were just a small group of extremists, most Jews looked at Zionist as at crazy people. These crazy people first invented a language, called "Ivrith", the first speaker of this language was a boy that was not permitted to play with other kids.

And his father was beating his mother because tried tried to sing to her son songs in her native language, speak Russian songs.

So the first speaker of Ivrith was denied the right to speak the language of his mother, this language was born in a very violent way.

That was the first crazy act of Zionists.

After that they continued with their fraud, they became more and more influential, they re-wrote the history of Jews and now they even try to convince the scientists that conversion to Judaism changed the genes of pagans, and they are claiming that there is a "Jewish gene", and that a religious group can be defined by the DNA.

As we see, money and influence can create a virtual reality, but how long can this fake reality survive?

 

[jamesduncan]

.,.,.,.,Before the creation of Israel and the invention of the "Jewish people" by Zionists the history of Khazaria was accepted by all major Jewish historians. And Jewish historians also agreed that Palestinians were the real descendants of Hebrews.

A century ago Zionists were just a small group of extremists, most Jews looked at Zionist as at crazy people. These crazy people first invented a language, called "Ivrith", the first speaker of this language was a boy that was not permitted to play with other kids.

Since you know all this then why don't you join others to condemn these acts of murder and
blasphemy?
Convince the Israelis to repent, return to the teachings of God, become the example of good, not evil.

Please visit this forum--it is here on this web site
What is Israel's legal "right to exist?"



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[Sixties Fan]

Khazar foolishness was discredited last century.

Before the creation of Israel and the invention of the "Jewish people" by Zionists the history of Khazaria was accepted by all major Jewish historians. And Jewish historians also agreed that Palestinians were the real descendants of Hebrews.

A century ago Zionists were just a small group of extremists, most Jews looked at Zionist as at crazy people. These crazy people first invented a language, called "Ivrith", the first speaker of this language was a boy that was not permitted to play with other kids.

And his father was beating his mother because tried tried to sing to her son songs in her native language, speak Russian songs.

So the first speaker of Ivrith was denied the right to speak the language of his mother, this language was born in a very violent way.

That was the first crazy act of Zionists.

After that they continued with their fraud, they became more and more influential, they re-wrote the history of Jews and now they even try to convince the scientists that conversion to Judaism changed the genes of pagans, and they are claiming that there is a "Jewish gene", and that a religious group can be defined by the DNA.

As we see, money and influence can create a virtual reality, but how long can this fake reality survive?

<<Before the creation of Israel and the invention of the "Jewish people" by Zionists the history of Khazaria was accepted by all major Jewish historians. And Jewish historians also agreed that Palestinians were the real descendants of Hebrews.>>

Do offer evidence of that paragraph and not just allegations as to what it says.

Name each and every one of those Jewish Historians, who believed what you allege, before 1948.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Khazar foolishness was discredited last century.

Before the creation of Israel and the invention of the "Jewish people" by Zionists the history of Khazaria was accepted by all major Jewish historians. And Jewish historians also agreed that Palestinians were the real descendants of Hebrews.

A century ago Zionists were just a small group of extremists, most Jews looked at Zionist as at crazy people. These crazy people first invented a language, called "Ivrith", the first speaker of this language was a boy that was not permitted to play with other kids.

And his father was beating his mother because tried tried to sing to her son songs in her native language, speak Russian songs.

So the first speaker of Ivrith was denied the right to speak the language of his mother, this language was born in a very violent way.

That was the first crazy act of Zionists.

After that they continued with their fraud, they became more and more influential, they re-wrote the history of Jews and now they even try to convince the scientists that conversion to Judaism changed the genes of pagans, and they are claiming that there is a "Jewish gene", and that a religious group can be defined by the DNA.

As we see, money and influence can create a virtual reality, but how long can this fake reality survive?

<<After that they continued with their fraud, they became more and more influential, they re-wrote the history of Jews and now they even try to convince the scientists that conversion to Judaism changed the genes of pagans, and they are claiming that there is a "Jewish gene", and that a religious group can be defined by the DNA.>>>>

Absolutely Masterful !!!!!

Bravo!!!!

When it comes to hatred of Jews, no evidence is EVER required.
Say anything, allege anything, and the ARTs of the world will fall hook, line and sinker into it.

Bravo ART

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hamdallah said at the ceremony, "Despite the settlement activities carried out by Israel, the Palestinian people still believe in the culture of coexistence, brotherhood and peace that our Lord Jesus Christ has brought to them, and we call on the entire world to take a united stand to end the longest occupation and oppression of history. And the realization of the rights of our people and the recognition of its state, especially as the two-state solution is in real and serious danger due to Israel's persistence in its violations and its disregard for international law, human rights principles and signed agreements. "

The tree lighting isn't to remind people of peace on earth and goodwill towards men. it is meant to bash Israel, the only nation in the region that Christians aren't fleeing.

(full article online)

The cynical Palestinian lighting of a Christmas tree in a city that Christians are fleeing ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jewish Groups at UC Berkeley Call for Removal of Professor Who Shared Antisemitic Images

 

[Sixties Fan]

Linda Sarsour loves me; she loves me not