Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

 

[P F Tinmore]

the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies

the establishment in Palestine

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine. Balfour recognizes the existence of Palestine. The Treaty of Lausanne called it a state. The League of Nations called it a state. Various court rulings called it a state. The US had a trade agreement with Palestine in 1932.

The liars in Israel says that Palestine is not a state with no evidence to back up that claim.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

And since there is no longer a Mandate for Palestine, we agree there is no longer a Palestine.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

A state does not need a Mandate to exist.

An imaginary state doesn't need borders.

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

 

[P F Tinmore]

israel's declared borders

the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies

the establishment in Palestine

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine. Balfour recognizes the existence of Palestine. The Treaty of Lausanne called it a state. The League of Nations called it a state. Various court rulings called it a state. The US had a trade agreement with Palestine in 1932.

The liars in Israel says that Palestine is not a state with no evidence to back up that claim.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

And since there is no longer a Mandate for Palestine, we agree there is no longer a Palestine.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

A state does not need a Mandate to exist.

An imaginary state doesn't need borders.

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

It is time Israel declared her borders

From the blog of Devin Sper at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Recent violations of Israel’s border by an Iranian drone and mass protests by Hamas supporters in Gaza highlight a broader problem: Israel has never actually declared her borders. While the 1948 armistice line and 1967 cease fire lines became temporary de facto borders Israel never declared either as her official border, nor did any country recognize them as such. Her failure to do has left a vacuum, that Israel’s enemies have repeatedly exploited to undermine her legitimacy, for a country without borders is not a country.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Yes, we're back to "Israel is a country with borders and Palestine is nothing".

And we're back to your whining about it.

You're free to prove Palestine was a country before the "occupation".

But you won't. Because you can't. Because it wasn't.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Yes, we're back to "Israel is a country with borders and Palestine is nothing".

And we're back to your whining about it.

You're free to prove Palestine was a country before the "occupation".

But you won't. Because you can't. Because it wasn't.

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Indeed we are.

 

[Hollie]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

When was Pal'istan a state?

Link?

 

[Hollie]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

Indeed, What international borders?

Link?

The state of Israel has a treaty with Egypt to establish a border, for one example.

What nations have a treaty to establish borrders with your invented 'country of Pal'istan?

Link?

 

[Hollie]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Yes, we're back to "Israel is a country with borders and Palestine is nothing".

And we're back to your whining about it.

You're free to prove Palestine was a country before the "occupation".

But you won't. Because you can't. Because it wasn't.

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Indeed we are.

Are we back, as usual, to your nonsense claims?

Indeed we are.

 

[Hollie]

the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies

the establishment in Palestine

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine. Balfour recognizes the existence of Palestine. The Treaty of Lausanne called it a state. The League of Nations called it a state. Various court rulings called it a state. The US had a trade agreement with Palestine in 1932.

The liars in Israel says that Palestine is not a state with no evidence to back up that claim.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

And since there is no longer a Mandate for Palestine, we agree there is no longer a Palestine.

There can't be a Mandate For Palestine if there is no Palestine.

A state does not need a Mandate to exist.

An imaginary state doesn't need borders.

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

You mean other than the borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

When was Pal'istan a state?

Link?

Palestine was created as a state as was Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Transjordan.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

Probably because Palestine was never a country.
Never had international borders.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

Especially the ones that did not exist before the "occupation".

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Yes, we're back to "Israel is a country with borders and Palestine is nothing".

And we're back to your whining about it.

You're free to prove Palestine was a country before the "occupation".

But you won't. Because you can't. Because it wasn't.

Are we back to Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?

Indeed we are.

You're free to prove Palestine was a country before the "occupation".

But you won't. Because you can't. Because it wasn't.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Palestine was created as a state as was Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Transjordan.

Liar.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

Indeed, What international borders?

Link?

The state of Israel has a treaty with Egypt to establish a border, for one example.

What nations have a treaty to establish borrders with your invented 'country of Pal'istan?

Link?

Indeed, What international borders?

Posted many times. Sorry you can't keep up.

 

[Hollie]

I am beginning to believe that you don't have any proof that "Palestine" was ever a "self-governing" state.

Nice attempt at deflection. Occupied states are not self governing because the are under foreign military control.

States do not cease to exist when they are under occupation.

When was Pal'istan a state?

Link?

Palestine was created as a state as was Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Transjordan.

No, it was not. Did you know the Islamic terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank disagree with you?

Indeed,, you are riding your zebra again. Rode hard and put up wet.

 

[Hollie]

Interesting thing to say since Israel has never declared its borders.

What about the border agreements they signed with their neighbors?
Isn't that a declaration?

There has never been a treaty changing Palestine's international borders.

Indeed, What international borders?

Link?

The state of Israel has a treaty with Egypt to establish a border, for one example.

What nations have a treaty to establish borrders with your invented 'country of Pal'istan?

Link?

Indeed, What international borders?

Posted many times. Sorry you can't keep up.

You post many false things multiple times.

Wet sponge your zebra.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine was created as a state as was Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Transjordan.

Liar.

Looking at the documents creating the new states, I never saw the words "except Palestine."