Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
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I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
Substantiated as an act of barbarism.Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
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Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
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Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
View attachment 493664
This describes the Arab Palestinians - NOT - the Israelis. The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948. Today's splinter groups and facets of the Hostile Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967. (Although you can make the argument that there is no one voice among the splinter groups that express the "Palestinian Political Position."
You should speak to the reality and ground truth; especially when you include the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS).
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Most Respectfully,
R
And still clueless.The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948.
Our Friend "Toddsterpatriot" is being very kind when he lets the Arab Palestinians off with "candyass."I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
The "leaders" are talking 67, the people are talking 48. It is very common for people to call Israel 48.Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967.
Just how successful have the Hostile Arab Palestinians been holding that position. Remember, that when the Israelis chased the Jordanians out of the West Bank and then chased the Egyptians from the Gaza Strip, I don't recall the Palestinians having lost any territory.The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
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Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
View attachment 493664
This describes the Arab Palestinians - NOT - the Israelis. The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948. Today's splinter groups and facets of the Hostile Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967. (Although you can make the argument that there is no one voice among the splinter groups that express the "Palestinian Political Position."
You should speak to the reality and ground truth; especially when you include the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS).
![]()
Most Respectfully,
RAnd still clueless.The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948.![]()
Why do Palestinian women and children protest? They are occupied too.Our Friend "Toddsterpatriot" is being very kind when he lets the Arab Palestinians off with "candyass."I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
In America, felons convicted "Child Abuse" • "Child Molestation" • "Sex Assaults" using "Children as Human Shields or Hostages" (as a matter of policy) do not fare well in the Penal System. In many cases, they have to be separated out from the general population.
Most Western Cultures agree that parading the bodies of dead children for the purpose of media coverage is despicable. And the "Kidnap and Murder" of teenagers is cowardly.
Similarly, the use of civilians to rush the border and release incendiary devices is just as cowardly. Just like the International Convention of the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings covers:
An explosive or incendiary weapon or device that is designed, or has the capability, to cause death, serious bodily injury or substantial material damage;
Yes, Our Friend "Toddsterpatriot" was much more politically correct than I would have been (am now).
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Most Respectfully,
R
All of it and you have been dancing around that question for years.Just how successful have the Hostile Arab Palestinians been holding that position. Remember, that when the Israelis chased the Jordanians out of the West Bank and then chased the Egyptians from the Gaza Strip, I don't recall the Palestinians having lost any territory.The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
View attachment 493664
This describes the Arab Palestinians - NOT - the Israelis. The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948. Today's splinter groups and facets of the Hostile Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967. (Although you can make the argument that there is no one voice among the splinter groups that express the "Palestinian Political Position."
You should speak to the reality and ground truth; especially when you include the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS).
![]()
Most Respectfully,
RAnd still clueless.The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948.![]()
What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?
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Most Respectfully,
R
They're preoccupied being self-created victims of their own failures.Why do Palestinian women and children protest? They are occupied too.Our Friend "Toddsterpatriot" is being very kind when he lets the Arab Palestinians off with "candyass."I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
In America, felons convicted "Child Abuse" • "Child Molestation" • "Sex Assaults" using "Children as Human Shields or Hostages" (as a matter of policy) do not fare well in the Penal System. In many cases, they have to be separated out from the general population.
Most Western Cultures agree that parading the bodies of dead children for the purpose of media coverage is despicable. And the "Kidnap and Murder" of teenagers is cowardly.
Similarly, the use of civilians to rush the border and release incendiary devices is just as cowardly. Just like the International Convention of the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings covers:
An explosive or incendiary weapon or device that is designed, or has the capability, to cause death, serious bodily injury or substantial material damage;
Yes, Our Friend "Toddsterpatriot" was much more politically correct than I would have been (am now).
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
All of it and you have been dancing around that question for years.Just how successful have the Hostile Arab Palestinians been holding that position. Remember, that when the Israelis chased the Jordanians out of the West Bank and then chased the Egyptians from the Gaza Strip, I don't recall the Palestinians having lost any territory.The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
View attachment 493664
This describes the Arab Palestinians - NOT - the Israelis. The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948. Today's splinter groups and facets of the Hostile Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967. (Although you can make the argument that there is no one voice among the splinter groups that express the "Palestinian Political Position."
You should speak to the reality and ground truth; especially when you include the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS).
![]()
Most Respectfully,
RAnd still clueless.The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948.![]()
What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?
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Most Respectfully,
R
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RoccoR said:What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?
(COMMENT #1)All of it and you have been dancing around that question for years.
The flaw in your argument is that you believe that states and governments are required for sovereignty. That is not true. Sovereignty belongs to the people. That gives the people the right to create governments and states. A sovereign state is the extension of the people's sovereignty. I have posted several dovuments showing this to be true.RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: "All of it!"
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Again, this is the Arab Palestinian Claim that they must be given sovereignty over the "River to the Sea." And that is a demonstration of how they think and why they are a Culture of Conflict. They want it all!
RoccoR said:What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?(COMMENT #1)All of it and you have been dancing around that question for years.
I've never danced around that "Question." YOU Simply just don't like the answer. And I ask you one more time (one of many time):
◈ What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?◈ What Sovereign Palestinian Territory ever take from a Palestinian Regime?
IF you cannot answer these simple questions, THEN what leg do you stand on?
a ) Prior to 1948 what permanent population did the Sovereign Palestinian Government have?b ) Prior to 1948 what defined territory did the Sovereign Palestinian Government have?c ) Prior to 1948 what government did the Sovereign Palestinian Sovereignty have?d) Prior to 1948 what foreign relations did the Sovereign Palestinian Sovereignty have with other sovereignties?
(COMMENT #2)
In early 1948, the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) reaffirmed → that the Arabs of Palestine did NOT recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any aspect arising or derived from them.
The Arab Palestinians believe in armed struggle and jihad. Some believe that Palestine is set within the boundaries it had during the British Mandate; and that it is an indivisible territorial unit and cannot be partitioned. Others accept that the Armistice Lines set the boundaries. And others believe that territorial disputes are still subject to negotiation.
While no one disputes that the Arab Palestinians have the "Right to Self-Determination and the Territorial Integrity that outlines their sovereignty; no one knows where that is. And certainly, the Rights of the Arab Palestinians do not preempt the Right of the Israelis.
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Most Respectfully,
R
So you’re saying it’s not true ? Are you saying Hamas rocket launchers and weapons are placed nowhere near any civilians ?Unsubstantiated Israeli talking point.I don't mean candy ass like hiding in airplanes. Well, that too.
Do you mean like Hamas candy ass, hiding behind children?
He asked a simple question and once again you ducked . Let’s try again Tinmore: what territory was under Palestinian sovereignty that Israel occupied? Link??All of it and you have been dancing around that question for years.Just how successful have the Hostile Arab Palestinians been holding that position. Remember, that when the Israelis chased the Jordanians out of the West Bank and then chased the Egyptians from the Gaza Strip, I don't recall the Palestinians having lost any territory.The is no implied "euphemism." I tried to explain that you have no idea what talks may or may not be undertaken in the dark. In fact, you do not even understand the "Israeli policy on negotiation efforts." I don't think the Israelis would be taking you into their confidence.Is all this a euphemism for candy ass?RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Surreptitious and Politically Concealed Communications and Meetings 'vs' Policy
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
BLUF: Dark Political Communications may be happening at any time without your knowledge.
(COMMENT)P F Tinmore said:Israel is too candy ass to talk to Hamas.
Well, there is a mistake on the part of the general public on the policy (most) nations have concerning negotiating with terrorists.
In the US, there is a thing called an "Executive (or Presidential) Finding" (50 U.S. Code § 3093 - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions) which grants the action necessary to support identifiable foreign policy objectives - and is important to the national security. I know of no nation in the civilized world that does not have this extraordinary option. And every now and then you will hear about it after the fact. These cover all matters of concern to the Executive. And these are often given to Ambassadors without portfolios when setting up these very private meetings, or other Dark Political Communications.
For all you know, these meetings (between Israel and HAMAS) may be orchestrated by a third party (maybe Egypt). And such meetings have occurred in the past.
EXAMPLE:
Whether or not the true purpose of the meeting was possible "Kidnapping" or the faint to draw away scrutiny from some other event or activity.Palestinian Sources • Newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat said:A secret meeting took place between Israeli and Hamas officials this past week, the London based newspaper Al-Sharak Al-Awsat reported on Saturday.
According to Palestinian sources quoted in the report, the former Treasury Minister in the Hamas government of Ismail Haniyeh, Omar Abed al-Razak was taken from Nablus, in the West Bank, to the Israeli city of Netanya on Tuesday.
SOURCE: Report: Secret Meeting Held Between Israeli, Hamas Officials
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
What are you trying to say? English please.
View attachment 493664
This describes the Arab Palestinians - NOT - the Israelis. The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948. Today's splinter groups and facets of the Hostile Arab Palestinians are (generally) talking about the Question of Palestine since 1967. (Although you can make the argument that there is no one voice among the splinter groups that express the "Palestinian Political Position."
You should speak to the reality and ground truth; especially when you include the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS).
![]()
Most Respectfully,
RAnd still clueless.The Israelis have been addressing the Question of Palestine head-on since 1948.![]()
What territory did you say was of Palestinian Sovereignty that the Israelis occupied?
![]()
Most Respectfully,
R
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