Why Are Republicans So Relentlessly Cruel to the Poor?

[Billo_Really]

what tax rate do you pay?

29%.

 

[Flash]

[Q

A good Christian certainly wouldn't feel that way. It's not what Jesus preached. Unfortunately, too many Republicans who like to consider themselves 'Good Christians', are some of the worst people you'll ever met. They actually despise the least fortunate among us. Jesus is not proud of them. Like i said before, you wanna be greedy & hateful, so be it. But don't call yourself a 'Good Christian.' Because that's not what Jesus was about.

You are confused Moon Bat.

If you would ever go to church the Bible very clearly (both the Old and New Testaments) teaches that charity should come from the heart, church and family.

Nowhere does it say that Christians should outsource charity to a bloated, out of control, oppressive, debt ridden, corrupt, government run by bureaucrats whose bosses are dishonest politicians elected by special interest groups.

By the way Moon Bat. Since you seem to be an authority on Christianity were you in church yesterday? I went to church. We met in the morning and then had a short devotion and then the congregation left the church and went to the local grocery stores and bought food for our food pantry that will be distributed to needed charities in the area. We do this about three or four times a year and yesterday just happen to be one of the days.

So what were you doing yesterday morning Moon Bat? Laying in bed while Christians (mostly right wingers in my church) were out feeding the poor?

Yep. Did the same ...one of our senior centers gives out lists of items requested by seniors every month. Took them three boxes full of stuff like ...

Face moisturizer
Hair gel
Dental floss
Dog food
Veggies
Tuna
Pasta
Coffee
Reading glasses

So now THEY are the exception that proves the rule. Does that make you feel better about supporting the Oblivious Rich White People's Party that ruins the nonrich and the country to save the greedy idiot GOP rich from paying their fair share? And no that's not you...

It is the greedy welfare queens that are robbing us nowadays. They are the real Robber Barons. These asshole elect Democrats and RINOs that use the filthy ass Federal government to steal what they are too sorry to provide for themselves.

I have never had a corporation or business steal from me but every year the damn government takes my money by force and give good portion of it away to the welfare assholes.

 

[Billo_Really]

if you are in the 25% bracket you do not pay 25% of your income

you need to learn how tax brackets work

and only long term capital gains are taxed at 15% short term gains are taxed as regular income

That's where these rich pricks get most of their income. I don't know if they tax dividends, but if they don't, they should, at 25%.

 

[francoHFW]

All poor folks are 'Evil Lazy Welfare' Boogeymen to the average white Republican. They generalize and demonize. It makes them feel justified in hating and abusing the least fortunate among us. It's exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught. Yet most of them truly believe the pearly gates await them. They're lost hateful souls.

Republicans Most Generous People In The World, Democrats: Not So Much

Republicans give more to their churches
Means money goes to Pastors, church maintenance, a new organ, robes for the choir

Doesn't mean the money is going to poor families

Kind of like the way a LOT of money ...goes into welfare programs and doesn't make into the hands of the poor?

Exactly...have you seen the salaries of the people who run Obamacare?

Tiny in comparison to your private CEO's...who runs O-Care? lol. Some 150k/year gov't functionaries...

 

[Billo_Really]

you seem to think you know

I know what I pay and I know what the tax rate is for capital gains.

 

[BlueGin]

and you still can't tell me how what I make has any impact on what you make can you?

You seem to have trouble grasping the concept of a nationwide economy

Think of it as A REALLY BIG PIE
No, not a real pie, but a "theoretical economic pie" that everyone has to feed off of
Now, if Government sets the rules on who gets to slice the pie and who gets to decide how many pieces everyone gets...we have something called economic inequality

Ok then tell me how the guy in NYC who makes 10 million a month is responsible for you and 10 million other people not earning more

Again you struggle with the concept of a national economy
We are not talking about one person having millions, we are talking about $18 trillion in a country of 330 million people

Now...Think of it as A REALLY BIG PIE

Okay...go have all the liberals in Hollywood fork over their fare share and then you can worry about the CEO's you like to whine about.

Those liberals in Hollywood support policies that will raise their taxes

So...they have too much and they don't deserve it.

 

[BlueGin]

You are VERY FORTUNATE. Sounds like ACA needs to go after companies like yours. No wonder health care is so ridiculously expensive. What a scam. Time to worry about alll the less fortunate for a change...

She's not fucking fortunate you retard she has something to offer a company that is willing to pay those vacation days. And the fact you think we should go after a company like that and force them to take those vacation days away and give them to someone else is pathetic. You. Are. The. Problem.

You're a teacher right? Admittedly probably not a good one but let's say you are as you claim. You have some pretty sweet healthcare and retirement benefits along with the salary you're stealing for being such a failure in your profession. How about we just take your money, home, retirement, savings and just give it to someone less fortunate? I think that's a pretty good idea right there. All government employees lose all of their benefits until we help the poor get to an equal level of income.

I think I have found the problem here. It's not those out there trying to work and make a living that need to pay. It's any government employee at any federal, state, city or county level that should work for free. In order to help the poor people.

You will note that earlier he was bloviating that by law we should be getting 4 weeks off or more. And that's why we need unions.

Now the tune changes because I work in healthcare and get 6 weeks. Which is average for most corporations BTW.

It's not average for corporations - not even close. Most corporations top out at 4 weeks. One that I've considered working for tops out at 5. I've never seen 6 in an American corporation. Here's one more reason that healthcare costs go up way faster than inflation and are bloated beyond any other industry.

Another good example of why pharma in particular is a scam is that they hire former beauty queens to go around a flirt with doctors. I knew one about 15 years ago that made 60k for a part time gig. She'd finish by lunch time and go home and drink rum and cokes all afternoon.

That's interesting because even the federal government give employees 6 weeks.

Maximum is five weeks after 15 years

Plus holidays

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Tiny in comparison to your private CEO's...who runs O-Care? lol. Some 150k/year gov't functionaries...

lets make no mistake the health care industry is not a very profitable industry but our libcommies would still want to regulate it and all the other more profitable industries even more so. They don't belong in America?

 

[francoHFW]

[Q

A good Christian certainly wouldn't feel that way. It's not what Jesus preached. Unfortunately, too many Republicans who like to consider themselves 'Good Christians', are some of the worst people you'll ever met. They actually despise the least fortunate among us. Jesus is not proud of them. Like i said before, you wanna be greedy & hateful, so be it. But don't call yourself a 'Good Christian.' Because that's not what Jesus was about.

You are confused Moon Bat.

If you would ever go to church the Bible very clearly (both the Old and New Testaments) teaches that charity should come from the heart, church and family.

Nowhere does it say that Christians should outsource charity to a bloated, out of control, oppressive, debt ridden, corrupt, government run by bureaucrats whose bosses are dishonest politicians elected by special interest groups.

By the way Moon Bat. Since you seem to be an authority on Christianity were you in church yesterday? I went to church. We met in the morning and then had a short devotion and then the congregation left the church and went to the local grocery stores and bought food for our food pantry that will be distributed to needed charities in the area. We do this about three or four times a year and yesterday just happen to be one of the days.

So what were you doing yesterday morning Moon Bat? Laying in bed while Christians (mostly right wingers in my church) were out feeding the poor?

Yep. Did the same ...one of our senior centers gives out lists of items requested by seniors every month. Took them three boxes full of stuff like ...

Face moisturizer
Hair gel
Dental floss
Dog food
Veggies
Tuna
Pasta
Coffee
Reading glasses

So now THEY are the exception that proves the rule. Does that make you feel better about supporting the Oblivious Rich White People's Party that ruins the nonrich and the country to save the greedy idiot GOP rich from paying their fair share? And no that's not you...

It is the greedy welfare queens that are robbing us nowadays. They are the real Robber Barons. These asshole elect Democrats and RINOs that use the filthy ass Federal government to steal what they are too sorry to provide for themselves.

I have never had a corporation or business steal from me but every year the damn government takes my money by force and give good portion of it away to the welfare assholes.

That's hilarious, when basically all the new wealth stays with the 1%, many giant GOP crony corps pay ZERO taxes on huge profits, and the middle class and the country's infrastructure are ruined, jobs for the poor are a joke. Great job, new bs GOP! And the dupes....After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

 

[Billo_Really]

Now you're lying. You claimed that because someone used a Sub Chapter S Corporation, they somehow miraculously saved ten to fifteen on their taxes. Flat out not true and now, typical for a Progressive, you're struggling to change what you said.

Here is what you said:

"BILLO_REALLY SAID: ↑
Doesn't matter whether they are type S or type C, they pay 10% less of a tax rate than I do and that is wrong."

Grow up.

What's up with the strawman, bee-otch?

 

[Billo_Really]

Not that it is any of your business, but what should he be making? how much does he get to keep? do you pay more in taxes than he does?

Because if you are to be taken seriously, at $37,000/hr he pays far more in taxes than you even make...far more, which under the left wing system means he does far more for the poor than you do, if you really want to hurt the poor, let that guy pay what you pay in taxes, that would be hurting them.

And he's paying far less than what he should be.

 

[francoHFW]

Nobody is cruel to the poor, these lefty morons just need something cry about.

What is taking their health insurance away in order to provide a tax cut for the wealthy?

That is bullshit. You are really confused about things like this.

Political leaning have little or nothing to do with creativity.

By the way Moon Bat, making money is a good thing. It keeps you off welfare that keeps other people from having to pay your bills. It is being a "creative" welfare queens that is a bad thing.

I'm far from welfare. I probably make more money than you even though I have an interesting career rather than one that sucks my soul. The reason more people don't have these types of careers is because they require more education and aptitude than most people can muster. They also tend to be pretty specialized. If there's a downside, it's that.

Oh BTW, name me a creative conservative.

I had a good creative career as an Engineering Director. I hired many creative conservative engineers in my time. Even a few Liberal ones.

You are full of bullshit if you suggest that political belief is somehow tied to creativity.

When are you going to stop your deflection and answer the question I asked you three or four times?

Most engineers know nothing about history and politics, so are usually GOP dupes. Their creativity and knowledge is limited to engineering, like yours, dupe. So many accountants, doctors, lawyers, marketers, DITTO.

Have you ever considered not insulting others when you communicate? You might find you can get people to listen more if you stopped

He can't. He is simply one more whiny ass who needs to make himself feel better about putting down others. Classic really.
He is also a hypocrite, he has never sent a dime extra to help his precious "poor".

They don't want your once in a blue moon charity, dupe. They want good jobs, cheap training and ed, and a good safety net for the next corrupt GOP world economic meltdown and day to day misfortune.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That's hilarious, when basically all the new wealth stays with the 1%

because our 1% now have global markets from which to make money. They were best positioned to take advantage of globalization. Lower 50%
have been screwed by liberal taxes and regulations that drove our corps away and by the liberal war on our families schools and churches!!

 

[BlueGin]

All poor folks are 'Evil Lazy Welfare' Boogeymen to the average white Republican. They generalize and demonize. It makes them feel justified in hating and abusing the least fortunate among us. It's exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught. Yet most of them truly believe the pearly gates await them. They're lost hateful souls.

Republicans Most Generous People In The World, Democrats: Not So Much

Republicans give more to their churches
Means money goes to Pastors, church maintenance, a new organ, robes for the choir

Doesn't mean the money is going to poor families

Tithe goes to salaries...offering to charity.

Still deducted on their taxes

The already paid taxes on that money. It came out of their paycheck.

 

[Doc1]

Nobody is cruel to the poor, these lefty morons just need something cry about.

What is taking their health insurance away in order to provide a tax cut for the wealthy?

I'm far from welfare. I probably make more money than you even though I have an interesting career rather than one that sucks my soul. The reason more people don't have these types of careers is because they require more education and aptitude than most people can muster. They also tend to be pretty specialized. If there's a downside, it's that.

Oh BTW, name me a creative conservative.

I had a good creative career as an Engineering Director. I hired many creative conservative engineers in my time. Even a few Liberal ones.

You are full of bullshit if you suggest that political belief is somehow tied to creativity.

When are you going to stop your deflection and answer the question I asked you three or four times?

Most engineers know nothing about history and politics, so are usually GOP dupes. Their creativity and knowledge is limited to engineering, like yours, dupe. So many accountants, doctors, lawyers, marketers, DITTO.

Have you ever considered not insulting others when you communicate? You might find you can get people to listen more if you stopped

He can't. He is simply one more whiny ass who needs to make himself feel better about putting down others. Classic really.
He is also a hypocrite, he has never sent a dime extra to help his precious "poor".

They don't want your once in a blue moon charity, dupe. They want good jobs, cheap training and ed, and a good safety net for the next corrupt GOP world economic meltdown and day to day misfortune.

My point stands, you are a hypocrite. You don't do anymore than anyone else does. Grow up old man.

 

[BlueGin]

All poor folks are 'Evil Lazy Welfare' Boogeymen to the average white Republican. They generalize and demonize. It makes them feel justified in hating and abusing the least fortunate among us. It's exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught. Yet most of them truly believe the pearly gates await them. They're lost hateful souls.

Republicans Most Generous People In The World, Democrats: Not So Much

Republicans give more to their churches
Means money goes to Pastors, church maintenance, a new organ, robes for the choir

Doesn't mean the money is going to poor families

Kind of like the way a LOT of money ...goes into welfare programs and doesn't make into the hands of the poor?

Exactly...have you seen the salaries of the people who run Obamacare?

Tiny in comparison to your private CEO's...who runs O-Care? lol. Some 150k/year gov't functionaries...

Hardly. The flunkies that work for the functionaries make over 80k.

 

[francoHFW]

Tiny in comparison to your private CEO's...who runs O-Care? lol. Some 150k/year gov't functionaries...

lets make no mistake the health care industry is not a very profitable industry but our libcommies would still want to regulate it and all the other more profitable industries even more so. They don't belong in America?

They're HUGELY profitable, and in a industry of necessity like that it's a disgrace, dupissimus.

 

[francoHFW]

Nobody is cruel to the poor, these lefty morons just need something cry about.

What is taking their health insurance away in order to provide a tax cut for the wealthy?

I had a good creative career as an Engineering Director. I hired many creative conservative engineers in my time. Even a few Liberal ones.

You are full of bullshit if you suggest that political belief is somehow tied to creativity.

When are you going to stop your deflection and answer the question I asked you three or four times?

Most engineers know nothing about history and politics, so are usually GOP dupes. Their creativity and knowledge is limited to engineering, like yours, dupe. So many accountants, doctors, lawyers, marketers, DITTO.

Have you ever considered not insulting others when you communicate? You might find you can get people to listen more if you stopped

He can't. He is simply one more whiny ass who needs to make himself feel better about putting down others. Classic really.
He is also a hypocrite, he has never sent a dime extra to help his precious "poor".

They don't want your once in a blue moon charity, dupe. They want good jobs, cheap training and ed, and a good safety net for the next corrupt GOP world economic meltdown and day to day misfortune.

My point stands, you are a hypocrite. You don't do anymore than anyone else does. Grow up old man.

I'm not the dupe of greedy idiots megarich GOPers, dupe. You and your New BS GOP brainwashers have ruined the middle class and the country the last 35 years. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

 

[Doc1]

Nobody is cruel to the poor, these lefty morons just need something cry about.

What is taking their health insurance away in order to provide a tax cut for the wealthy?

Most engineers know nothing about history and politics, so are usually GOP dupes. Their creativity and knowledge is limited to engineering, like yours, dupe. So many accountants, doctors, lawyers, marketers, DITTO.

Have you ever considered not insulting others when you communicate? You might find you can get people to listen more if you stopped

He can't. He is simply one more whiny ass who needs to make himself feel better about putting down others. Classic really.
He is also a hypocrite, he has never sent a dime extra to help his precious "poor".

They don't want your once in a blue moon charity, dupe. They want good jobs, cheap training and ed, and a good safety net for the next corrupt GOP world economic meltdown and day to day misfortune.

My point stands, you are a hypocrite. You don't do anymore than anyone else does. Grow up old man.

I'm not the dupe of greedy idiots megarich GOPers, dupe. You and your New BS GOP brainwashers have ruined the middle class and the country the last 35 years. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

You are an old hypocrite. You do no more than anyone else and yet you constantly point fingers and cry.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Nobody is cruel to the poor, these lefty morons just need something cry about.

What is taking their health insurance away in order to provide a tax cut for the wealthy?

Most engineers know nothing about history and politics, so are usually GOP dupes. Their creativity and knowledge is limited to engineering, like yours, dupe. So many accountants, doctors, lawyers, marketers, DITTO.

Have you ever considered not insulting others when you communicate? You might find you can get people to listen more if you stopped

He can't. He is simply one more whiny ass who needs to make himself feel better about putting down others. Classic really.
He is also a hypocrite, he has never sent a dime extra to help his precious "poor".

They don't want your once in a blue moon charity, dupe. They want good jobs, cheap training and ed, and a good safety net for the next corrupt GOP world economic meltdown and day to day misfortune.

My point stands, you are a hypocrite. You don't do anymore than anyone else does. Grow up old man.

I'm not the dupe of greedy idiots megarich GOPers, dupe. You and your New BS GOP brainwashers have ruined the middle class and the country the last 35 years. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

So 30 years of progressive policies has produced exactly no progress. Some may call that even more years invested in the poverty prevention system. You have accomplished exactly nothing in helping people with your generous donations of other peoples money. When do you think you will learn this?