Why do Americans feel like taxes are somehow the government robbing them of money?

To me taxation is thievery.

I don't mind being shaken down when the money is being used for necessary minimal government services like defense, courts, police etc. I don't mind pooling money to pay for roads.

What is unacceptable is to have government bureaucrats, elected by special interest groups, take the money that I earned and give it to somebody else that didn't earn it.

That is thievery any way you look at it.

Reminds me of a piece Walter E Williams wrote a couple of years ago.

He asked if he were to go into his neighbors home, take money from their dresser drawer, and then give that money to an elderly lady down the street for healthcare she didn't have the money for, would he have broken the law?

Of course I broke the law he said. I would get arrested, have to appear in court, and likely spend some time in jail even though my thoughts were of benevolence. Yet when government does the exact same thing, they are not only not held accountable, but applauded.

Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
 
To me taxation is thievery.

I don't mind being shaken down when the money is being used for necessary minimal government services like defense, courts, police etc. I don't mind pooling money to pay for roads.

What is unacceptable is to have government bureaucrats, elected by special interest groups, take the money that I earned and give it to somebody else that didn't earn it.

That is thievery any way you look at it.

Reminds me of a piece Walter E Williams wrote a couple of years ago.

He asked if he were to go into his neighbors home, take money from their dresser drawer, and then give that money to an elderly lady down the street for healthcare she didn't have the money for, would he have broken the law?

Of course I broke the law he said. I would get arrested, have to appear in court, and likely spend some time in jail even though my thoughts were of benevolence. Yet when government does the exact same thing, they are not only not held accountable, but applauded.

Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.
 
Like I said above,,,why shouldn't people pay taxes on what they use? Civilization from the days of the Roman republic have done the same.
 
To me taxation is thievery.

I don't mind being shaken down when the money is being used for necessary minimal government services like defense, courts, police etc. I don't mind pooling money to pay for roads.

What is unacceptable is to have government bureaucrats, elected by special interest groups, take the money that I earned and give it to somebody else that didn't earn it.

That is thievery any way you look at it.

Reminds me of a piece Walter E Williams wrote a couple of years ago.

He asked if he were to go into his neighbors home, take money from their dresser drawer, and then give that money to an elderly lady down the street for healthcare she didn't have the money for, would he have broken the law?

Of course I broke the law he said. I would get arrested, have to appear in court, and likely spend some time in jail even though my thoughts were of benevolence. Yet when government does the exact same thing, they are not only not held accountable, but applauded.

Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.


Our founders that signed the constitutions believed in taxes...So you'd pretty much have to be a archaist to believe as you do.
 
Reminds me of a piece Walter E Williams wrote a couple of years ago.

He asked if he were to go into his neighbors home, take money from their dresser drawer, and then give that money to an elderly lady down the street for healthcare she didn't have the money for, would he have broken the law?

Of course I broke the law he said. I would get arrested, have to appear in court, and likely spend some time in jail even though my thoughts were of benevolence. Yet when government does the exact same thing, they are not only not held accountable, but applauded.

Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.


Our founders that signed the constitutions believed in taxes...So you'd pretty much have to be a archaist to believe as you do.
Our Founders put an income tax in the Constitution? WOw, who knew?
You are totally clueless. Give up.
 
I have no problem with paying my taxes under a few simple conditions......

1. The monies are used for ONLY legitimate, Constitutional purposes.

2. Tax rates are equal across the entire spectrum and there are no deductions.

3. Only NEW income is taxed. Proceeds of previously taxed income should not be taxed.

Good thing you're impotent. We'd really be in a mess if you had any authority.


I'll agree with Anathermna on one thing and no deductions/loop holes when it comes to the cheating rich would be a good idea. Otherwise, I agree with you in being glad such people are impotent.
 
Because it's the government robbing me of money.

Robbery is a crime. Your comment goes beyond ignorance, it's stupid.

Yes, but not all crimes are illegal.

Holy Hot dog batman, this guy ^^^ is off his buns

Oh, he might be right. It's a crime that the oil and coal industry pollute our air, water and soil, but since they donate money to members of Congress such behavior is not illegal. I get it now.
 
Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.


Our founders that signed the constitutions believed in taxes...So you'd pretty much have to be a archaist to believe as you do.
Our Founders put an income tax in the Constitution? WOw, who knew?
You are totally clueless. Give up.


You're clueless little archaist fag that wants to cut everything that makes this country great. You're a enemy of this country.
 
Do they use our roads?
Do they use our police?
Do they enjoy the rights they have gained to work and get paid well?
Do they like eating clean food and drinking clean water?

Then no, it is not robbing anything from them as they're enjoying the benefits of paying it.
You obviously don't make enough money to realize how much the government takes from some people.

A single dollar of a person's income is taxed over and over again via income tax, social security tax, property tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, state and federally.

Then when you die they take 40% of your lifetime earnings from you.

It's bullshit.
let's abolish our drug war to lower our tax burden.
Making more junkies so they can be as stupid as you will cost us more money in the long run

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Nothing could be as costly as this drug war.
Your Canadian opinion doesn't matter

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What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.


Our founders that signed the constitutions believed in taxes...So you'd pretty much have to be a archaist to believe as you do.
Our Founders put an income tax in the Constitution? WOw, who knew?
You are totally clueless. Give up.


You're clueless little archaist fag that wants to cut everything that makes this country great. You're a enemy of this country.
Did you use spellcheck to help you with the big words, Sparky?
 
Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).
The Holocaust was a legal action too.


Our founders that signed the constitutions believed in taxes...So you'd pretty much have to be a archaist to believe as you do.
Our Founders put an income tax in the Constitution? WOw, who knew?
You are totally clueless. Give up.
One can argue that Art. I, sec. 8 clause 1 authorizes a tax on income; but the specific law allowing for an income tax is in the 16th Amendment.
 
I'll agree with Anathermna on one thing and no deductions/loop holes when it comes to the cheating rich would be a good idea. Otherwise, I agree with you in being glad such people are impotent.

Wow. Another one who openly admits the US Constitution is toilet paper so far as he's concerned.
 
Do they use our roads?
Do they use our police?
Do they enjoy the rights they have gained to work and get paid well?
Do they like eating clean food and drinking clean water?

Then no, it is not robbing anything from them as they're enjoying the benefits of paying it.
You obviously don't make enough money to realize how much the government takes from some people.

A single dollar of a person's income is taxed over and over again via income tax, social security tax, property tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, state and federally.

Then when you die they take 40% of your lifetime earnings from you.

It's bullshit.
let's abolish our drug war to lower our tax burden.
Making more junkies so they can be as stupid as you will cost us more money in the long run

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Nothing could be as costly as this drug war.
Your Canadian opinion doesn't matter

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I'm American, and I vote, so it does matter.
 
Because it's the government robbing me of money.

Robbery is a crime. Your comment goes beyond ignorance, it's stupid.

Yes, but not all crimes are illegal.

Holy Hot dog batman, this guy ^^^ is off his buns

Oh, he might be right. It's a crime that the oil and coal industry pollute our air, water and soil, but since they donate money to members of Congress such behavior is not illegal. I get it now.

It's also a crime that you're allowed to vote and post your idiot opinions on public message boards.
 
To me taxation is thievery.

I don't mind being shaken down when the money is being used for necessary minimal government services like defense, courts, police etc. I don't mind pooling money to pay for roads.

What is unacceptable is to have government bureaucrats, elected by special interest groups, take the money that I earned and give it to somebody else that didn't earn it.

That is thievery any way you look at it.

Reminds me of a piece Walter E Williams wrote a couple of years ago.

He asked if he were to go into his neighbors home, take money from their dresser drawer, and then give that money to an elderly lady down the street for healthcare she didn't have the money for, would he have broken the law?

Of course I broke the law he said. I would get arrested, have to appear in court, and likely spend some time in jail even though my thoughts were of benevolence. Yet when government does the exact same thing, they are not only not held accountable, but applauded.

Another stupid comment. I don't believe you guys are this stupid, so stop trying to prove me wrong.

What's stupid about it, because it's the truth?

If not, tell me where I went wrong. Theft is the action of taking a persons property against their will.

We live in a democratic republic, we the people elect those who pass laws. When a tax law is passed it is a legal action, not a criminal act. That's why your comment was stupid (I didn't write you are stupid, only the comment was).

It's also a criminal act. It was legal in Nazi Germany to shove Jews into gas ovens. That's your standard of ethics.
 
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No. I unlike you don't see cops ad evil pigs so I like them there protecting my family as well as they can . Unlike you I don't see men like my brother in law who is in our fine military as a baby killer and am proud to pay for them to protect my children from the terrorists Obama wants to fund. You see I love my country where you do not

Nobody is being "protected" when you use the government to steal what you cannot earn or provide for yourself. All you are doing is taking what you did not earn.

You are just being a simple thief. It may be legal because the government does the thievery for you but it is nothing more than despicable stealing no matter how you look at it.
 
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No. I unlike you don't see cops ad evil pigs so I like them there protecting my family as well as they can . Unlike you I don't see men like my brother in law who is in our fine military as a baby killer and am proud to pay for them to protect my children from the terrorists Obama wants to fund. You see I love my country where you do not

Nobody is being "protected" when you use the government to steal what you cannot earn or provide for yourself. All you are doing is taking what you did not earn.

You are just being a simple thief. It may be legal because the government does the thievery for you but it is nothing more than despicable stealing no matter how you look at it.

Taxation is nothing more than legalized theft.
 
I just can‘t seem to understand why so many Americans are extremely sensitive when it comes to taxes, and often oppose strongly of a progressive tax system.
At least personally, I think of taxes as giving back to the society and community, and I enjoy many of the governments services every day.
Also. I don‘t understand the objection towards a progressive taxation system
To use a simple analogy...if you had a bucket that had gaping holes in it...how long would you pour water into that bucket trying to keep it filled before you got wise and fixed the leaks?

As for "progressive taxation"? My biggest problem with it is that if people don't have skin in the game...then they have no incentive to make their representatives spend those taxes in a responsible way. It's not my money...so who cares if it's being wasted! That's the mindset you get when large portions of the population don't have to pay taxes.

Let's tax the poor, is that your gripe? The working poor are subjected to a constant barrage of attacks for working hard and falling further behind; now the callous conservative set wants them to pay taxes, presumably because the well to do carry to much of the burden.

The middle class have skin in the game, and have zero ability to influence the Congress, only the special interests, power elite, corporation and industry have their ear because they fill their pocket books.

All I'm doing is pointing out the what happens when people who don't pay taxes have the ability to vote for politicians who promise them "freebies". If you don't have skin in the game then you don't care how taxes are spent...because it's not money out of YOUR pocket! Why shouldn't the poor pay a percentage of what they make in taxes like everyone else?

The OP asked why so many Americans were so "sensitive" about being asked to pay more in taxes and my answer addressed that. If you've worked extremely hard to become successful it's only natural that you're going to resent having your hard earned money going to support people who have no desire to work.

If you truly have concerns over the "working poor" then how about we address where it is that they DO pay taxes? So called "sin taxes" on cigarettes, alcohol, and gambling hit poor people far harder than any progressive income tax ever has. The same liberal politicians that scream bloody murder about the rich not paying enough in taxes quietly increase taxes on the things that poor people purchase as well as the "fees" that they pay.
What do you mean by don't pay taxes. I wish the right would stop lying about the least wealthy not paying any taxes.

The wealthiest tend to vote more often than the least wealthy, and their tax loopholes large enough to drive a yacht through are sufficient proof.
 

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