Ray From Cleveland
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No, it's called living in reality.
I know what our past was. I know how it was formed, and I know why it died. I also know there is nothing you can do to bring it back. Automation and robots are not going to melt and never return. Overseas wages are not going to increase to such a point there will be no place to manufacture but the USA. American consumers are not going to change their priorities. Investors are not going to settle for lower profits.
When you can come to terms with those realities, only then will you be able to understand you can't turn the clock back. All you can do is put the cards on the table, look them over, and then make plans for the future.
Yes completely defeated. Not very American.
When do you expect the end? We continue on this course and the debt will kill us.
So creating more debt will help?
I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I'm glad I'll be off this planet (or at the very least, retired) before that happens. Manual labor jobs are being replaced by robots and automation. Even fast food restaurants are purchasing self-serve kiosks to have customers place orders and pay for their food. Down the road, those robots will be pouring your drinks, making your french fries, and even creating the hamburger you're going to eat. The entire restaurant will be run by one or two humans.
Automation is becoming cheaper and labor is becoming more expensive. I don't see the advantage of making labor so expensive that automation is the best investment for the future. JC Pennies closed down hundreds of stores. So did Game Stop recently. They are joining the many stores closing in the country because of internet sales. What are we supposed to do with the thousands of Americans that used to work in these stores?
Thinking of being a cab driver? How about working for Uber? Well, those are short-term incomes, because in the near future, cabs and Uber vehicles will be manless vehicles. You summons a car, swipe your credit card or debit card, and the vehicle will magically drive you to the destination you entered in the computer system of the vehicle.
It's very frightening. I don't know what the answer is. But I do know that forcing industry to overpay manual labor will only speed up this disaster.
Getting people off welfare and creating more tax payers will decrease debt.
If automation is your big fear it would be very easy to tax it so it is not profitable.
If that's the way we're going to handle things, then should't we tax cars so it's cheaper to go horse and buggy? Shouldn't we have a huge tax on refrigerators since not having them will create jobs by bringing back ice men to deliver blocks of ice to your home? How about a huge tax on backhoes because they replaced ditch diggers?
Pretty sure there is much more labor involved in car over buggies. Ice men were replaced by refrigerator manufacturing. How many ditch diggers lost out?
If you think automation is the problem I simply gave you an easy answer.
My question is do we slow down or even halt advancements because those advancements take jobs away? And what if we did do that the last 50 years or so? Would we have cell phones today, cable or satellite television, home video games?
You're never going to be able to tax something so high that it won't be worth the investment. Human labor and benefits are only going to continue increasing, and even more so as liberal cities and states force industry to overpay their labor.