Why do the people who voted for Hillary want to pay more taxes?

[Crepitus]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

Somebody's gotta pay for that huge budget you guys just passed. If you don't want it to be your grandkids it's time to step up.

I paid for all the budgets, they are swamp creatures. we know this. we are witnessing it. government is only roads, security, millitary. Welfare is not government. never has been. stop making like it is. It is charity and taxes are not charity. the left ruined charity to the poor. their blatant hate of christians is why.

That post makes no sense. Clarify please.

it says what it says.

Then it says, and this is a direct quote, "I am a very confused person who cannot construct sentences that convey any meaning".

Maybe you should try again?

 

[dblack]

We don’t want bigger government

We want the right sized government

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

Right now the Govt is adding an average of $4,188,972,073 to the national debt...every single day. Pretty much everyone says they do not want this to be happening yet it is still going on...is the government itself not running roughshod over us right now?

Yes. The campaign to remove limits on government power has been largely successful.

 

[bripat9643]

Liberals are so damn stupid they think bigger government is better government.

The assholes want higher taxes to pay for it, providing they are not the ones having to pay the taxes. They are greedy selfish little bastards like that.

We don’t want bigger government

We want the right sized government

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

The phrase "constitutionally limited government" is an oxymoron. The Constitution utterly failed to limit our government. In fact it was the vehicle that allowed the bootlickers to grow the government to previously unimaginable proportions.

 

[bripat9643]

We don’t want bigger government

We want the right sized government

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

Right now the Govt is adding an average of $4,188,972,073 to the national debt...every single day. Pretty much everyone says they do not want this to be happening yet it is still going on...is the government itself not running roughshod over us right now?

Of course it is. Government is run for the benefit of the governing class.

 

[francoHFW]

Looking at IRS site, which actually works unlike your link, you are spouting complete BS, as usual.

Rich may pay less taxes only to the extent which they have capital gains. But then that money is taxed twice in a row, while salary isn't. Franco is full of deception and lies as always.

The concept that taxes on capital gains is taxed twice is disingenuine.

The original idea was that it would be taxed partially when it is declared as profit by the company, and then the rest of the tax would be imposed when it was distributed as a dividend.

The idea was to give companies incentive to not distribute their profits, but to hold onto them and reinvest the money. That means expansion, job creation and a booming economy.

The problem with that is that democrats act like taxes are for revenue generation, but you have proven they are for behavior modification, which is bad, very bad. Companies either know how to run their business or they die, it shouldn't be interfered by the govt.

The government's job is to promote the welfare of the American people. It is not dedicated to the free market system.

If it helps the American people when business reinvests it's profits and grows than the government should implement a tax policy that promotes that.

No, that is not the governments job. Protecting you from predators, foreign and domestic, is the government's job. That's it's only legitimate function.

In a far better society far far away at least. Today the government does whatever it can get away with. In a modern democracy there is little hope to tame this beast apart from a revolution.

In democracy where everyone gets to vote, we ultimately all dragged to the lowest common standard, which the leftists of the board of course have fully absorbed. As such, the idiots are having kids at the expense of the decent people, and each year the populace becomes dumber and dumber. There is no limit to the regress...

This is the recipe how to become a 3rd world country. And the leftists are of course cheering on every step.

Link to that BS, super duper?

 

[francoHFW]

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

Right now the Govt is adding an average of $4,188,972,073 to the national debt...every single day. Pretty much everyone says they do not want this to be happening yet it is still going on...is the government itself not running roughshod over us right now?

Of course it is. Government is run for the benefit of the governing class.

With brainwashed functional morons like you voting 4 the new BS GOP and Crooks it is. Why are we the only rich modern country without living wage good infrastructure Healthcare daycare parental leave vacations cheap University and training, and of course the worst inequality and lowest taxes on the rich? Thanks scumbag GOP and silly dupes. Thanks also for allowing 9/11 through sheer incompetence, stupidest Wars ever, and acorrupt World depression. Great job!

 

[francoHFW]

The concept that taxes on capital gains is taxed twice is disingenuine.

The original idea was that it would be taxed partially when it is declared as profit by the company, and then the rest of the tax would be imposed when it was distributed as a dividend.

The idea was to give companies incentive to not distribute their profits, but to hold onto them and reinvest the money. That means expansion, job creation and a booming economy.

The problem with that is that democrats act like taxes are for revenue generation, but you have proven they are for behavior modification, which is bad, very bad. Companies either know how to run their business or they die, it shouldn't be interfered by the govt.

The government's job is to promote the welfare of the American people. It is not dedicated to the free market system.

If it helps the American people when business reinvests it's profits and grows than the government should implement a tax policy that promotes that.

No, that is not the governments job. Protecting you from predators, foreign and domestic, is the government's job. That's it's only legitimate function.

In a far better society far far away at least. Today the government does whatever it can get away with. In a modern democracy there is little hope to tame this beast apart from a revolution.

In democracy where everyone gets to vote, we ultimately all dragged to the lowest common standard, which the leftists of the board of course have fully absorbed. As such, the idiots are having kids at the expense of the decent people, and each year the populace becomes dumber and dumber. There is no limit to the regress...

This is the recipe how to become a 3rd world country. And the leftists are of course cheering on every step.

Democracy is rule by the dumbest 51% of the population.

When the 51% are brainwashed by BS propaganda it is.... Thanks GOP scumbags and silly dupes like you....

 

[dblack]

We don’t want bigger government

We want the right sized government

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

The phrase "constitutionally limited government" is an oxymoron. The Constitution utterly failed to limit our government. In fact it was the vehicle that allowed the bootlickers to grow the government to previously unimaginable proportions.

Hmm.. Do you think we'd have been better off without it?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

You know you can send the Gubmint more money any time you want. Come on....Show us your Christian Charity.

 

[francoHFW]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Since you obviously don't know what you are talking about let me explain it to you.

The Bible teaches that charity should come from the heart, church and family. You would know this if you ever attended a church.

There is nothing in there about having an obligation to have your money taken by force by a corrupt, bloated, out of control welfare state government and given to filthy ass special interest groups.

Charity doesn't work... overheads r often ridiculous and it runs out when the GOP starts another depression or recession.

LOL! Charity doesn't work because you greedy little socialist bastards don't want to be charitable with your own money. You only want to be "charitable" with somebody else money.

Government transfer payments are very seldom used for the real needy. It is mostly used to buy votes and political support from the welfare queens for the corrupt politicians.

Actually, if we weren't taxed so much all of us would have much more money to give to those in need.

The combined cost of government in this out of control country is almost 40% of the GDP. With that much money taken away from the productive economy and out of the pockets of Americans we don't have too much money to spend on thins that really count, like helping the real needy.

The cost of combined government (direct and indirect) is usually the highest household expense of every American family regardless of income.

...and you stupid Liberals want to make it more. Despicable!

How about we do this. I give money to those I chose to help and you give money to those you chose to help. Leave the filthy corrupt bloated government out of it. That is called Liberty. You up for Liberty Moon Bat?

It is the GOP that has cut Federal taxes on the rich which leads to higher state and local taxes and fees which kill the Non rich. And you brainwashed idiots don't know Democrats want to hike taxes only on the rich. Forever.

 

[bgrouse]

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

Right now the Govt is adding an average of $4,188,972,073 to the national debt...every single day. Pretty much everyone says they do not want this to be happening yet it is still going on...is the government itself not running roughshod over us right now?

Yes. The campaign to remove limits on government power has been largely successful.

Not much of a campaign. It's not like they repealed the second. They just pretend it doesn't exist, like pretending 2+2=5.

 

[Flash]

We don’t want bigger government

We want the right sized government

Actually that's right wingers
left wingers want socialist utopia, which we right wingers call anarchy.
because we know we NEED govt, we just want it really really small.

The voters should decide how much or how little government they want

Nope. The voters have no right to impose tyranny on me. They can go fuck themselves.

The entire point of constitutionally limited government is to prevent the majority from running roughshod over our rights. Some people want to change that - they want to remove such restrictions and allow the majority to do any damned thing it wants.

The phrase "constitutionally limited government" is an oxymoron. The Constitution utterly failed to limit our government. In fact it was the vehicle that allowed the bootlickers to grow the government to previously unimaginable proportions.

Agree!

The Bill of Rights was a great idea to limit the destructiveness and oppressiveness of the filthy ass government but was not strong enough to stop the greed and thievery of the Liberals.

 

[idb]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Can you point to the bible verse where Jesus commanded that we pay taxes to the government?

I recall him overturning the taxmans tables in the temple...……….

give unto Caesar, what is Caesar's, give unto God, what is God's...

is ALL ABOUT PAYING YOUR TAXES!

Jesus said to give to Cesar what is Cesars. However if you have a brain, which you don't you would know that Cesar deserved nothing which is why Rome FELL...………………

So how are your kids today?

So, now you're saying that Jesus didn't have a brain!
Typical Liberal Jesus-hater!

 

[Dragonlady]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Can you point to the bible verse where Jesus commanded that we pay taxes to the government?

I recall him overturning the taxmans tables in the temple...……….

You’re not much of a Christian, are you?

Jesus didn’t overturn the taxman’s table in the Temple. He overturned the money changers’ tables. They changed Roman and Greek money for Jewish money, taking a profit from those they served. Jesus took issue to profit being made in the Lord’s house.

“Render to Ceasar what is Caesar’s”. Money is a government concept and Jesus dealt in spiritual matters but on money he was clear: “The love of money is the root of all evil.”

Americans want a first world country and taxes are your share of the cost of living in a first world country. If you want to live tax free, there are lots of countries you can move to but it’s going to cost you for round the clock security to protect you from thieves. The roads, if there are any, are crap and don’t drink the water and be careful with the food.

Taxes aren’t the theft of your hard earned dollars. Their your share of the costs of running your country, paying for your schools, roads and infrastructure, and that huge ass military you seem to deem necessary to your defence.

 

[Norman]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Can you point to the bible verse where Jesus commanded that we pay taxes to the government?

I recall him overturning the taxmans tables in the temple...……….

You’re not much of a Christian, are you?

Jesus didn’t overturn the taxman’s table in the Temple. He overturned the money changers’ tables. They changed Roman and Greek money for Jewish money, taking a profit from those they served. Jesus took issue to profit being made in the Lord’s house.

“Render to Ceasar what is Caesar’s”. Money is a government concept and Jesus dealt in spiritual matters but on money he was clear: “The love of money is the root of all evil.”

Americans want a first world country and taxes are your share of the cost of living in a first world country. If you want to live tax free, there are lots of countries you can move to but it’s going to cost you for round the clock security to protect you from thieves. The roads, if there are any, are crap and don’t drink the water and be careful with the food.

Taxes aren’t the theft of your hard earned dollars. Their your share of the costs of running your country, paying for your schools, roads and infrastructure, and that huge ass military you seem to deem necessary to your defence.

Liberal tax policy is such that it's making this country 3rd world country slowly but surely.

Oh by the way, the taxes used to be 5%, now they are 40%. Why are they so high? So that you could have bunch of free stuff. That's not civilization...

 

[rightwinger]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Since you obviously don't know what you are talking about let me explain it to you.

The Bible teaches that charity should come from the heart, church and family. You would know this if you ever attended a church.

There is nothing in there about having an obligation to have your money taken by force by a corrupt, bloated, out of control welfare state government and given to filthy ass special interest groups.

Here's something that JESUS DID SAY:

"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

When God starts issuing currency then you can complain about paying taxes to the government.

How about if we go back to private banks issuing currency and banknotes. Did you know why they are called "banknotes?"

And when the bank goes belly up?

The discussion here is about Richard's theory that money has value only because government gives it value.

Money is just paper and metal slugs
No intrinsic value

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

Most liberals are convinced its someone ELSE who will end up paying the higher taxes. Look at Trump's tax reform bill liberals in high tax blue states squealed like stuck pigs.

Most of the extra taxes would be paid by those best able to pay it

 

[bgrouse]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

Can you point to the bible verse where Jesus commanded that we pay taxes to the government?

I recall him overturning the taxmans tables in the temple...……….

You’re not much of a Christian, are you?

Jesus didn’t overturn the taxman’s table in the Temple. He overturned the money changers’ tables. They changed Roman and Greek money for Jewish money, taking a profit from those they served. Jesus took issue to profit being made in the Lord’s house.

“Render to Ceasar what is Caesar’s”. Money is a government concept and Jesus dealt in spiritual matters but on money he was clear: “The love of money is the root of all evil.”

Americans want a first world country and taxes are your share of the cost of living in a first world country. If you want to live tax free, there are lots of countries you can move to but it’s going to cost you for round the clock security to protect you from thieves. The roads, if there are any, are crap and don’t drink the water and be careful with the food.

Taxes aren’t the theft of your hard earned dollars. Their your share of the costs of running your country, paying for your schools, roads and infrastructure, and that huge ass military you seem to deem necessary to your defence.

Liberal tax policy is such that it's making this country 3rd world country slowly but surely.

Oh by the way, the taxes used to be 5%, now they are 40%. Why are they so high? So that you could have bunch of free stuff. That's not civilization...

Was that back when the US army comprised 100,000 men with little more than bolt action rifles?

 

[francoHFW]

Christian charity maybe?
You know...wanting to take care of their fellow citizens like Jesus commanded?

You know you can send the Gubmint more money any time you want. Come on....Show us your Christian Charity.

Seriously one of the most dumbass dupe arguments. We only want the rich to pay more percentage wise than the middle class so the country stops falling apart, dingleberry Dupe. And yes we want the scumbag Republican rich who caused this mess to pay as well duh.

 

[bgrouse]

Seriously, this is illogical and ignorant. So why do you want to keep less of your money and give more away to the government?

Be specific please

I don't want to pay more taxes - I want TRUMP to pay any taxes at all!

That makes no sense

I want TRUMP to pay any taxes at all![/

huh????

Trump doesn't pay taxes - That makes him "smart"

How do people know Trump pays no taxes? Have they seen all of his and his businesses's tax returns for that period of time?