Why Do You Love The Communists?

So by Bear's reasoning, (1) all the opponents of Mormon Polygamy in the 19th century were wrong because of the great numbers opposing; (2) the majority opponents of McCain in 2008 were wrong of their great numbers; (3) the great numbers who oppose shit sandwiches show that the few who like them are right.

You mindlessly chattering chipmunk.
 
Keys is not a mainstream Republican, first.

Americans overwhelmingly support suffrage of adults and older teens who are citizens, second. Some states take that right away from felons.

Only those, like Keys, who know they can never get the vote, want to limit suffrage.
 
Republicans do try to stop people from voting.

Yes... And that is because Americans believe that everyone only gets ONE VOTE... so we are all about stopping people from voting MORE THAN ONCE. Which is what you're desperately trying to avoid admitting.

How many Americans have ever been convicted of voting more than once?

Zero...

Leftist on the other hand... well that's another thing entirely.

12 charged with voter fraud in Georgia election
The Quitman 12, the case you are referring to, were acquitted in 2014. The acquittal followed years of civil rights marches in their support. It was heralded as a victory for black citizens of the region that claimed the arrest had been an effort to dissuade black voters from participating in school board elections.

prlog.org/12407435-remaining-11-defendents-in-quitman-12-trial-aquitted-victory-for-voter-rights-and-gotv.html
 
Only fascists on the far right oppose the suffrage.

PC, post a topic on it in the CDZ.
 
I've been banned from both left and right forums because I'm an independent. Not drinking the koolaid from either side doesn't make one a mental incompetent, but drinking the koolaid does.

Oh please from what I have seen from the vast majority of your posts you are way left of center.
So is Bernie Sanders. And before you say that he is running as a dem, forget it. You know that the election is rigged by both the dems and repubs, as shown by Ralph Nader four times.

On rare occasion we do agree on something. :eusa_clap:
 
Republicans do try to stop people from voting.

Yes... And that is because Americans believe that everyone only gets ONE VOTE... so we are all about stopping people from voting MORE THAN ONCE. Which is what you're desperately trying to avoid admitting.

How many Americans have ever been convicted of voting more than once?

Zero...

Leftist on the other hand... well that's another thing entirely.

12 charged with voter fraud in Georgia election
The Quitman 12, the case you are referring to, were acquitted in 2014. The acquittal followed years of civil rights marches in their support. It was heralded as a victory for black citizens of the region that claimed the arrest had been an effort to dissuade black voters from participating in school board elections.

prlog.org/12407435-remaining-11-defendents-in-quitman-12-trial-aquitted-victory-for-voter-rights-and-gotv.html

Well, the acquittals do not change the fact that while they were guilty, they simply avoided adjudication of the charges, subsequently avoiding the consequences for such. They are as guilty of the crime today, as they were the day they committed the crime.

The trials were a joke, with multiple mistrials declared and an administrative decision to not try the remaining eleven.

The issue here is the election fraud, not the degenerate nature of the court that failed to convict them despite indisputable evidence that they defrauded the election.
 
Keys, the acquittals mean not guilty.

Once again, you are not an authority.
 
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"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.


A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

The people of Salem, MA who murdered witches are now dead, as are most of those who believed fascism and communism were worthy foundations to form policies, later discovered as as harmful as there Salem progenitors.

Today's arch conservatives feel the same way, they believe they have found the truth, the way forward. In fact 21st Century Conservatives support exclusion and scapegoating which is the basis for all of PoliticalChic's proselytizing, and is little different than the attitude of 20th Century despots (and their followers) or 17th Century murderers. Callous conservatives are fast fading from the landscape, they only thrive, or believe they do, in the anonymity of the internet.

PC has once again proved that she cannot post a rebuttal which does not include an attack on the intelligence of her tormentor and anyone who dares to question her.

Q. How credible is one who must rely on the most basic logical fallacies.



'Tormentor'????

Your'e the king's fool.

Queen's in this case.



I defined Leftists for you earlier.

Here's the correct definition of conservatives, e.g., the Founders: a view based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now....go ahead and prove my contention that you are incapable of learning.

Without personal attacks, red herrings, straw men, appeals to ignorance and authority, PC would be struck mute. Thus I recommend that the powers that be hire a logician to monitor the board and move any thread or post which includes such rhetoric to be moved immediately to a new forum: The Lonnie Lounge.

As for the definition of "leftist", the answer is simple: The Founders mostly sided with the people, the Torries with the Monarchy. Today, the liberals side with the people, and the conservatives side with the power elite; the new aristocracy which has eschewed noblesse oblige and redefined avarice as a virtue and not a deadly sin.



I've reduced you to a web of lies, the usual post from the less intellectually endowed, and those prone to dishonesty.


But....you still make me laugh.

I do? You have an odd way of showing it.
 
No, you weren't. :lol: I did not post a fallcy as an OP.

The fact is that the OP here is a classic loaded question fallacy, bear. It is similar to "have you stopped beating your children" or "why do you love shoplifting" etc. Anyone who posts in CDZ can't do that.
 
1. Slippery slope.

2. Appeal to authority.

3. black-or-white.

4. Straw man.

5. Straw man.

6. Straw man.

7. Burden of Proof.

8. Another PC thread.
 
One of the egregious errors in this OP is comparing the Communist Manifesto to supposedly what the Democratic Party stands for.

I would suggest that PC compare our Constitution to that of Russia. She will find many parallels. That does not make us a nation like Russia.
 
That question for you Liberals.
Yeah, you do. You accept them the way you'd accept a goofy uncle, y'know.....'a little strange but not a bad guy.'


OK...I understand why you hate, abhor the Nazis.

I know what they did....I see the Nazi villains in the movies....I recognize the references to 'grammar Nazi.' That makes sense.
But the fact that the same visceral hatred is not assigned to communists....the shrug, the sophisticated chuckle/sneer at those persistent anti-communists...
.....is the proof that you have been indoctrinated, brain-washed, manipulated.


Because the communists were far worse, and for far longer.





Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

1. Remember that communism, Karl Marx, goes back to mid19th century....and took over Russia early in the 20 century. Not long after, it had cells and well organized branches in almost every western nation. From the start, they knew the value of psychological indoctrinations.


2. In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to persuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to.

a. Lenin, and then Stalin, carefully arranged the tours so that these progressives would then go back to their countries and praise Soviet Russia, so that the citizens would demand that Russia be recognized....'worker's paradise' and all.

H.G. Wells met with Stalin in 1934, and wrote “I’ve never met a man more candid, fair and honest!” and “…everyone trusts him!’ And of Lenin, “…frank, refreshing, and an amazing little man!’

George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin, as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors, the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.” He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!

And, of course, John Dewey.
See "Dupes," by Paul Kengor



When he returned from the Soviet Union, Shaw backed up ever lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.119


None of this was taught to you in government schools....was it?

Sorry, but other than the couple dead ones you referenced, what living liberals are lovers of communists?
 
1. Slippery slope.

2. Appeal to authority.

3. black-or-white.

4. Straw man.

5. Straw man.

6. Straw man.

7. Burden of Proof.

ROFLMNAO

It's a Leftist Resume...

Nut, you should know that the Board is well aware of the constructs most commonly used by you and your cult.

But thank you for sharing, nonetheless.
 
That question for you Liberals.
Yeah, you do. You accept them the way you'd accept a goofy uncle, y'know.....'a little strange but not a bad guy.'


OK...I understand why you hate, abhor the Nazis.

I know what they did....I see the Nazi villains in the movies....I recognize the references to 'grammar Nazi.' That makes sense.
But the fact that the same visceral hatred is not assigned to communists....the shrug, the sophisticated chuckle/sneer at those persistent anti-communists...
.....is the proof that you have been indoctrinated, brain-washed, manipulated.


Because the communists were far worse, and for far longer.





Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

1. Remember that communism, Karl Marx, goes back to mid19th century....and took over Russia early in the 20 century. Not long after, it had cells and well organized branches in almost every western nation. From the start, they knew the value of psychological indoctrinations.


2. In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to persuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to.

a. Lenin, and then Stalin, carefully arranged the tours so that these progressives would then go back to their countries and praise Soviet Russia, so that the citizens would demand that Russia be recognized....'worker's paradise' and all.

H.G. Wells met with Stalin in 1934, and wrote “I’ve never met a man more candid, fair and honest!” and “…everyone trusts him!’ And of Lenin, “…frank, refreshing, and an amazing little man!’

George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin, as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors, the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.” He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!

And, of course, John Dewey.
See "Dupes," by Paul Kengor



When he returned from the Soviet Union, Shaw backed up ever lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.119


None of this was taught to you in government schools....was it?

Sorry, but other than the couple dead ones you referenced, what living liberals are lovers of communists?

Well, please take a moment to run down the specific traits of communism, that you are prepared to demonstrate that the erroneously labeled 'liberals', reject... .

I'd offer a list, but I think it only fair that you present this gulf of distinction, between Progressivism and communism.
 
That question for you Liberals.
Yeah, you do. You accept them the way you'd accept a goofy uncle, y'know.....'a little strange but not a bad guy.'


OK...I understand why you hate, abhor the Nazis.

I know what they did....I see the Nazi villains in the movies....I recognize the references to 'grammar Nazi.' That makes sense.
But the fact that the same visceral hatred is not assigned to communists....the shrug, the sophisticated chuckle/sneer at those persistent anti-communists...
.....is the proof that you have been indoctrinated, brain-washed, manipulated.


Because the communists were far worse, and for far longer.







Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

1. Remember that communism, Karl Marx, goes back to mid19th century....and took over Russia early in the 20 century. Not long after, it had cells and well organized branches in almost every western nation. From the start, they knew the value of psychological indoctrinations.


2. In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to persuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to.

a. Lenin, and then Stalin, carefully arranged the tours so that these progressives would then go back to their countries and praise Soviet Russia, so that the citizens would demand that Russia be recognized....'worker's paradise' and all.

H.G. Wells met with Stalin in 1934, and wrote “I’ve never met a man more candid, fair and honest!” and “…everyone trusts him!’ And of Lenin, “…frank, refreshing, and an amazing little man!’

George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin, as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors, the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.” He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!

And, of course, John Dewey.
See "Dupes," by Paul Kengor



When he returned from the Soviet Union, Shaw backed up ever lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.119


None of this was taught to you in government schools....was it?

Sorry, but other than the couple dead ones you referenced, what living liberals are lovers of communists?


Any who voted for Obama.
 
That question for you Liberals.
Yeah, you do. You accept them the way you'd accept a goofy uncle, y'know.....'a little strange but not a bad guy.'


OK...I understand why you hate, abhor the Nazis.

I know what they did....I see the Nazi villains in the movies....I recognize the references to 'grammar Nazi.' That makes sense.
But the fact that the same visceral hatred is not assigned to communists....the shrug, the sophisticated chuckle/sneer at those persistent anti-communists...
.....is the proof that you have been indoctrinated, brain-washed, manipulated.


Because the communists were far worse, and for far longer.







Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

1. Remember that communism, Karl Marx, goes back to mid19th century....and took over Russia early in the 20 century. Not long after, it had cells and well organized branches in almost every western nation. From the start, they knew the value of psychological indoctrinations.


2. In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to persuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to.

a. Lenin, and then Stalin, carefully arranged the tours so that these progressives would then go back to their countries and praise Soviet Russia, so that the citizens would demand that Russia be recognized....'worker's paradise' and all.

H.G. Wells met with Stalin in 1934, and wrote “I’ve never met a man more candid, fair and honest!” and “…everyone trusts him!’ And of Lenin, “…frank, refreshing, and an amazing little man!’

George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin, as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors, the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.” He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!

And, of course, John Dewey.
See "Dupes," by Paul Kengor



When he returned from the Soviet Union, Shaw backed up ever lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.119


None of this was taught to you in government schools....was it?

Sorry, but other than the couple dead ones you referenced, what living liberals are lovers of communists?


Any who voted for Obama.

President Obama's a communist?
 
President Obama's a communist?

Most Muslims are...

Again ... please take a moment to run down the specific traits of communism, that you are prepared to demonstrate that the erroneously labeled 'liberals', reject... .

I'd offer a list, but I think it only fair that you present this gulf of distinction, between Progressivism and communism.

You should know that your sudden reticence to sustain your own implication, is a demonstration that your implication is unsustainable.
 
Where did we hide the Kolkhoz, collective farms. For that matter, what happened with all the factories owned by the government and operated by the Poliburo?
 

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