Why is there support for Russia on the far right?

[SweetSue92]

SweetSue92 take a look at this thread, for starters.

Oh yes, the one guy is blatantly anti-Semitic too. I ignore him now for the most part.

 

[SweetSue92]

Add to it the fact that the support for Mara-lard-ass is at an all time high and that he is the same guy who heaps praise on Putin everytime he finds a microphone and someone that will listen to him.
You'd figure that at some point, if the right wing posters here REALLY didn't support Russia's murderous efforts in Ukraine..they would say something about their blob supporting Russia's murderous efforts in Ukraine.

Can the Left do ANYTHING without projection? Anything at all. Anything. At all

 

[Esdraelon]

Bio Lab and Bioweapons Labs are not synonyms.

We have no idea what research was actually being conducted only the protestations of the Russians whom we know are professional liars.

That's correct, but we DO have Nuland's statement of concern that Russia entering those labs could be dangerous. Why? If they are being used for public health functions, what danger is there for Russia to see that?

 

[candycorn]

Can the Left do ANYTHING without projection? Anything at all. Anything. At all

Can you stop following me around like a poodle?

 

[SweetSue92]

Can you stop following me around like a poodle?

You responded to a post I was mentioned in and like a mindless Leftist robot, brought Trump into it with some stupid nickname.

It's inane and boring. Do something new

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Putin's back to the wall

The only thing his back is up against is the border to his own country and his own ego.

He should gain absolutely nothing and we cannot allow him to succeed here or as soon as he can rebuild his force he'll be back for the rest of Ukraine or moving on another country he feels entitled to.

 

[theHawk]

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Why is there support for Russia on the far right?

Those remaining true to the GOP establishment remember Putin as a vicious and sadistic thug working for the Soviet government and realize he hasn't changed.

However, the 74 million+ cultists idolize their leader, trump, and he idolizes Putin (and Kim Jong un). The trump cultists have no choice but to worship Putin as they worship trump.

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Why is there far left support for a dictator like Zelensky? He bombs civilians in Luhansk and Donetsk, he bans all opposition media and political parties. He refuses to allow the people in those regions to practice democracy and separate from Ukraine. He’s sending Ukrainians into a meat grinder.

 

[Winco]

Why is there far left support for a dictator like Zelensky?

WTF you crazy MF'er?

Why do you support putin and trump?

 

[Rogue AI]

Welcome to the 20th century. Russia and China have been arming our enemies to the teeth and supporting them with their own troops since 1947.

Who the hell do you think we were fighting in Korea, Vietnam, and every proxy war since?

China was directly involved in Korea, but that was third world China, different monster than today's China. Russia did arm North Vietnam, we responded by arming Afghans.

The Iraq insurgency and Afghans were armed by Iran and other Middle Eastern countries, with some aid from Russia and China, but not directly to terrorists. Nor did either offer up their high end stuff, like drones and current gen anti-aircraft. At the same time we armed every terrorist in Syria to kill Russians and overthrow Assad. We either directly created ISIS or accidentally armed them. That was all tit for tat.

Now we are not only arming Ukraine, we are actively trying to destroy the Russian economy, that's new. We are escalating this to the brink of nuclear war. We are declaring Russia as war criminals, while completely ignoring our supposed belief in due process. We are calling for regime change, then pretending we aren't. We took this to a different level. We can expect the same in the future. Personally I think that's not a smart path to travel.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No? He has bet everything on retaking Ukraine. He has gone all-in and he has been badly counseled by his generals and defense professionals. We've been hearing for 10 years or so that Russia has reinvested in modernizing her military, including creating a professional troop cadre to enhance their force of conscripts.

NOW the world sees how inept that force is and IF Russians are as paranoid as they are regularly assumed to be, why wouldn't he be willing to risk it all, betting the west has no stomach for retaliating to a Russian nuke strike on the battleground? We have over-expanded the guarantees of NATO by accepting too many eastern European nations that were formerly in his orbit. Ukraine isn't one of those. Thank GOD for that. Imagine he were invading Poland, Czechia, or Lithuania. At THAT point, America has to choose to fight Russia or leave Europe to fend for itself.

Because he's not stupid or suicidal and there are only two things on earth that really matter to him which are enriching himself and establishing his legacy as a Russian Hero for Rebuilding the Russian Empire.

The first use of a nuke ends him, Russia, and all of the rest.

His invasion failed miserably, the whole world sees that and the longer he keeps his troops in the field the more of it will be destroyeed each and every day.

That not only makes Russia's future defense posture seriously compromised it compromises their international arms trade because the world is seeing just how crappy their main weapons are.

What little they spend on defence for the last 20 years has been on developing a few high tech weapons systems they can't even afford to fully field for themselves and are actually then intended primarily for the international market. That's their primary revenue stream for supporting their existing military.

He blew it, he knows it he's just trying to find a way out now that leaves him still alive and in power but that becomes even less likely by the day since his backers are losing billions in accumulated wealth by the day due to the sanctions and market interruptions.

He may be an evil bastard but he's a very rational actor.

 

[theHawk]

WTF you crazy MF'er?

Why do you support putin and trump?

Who said I support Putin?

What is this weird obsession you leftwing maniacs have with Putin? You act as though people must love him or hate him.

I think he was stupid to start this war, he is playing into the hands of the globalist pigs who want WW3. Now a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians are killing each other, and that only benefits the radical left.

 

[Winco]

Who said I support Putin?

What is this weird obsession you leftwing maniacs have with Putin? You act as though people must love him or hate him.

I think he was stupid to start this war, he is playing into the hands of the globalist pigs who want WW3. Now a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians are killing each other, and that only benefits the radical left.

Simply because you and your CULT are constantly telling me that I'm a commie, American Hater, Nazi, Moron, etc.

Just expect it back dude.

You think you are way better than me, but I know nothing about you so the bar you set is unknown.

You are ALL TALK.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Putin isn't going to take us into WWIII over Ukraine, he knows that would cost him everything and would be the end of his nation.

You're right. Putin won't.

Biden is going to take us into WWIII if he doesn't start keeping his trap shut.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Big Bend Texas]

We either directly created ISIS or accidentally armed them.

No we didn't. Isis was created in Iraq when it was decided Albaghdadi was even too violent for AQ's liking.

The Iraq insurgency and Afghans were armed by Iran and other Middle Eastern countries, with some aid from Russia and China, but not directly to terrorists.

Russian arms funneled through the IRGC whom Russia has continued to train and fund now for over 40 years. The same outfit launching intermediate range missiles at US and coalition targets as far as Saudi Arabia using Russian designed and/or built rockets.

China was directly involved in Korea, but that was third world China, different monster than today's China. Russia did arm North Vietnam, we responded by arming Afghans

Russia and China both directly supplied both the Communist Korean Army and the NVA. The Chinese supplied ground troops in Korea as well when the South was in danger of winning. Both China and Russia supplied the planes and pilots as well that our forces were in direct conflict with in both of those actions.

Now we are not only arming Ukraine, we are actively trying to destroy the Russian economy, that's new. We are escalating this to the brink of nuclear war.

There's nothing at all new about the use of economic sanctions and these aren't the most severe ever imposed. Take a look back at what was forced on Germany after WWII.

We've been seizing assets of both individuals and countries in the form of sanctions for decades, that's how we were sitting on a 150bn dollars of Iranian Money for forty years till Obama decided they needed it back.

We're not on the verge of nuclear war, we need to grow up and quit acting like scared little girls. History has proven that when Putin is directly confronted he folds and retreats and when he's not, he mashes hard on the gas to keep going.

We can stop him now in Ukraine without putting a single US solider on the ground or in the skies over Ukraine but that isn't likely to be the case when he comes back to finish off Ukraine or decides to move into another neighboring country.

Putin has never shown to have the stomach nor the army for a real fight with any competent force and he's not going to change now knowing it would be his end and the end of Russia.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Welcome to the 20th century. Russia and China have been arming our enemies to the teeth and supporting them with their own troops since 1947.

Who the hell do you think we were fighting in Korea, Vietnam, and every proxy war since?

What? I thought progressives believed they were neighbors and we were all one big happy global family.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Big Bend Texas]

You are ALL TALK.

My how manly of you.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

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What? I thought progressives believed they were neighbors and we were all one big happy global family.

*****SMILE*****

Only when an evil republican is oppressing brown people.

Orrrrr something like that.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Only when an evil republican is oppressing brown people.

Orrrrr something like that.

Yes those damn Re..... Oh wait! ^^^Those^^^^ are Democrats.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[theHawk]

Simply because you and your CULT are constantly telling me that I'm a commie, American Hater, Nazi, Moron, etc.

Just expect it back dude.

You think you are way better than me, but I know nothing about you so the bar you set is unknown.

You are ALL TALK.

Well when you support nearly every political idea that is destructive to America and our rights, then yes it is easy to label you those things, because they accurately describe you.

You keep making this claim that we are in a “cult”. Cult following who? The GOP? We attack well over half the GOP for the RINOs that they are. President Trump? Why didn’t we all go get vaccinated like he said?

Your accusations don’t add up.

 

[Rogue AI]

No we didn't. Isis was created in Iraq when it was decided Albaghdadi was even too violent for AQ's liking.


Russian arms funneled through the IRGC whom Russia has continued to train and fund now for over 40 years. The same outfit launching intermediate range missiles at US and coalition targets as far as Saudi Arabia using Russian designed and/or built rockets.

Russia and China both directly supplied both the Communist Korean Army and the NVA. The Chinese supplied ground troops in Korea as well when the South was in danger of winning. Both China and Russia supplied the planes and pilots as well that our forces were in direct conflict with in both of those actions.



There's nothing at all new about the use of economic sanctions and these aren't the most severe ever imposed. Take a look back at what was forced on Germany after WWII.

We've been seizing assets of both individuals and countries in the form of sanctions for decades, that's how we were sitting on a 150bn dollars of Iranian Money for forty years till Obama decided they needed it back.

We're not on the verge of nuclear war, we need to grow up and quit acting like scared little girls. History has proven that when Putin is directly confronted he folds and retreats and when he's not, he mashes hard on the gas to keep going.

We can stop him now in Ukraine without putting a single US solider on the ground or in the skies over Ukraine but that isn't likely to be the case when he comes back to finish off Ukraine or decides to move into another neighboring country.

Putin has never shown to have the stomach nor the army for a real fight with any competent force and he's not going to change now knowing it would be his end and the end of Russia.

ISIS started in Syria, their founders started in Iraq. Totally different things.

Russia was acting by proxy in Iran, as we have all over the world. Iran has their own weapons development and production. Much of it was aided by Russia and China.

After WWII Germany was hit with reparations, not sanctions. Different things. Most recognized sanctions began in the UN, in which case China and Russia agreed or abstained. US sanctions or NATO sanctions have been against weak countries with no ability to counter them.

There isn't a leader in the West that can get Putin to fold right now. Putin knows the West is weak, he'd use nukes, because Europe and Biden would fold.

If NATO cared about Ukraine they would have put boots on the ground in early February. They didn't. Instead they tried sanctions and failed.