Why Shouldn't Police Be Allowed To Kill Suspects Who Don't Comply?


"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
 
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
Why shouldnt politcal elites of the Demoncrap party be fired for lying all the time? Police just follow what the leaders do, is this the way of Joe Biden's America?

I have long argued to stop voting for politicians that lie to us. What would cause you to ask me this question in reply to what I said? I'll also note you did not answer the question.
As i said previously, if the Mayors, Governors and CongressCritters all lie, why should the police be honest? How else do police who wanted to help people, end up being so corrupted? Must do what the political leaders tell them to...

You are arguing we have an unjust system. I've long argued that. Address it or people will burn it down.
When i was living in Virginia, Eric Cantor, establishment Republican 2nd to John Boner(Boehner) establishment Republican, that he could do what ever he wanted to , because he thought his district wasnt watching him. Then this happened.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses re-election bid
Brat defeated Cantor in the 7th congressional district, 56-44 percent, shocking the political establishment. While many felt Cantor would be pushed by Brat, few predicted Cantor would ultimately be toppled.
"Yikes. I didn't see that coming," one top Republican told CBS News Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes.
Yet dumbasses like you keep voting in your stupid progressive elites like Nancy Pelosi , Chuck Schumer and the likes. I cant stop stupid people like you from being stupid.
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
it all depends on how you dont,,

youre trying to play word games when its far more complicated than that,,

what do you mean by restricted area?? a military compound or just a dog park that restricts people without dogs??
 
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
Why shouldnt politcal elites of the Demoncrap party be fired for lying all the time? Police just follow what the leaders do, is this the way of Joe Biden's America?

I have long argued to stop voting for politicians that lie to us. What would cause you to ask me this question in reply to what I said? I'll also note you did not answer the question.
As i said previously, if the Mayors, Governors and CongressCritters all lie, why should the police be honest? How else do police who wanted to help people, end up being so corrupted? Must do what the political leaders tell them to...

You are arguing we have an unjust system. I've long argued that. Address it or people will burn it down.
When i was living in Virginia, Eric Cantor, establishment Republican 2nd to John Boner(Boehner) establishment Republican, that he could do what ever he wanted to , because he thought his district wasnt watching him. Then this happened.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses re-election bid
Brat defeated Cantor in the 7th congressional district, 56-44 percent, shocking the political establishment. While many felt Cantor would be pushed by Brat, few predicted Cantor would ultimately be toppled.
"Yikes. I didn't see that coming," one top Republican told CBS News Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes.
Yet dumbasses like you keep voting in your stupid progressive elites like Nancy Pelosi , Chuck Schumer and the likes. I cant stop stupid people like you from being stupid.
Who has that seat now?
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
it all depends on how you dont,,

youre trying to play word games when its far more complicated than that,,

what do you mean by restricted area?? a military compound or just a dog park that restricts people without dogs??
Ask her
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"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
it all depends on how you dont,,

youre trying to play word games when its far more complicated than that,,

what do you mean by restricted area?? a military compound or just a dog park that restricts people without dogs??
Ask her
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as always leftist use the most extreme examples to make a point,,
 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.
 
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?
Because they’re suspects – innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

That to conservatives this is a ‘question’ at all is repugnant.
Funny, what you just said , only applies to Democrats, because Andrew Cujo of New State has 10s of thousands of murdered elderly on his hands, and he still hasnt been in court yet, while Rudy got taken in because the crooked FBI thought they had shit on him....
That the authoritarian right advocates for the killing of innocent detainees by police comes as no surprise.
Innocent detainees? Bwaaahhaaaaa.....Talk about an oxymoronic statement....

Would someone who murdered your family be considered an innocent detainee?
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
it all depends on how you dont,,

youre trying to play word games when its far more complicated than that,,

what do you mean by restricted area?? a military compound or just a dog park that restricts people without dogs??
Ask her
View attachment 491547
as always leftist use the most extreme examples to make a point,,
^ Self projection ^
 
What had he done ?
He was being stopped for a traffic violation and he didn't stop......he took them on a short high-speed chase...

Everyone knows once you run from the cops and get caught, you get whatever is coming to you....including death
The police are the same over here in terms of chases. There is a tragedy every year where they are chasing someone and knock over a 4 year old. However, they tend not to kill the guy when they have caught him.

Killing someone for taking a wrong turn seems a bit excessive. If they had his car details they knew where he lived. Could they not pick him up at a later point ?
 
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
Why shouldnt politcal elites of the Demoncrap party be fired for lying all the time? Police just follow what the leaders do, is this the way of Joe Biden's America?

I have long argued to stop voting for politicians that lie to us. What would cause you to ask me this question in reply to what I said? I'll also note you did not answer the question.
As i said previously, if the Mayors, Governors and CongressCritters all lie, why should the police be honest? How else do police who wanted to help people, end up being so corrupted? Must do what the political leaders tell them to...

You are arguing we have an unjust system. I've long argued that. Address it or people will burn it down.
When i was living in Virginia, Eric Cantor, establishment Republican 2nd to John Boner(Boehner) establishment Republican, that he could do what ever he wanted to , because he thought his district wasnt watching him. Then this happened.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses re-election bid
Brat defeated Cantor in the 7th congressional district, 56-44 percent, shocking the political establishment. While many felt Cantor would be pushed by Brat, few predicted Cantor would ultimately be toppled.
"Yikes. I didn't see that coming," one top Republican told CBS News Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes.
Yet dumbasses like you keep voting in your stupid progressive elites like Nancy Pelosi , Chuck Schumer and the likes. I cant stop stupid people like you from being stupid.

It's a disease with you. In all my time here the only (D) I have voted for is Sanders and he isn't really even a (D).

I didn't vote for Biden. But rant away.
 
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase.

Why shouldn't police officers who lie be fired?

Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
Why shouldnt politcal elites of the Demoncrap party be fired for lying all the time? Police just follow what the leaders do, is this the way of Joe Biden's America?

I have long argued to stop voting for politicians that lie to us. What would cause you to ask me this question in reply to what I said? I'll also note you did not answer the question.
As i said previously, if the Mayors, Governors and CongressCritters all lie, why should the police be honest? How else do police who wanted to help people, end up being so corrupted? Must do what the political leaders tell them to...

You are arguing we have an unjust system. I've long argued that. Address it or people will burn it down.
When i was living in Virginia, Eric Cantor, establishment Republican 2nd to John Boner(Boehner) establishment Republican, that he could do what ever he wanted to , because he thought his district wasnt watching him. Then this happened.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses re-election bid
Brat defeated Cantor in the 7th congressional district, 56-44 percent, shocking the political establishment. While many felt Cantor would be pushed by Brat, few predicted Cantor would ultimately be toppled.
"Yikes. I didn't see that coming," one top Republican told CBS News Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes.
Yet dumbasses like you keep voting in your stupid progressive elites like Nancy Pelosi , Chuck Schumer and the likes. I cant stop stupid people like you from being stupid.
Who has that seat now?
I have no idea, because i left lunatic Virginia when they 1st put in a man with tits who though he was a woman as a representative...

 
Now the answer to your question is because we do not hire the police to be judge, jury and executioners.
.

You are absolutely correct about that ...

But ... To Protect and Serve, up to the inclusion of the use of deadly force, is very much in their job description.
Your job to decide the details surrounding that, stops at the point you cast a vote for the person whose job it is to make that decision.

Unless of course you are the Mayor, Police Chief or Sheriff ... :thup:

.

The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
A wonderful idea!
 

"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.

Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified —
“awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."

Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?

The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
thats a loaded question,,

theres a difference between not complying and putting others in danger,,
Not really......

When you are a suspect and you are not complying -- you are putting others in danger in many ways....especially if you are in a high speed chase
thats more than not complying,, that is putting others in danger,,
Not complying is not complying period...

Example....you enter an area that is restricted and police tell you not to enter....and you still insist, you are asking to be shot.....

Your entry into a restricted area poses a danger to others
it all depends on how you dont,,

youre trying to play word games when its far more complicated than that,,

what do you mean by restricted area?? a military compound or just a dog park that restricts people without dogs??
Ask her
View attachment 491547
as always leftist use the most extreme examples to make a point,,
^ Self projection ^
I didnt take anything to any extreme,,,

in fact I did the opposite,,
 
The decision is being made. Police officers are being charged for going too far.
.

Great ... It doesn't concern me if you are okay with police officers that act outside of the law being punished.
I was simply clarifying the details you chose to leave out.

.
 
What had he done ?
He was being stopped for a traffic violation and he didn't stop......he took them on a short high-speed chase...

Everyone knows once you run from the cops and get caught, you get whatever is coming to you....including death
The police are the same over here in terms of chases. There is a tragedy every year where they are chasing someone and knock over a 4 year old. However, they tend not to kill the guy when they have caught him.

Killing someone for taking a wrong turn seems a bit excessive. If they had his car details they knew where he lived. Could they not pick him up at a later point ?
Bottom line is....the guy shouldn't have run.....

Should he had been beat and tased to the point he died??
That really depends on if you can successfully dehumanize the guy enough to justify all of it....
 
Killing someone for taking a wrong turn seems a bit excessive. If they had his car details they knew where he lived. Could they not pick him up at a later point ?
.

Could he not pull the fuck over and hand the Police Officer his driver's license?
That seems to be the better, or at least more reasonable option, than a chase endangering the safety of others.

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