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Because we're trying to mold society with government.
Whites molded society with government since July 4th, 1776.
OK
I agree that the issue of slavery and 'apartheid' after certainly has extended into our lifetimes, including right now. I thought Missourian's post was spot on, in describing the problem, anyway. It is pretty rare for people to enter these threads with any understanding of why things are as they are.You've lost me.Wrote this a couple years ago...didn't get much traction...
The past is prologue.
It's a classic "sins of the father" scenario.
Slavery to Jim Crow to Separate but Equal...segregation thwarted assimilation, and now instead of regional American cultures that blend together at the edges, African-Americans have...thru segregationist policies...developed their own distinct culture with sharp and distinct boundaries within the older regional culture.
And it is literally the inequities of our father upon black slaves and later free black men (and women) that are being visited upon us...the generations that followed.
How can we unring that bell? Appalachia has maintained it's own distinct culture since the dawn of the nation, despite the more "sophisticated" [] Northeast's attempts to quash it. As has Massachusetts and NYC and Virginia and the South and the Ozarks etc. Once a culture is established, it's self perpetuating.
So the real question is...here we are, now what?
I Apologize for Slavery of Blacks
Slavery was not the only sin or was the only issue. Apologizing doesn't do it when you owe 10 trillion dollars in lost earnings and make excuses a to why you won't pay.
There is a simple reality to the years of overt oppression of blacks in this country hat most do not understand. That is the economic reality of working with no pay from 1618 until 1863 by law, then the reduced income or lack of income caused by he national policy of Apartheid from the end if slavery until 1965 and that's a minimum. Experts have said bacs lost between 6.4-10 trillion dollars of earnings during slavery alone. This is what I am referring to OldLady. The post by Missourian is so inaccurate that it's a waste of time to read. Blacks have not developed any separate and distinct culture any more than any other ethnic group has in this country.
Certain whites want to us slavery to make excuses of what they aren't responsible for. But the issue is more than slavery and who somebody did not own. The issue extends into our lifetimes including right now.
I don't agree with you on much, Dale, but you are right that if we all stopped fighting each other and united to fight the abuses and stupidity of government, it would be awesome. (And NO, I don't mean fighting with our AR's, if that's what you're thinking)Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
Barrypuppet was a deep state marxist. Are you claiming that the Barrypuppet should have been given the "sympathy" vote due to the tint of his skin? Explain that to me........you believe that "guilt" should have played a part in the election of the Barrypuppet that was a deep state operative?
Another dumb one. What does guilt have to do with this? There is no deep state but you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
No "deep state"? No "shadow government"? No C.O.G program? HOLY SHIT! Stop posting because you are simply exposing your ignorance.
Ignorance is the belief in a deep state.
I know more than you because I have made it my mission to find out how things really work and the puppet masters that pull the strings. I have connected at least 90 percent of the dots and the picture is crystal clear to me. The only card that you have to play is that of "the victim".... and your failures in life is due to the actions of those that are in the same predicament as you are. You are standing neck deep in shit and blame those that are only waist deep in shit as to why you can't get "ahead"...shouldn't the fact that we are ALL standing in a shit of debt be what unites us all? I am on the side of all humanity......but you seem to be all about you. You will get no sympathy from me because you are selfish...you care only about yourself and not others.
Because we're trying to mold society with government.
Whites molded society with government since July 4th, 1776.
OK
So what do YOU call making one group slaves by law and murdering the natives to get their land by law and making it so whites could only be citizens by law? That's not molding society with government?.
It takes time, that's all.All social engineering projects indulge the same conceit - the false belief that we can change other people's minds (for the better) with force, with law.
It takes time, that's all.All social engineering projects indulge the same conceit - the false belief that we can change other people's minds (for the better) with force, with law.
It takes time, that's all.All social engineering projects indulge the same conceit - the false belief that we can change other people's minds (for the better) with force, with law.
It takes time to mitigate the damage done by trying to force the issue. Longer than it would otherwise. People don't adopt change in response to force. They play along, and resentment builds. And we get Trump.
..''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairnow--your post is worthless crap--many whites voted the Obama--The current occupant of the WH is clearly a barrier to progress.
The previous denizen of the White House did more to damage race relations in this country than 100 President Trumps.
We haven't lived in such a racial charged environment since the late '60s.
Spoken like a true dumb white who apparently never had to face the continuing white racism in the 70's, 80's and 90's so just because whites were mad that a black man was president the racial atmosphere was charged because the only thin
g that counts to them is how they feel but no one else.
Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
All social engineering projects indulge the same conceit - the false belief that we can change other people's minds (for the better) with force, with law.
White males have no reason the resent anything IMO.
You republicans need to start thinking. You believe in some unreasonable and unfair selfish crap that only benefits whites and whites are not the only citizens of this country.
It takes time, that's all.All social engineering projects indulge the same conceit - the false belief that we can change other people's minds (for the better) with force, with law.
..''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairnow--your post is worthless crap--many whites voted the Obama--The current occupant of the WH is clearly a barrier to progress.
The previous denizen of the White House did more to damage race relations in this country than 100 President Trumps.
We haven't lived in such a racial charged environment since the late '60s.
Spoken like a true dumb white who apparently never had to face the continuing white racism in the 70's, 80's and 90's so just because whites were mad that a black man was president the racial atmosphere was charged because the only thin
g that counts to them is how they feel but no one else.
Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
..o yes,, I know--because 100% of whites did not vote for Obama, white people are racists
you are the racist.....blacks are the racists ....Blacks voted for the color of the skin and not the man---opposite of what MLK preached .........''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairnow--your post is worthless crap--many whites voted the Obama--The previous denizen of the White House did more to damage race relations in this country than 100 President Trumps.
We haven't lived in such a racial charged environment since the late '60s.
Spoken like a true dumb white who apparently never had to face the continuing white racism in the 70's, 80's and 90's so just because whites were mad that a black man was president the racial atmosphere was charged because the only thin
g that counts to them is how they feel but no one else.
Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
..o yes,, I know--because 100% of whites did not vote for Obama, white people are racists
He got 43 and 39 percent. That's not close to half. Look fuckhead, in this forum we read volumes if racism by those like you. I've been in many other forums and have seen the same. Social media like facebook/twitter is full of white racism. I don't know who the fuck you think you are talking to, but we see that white racism is plentiful, especially among republicans. 90 percent of blacks voted for Al Gore too dumb ass. Besides we've Voted for white presidents hen other blacks were running for the office. You really are a STUPID m-f.
White males have no reason the resent anything IMO.
I agree. But it's just an opinion. Clearly, some of them see it differently.
You republicans need to start thinking. You believe in some unreasonable and unfair selfish crap that only benefits whites and whites are not the only citizens of this country.
I'm not a republican. And I don't believe that.
You asked why we aren't making more progress on racism. I gave you an answer. Feel free to ignore it.
White males have no reason the resent anything IMO.
I agree. But it's just an opinion. Clearly, some of them see it differently.
You republicans need to start thinking. You believe in some unreasonable and unfair selfish crap that only benefits whites and whites are not the only citizens of this country.
I'm not a republican. And I don't believe that.
You asked why we aren't making more progress on racism. I gave you an answer. Feel free to ignore it.
And that's the problem. You don't want to believe that but that's what's happening. I didn't ask why for anything, I stated that we need to become better informed.
you are the racist.....blacks are the racists ....Blacks voted for the color of the skin and not the man---opposite of what MLK preached .........''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairnow--your post is worthless crap--many whites voted the Obama--Spoken like a true dumb white who apparently never had to face the continuing white racism in the 70's, 80's and 90's so just because whites were mad that a black man was president the racial atmosphere was charged because the only thin
g that counts to them is how they feel but no one else.
Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
..o yes,, I know--because 100% of whites did not vote for Obama, white people are racists
He got 43 and 39 percent. That's not close to half. Look fuckhead, in this forum we read volumes if racism by those like you. I've been in many other forums and have seen the same. Social media like facebook/twitter is full of white racism. I don't know who the fuck you think you are talking to, but we see that white racism is plentiful, especially among republicans. 90 percent of blacks voted for Al Gore too dumb ass. Besides we've Voted for white presidents hen other blacks were running for the office. You really are a STUPID m-f.
...the whites voted from their heart and not the color of the skin
blacks are racists--not whites
better than being a racist, like you.......you are the racist.....blacks are the racists ....Blacks voted for the color of the skin and not the man---opposite of what MLK preached .........''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairnow--your post is worthless crap--many whites voted the Obama--
Less than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
..o yes,, I know--because 100% of whites did not vote for Obama, white people are racists
He got 43 and 39 percent. That's not close to half. Look fuckhead, in this forum we read volumes if racism by those like you. I've been in many other forums and have seen the same. Social media like facebook/twitter is full of white racism. I don't know who the fuck you think you are talking to, but we see that white racism is plentiful, especially among republicans. 90 percent of blacks voted for Al Gore too dumb ass. Besides we've Voted for white presidents hen other blacks were running for the office. You really are a STUPID m-f.
...the whites voted from their heart and not the color of the skin
blacks are racists--not whites
Yeah I know. That's why we didn't vote Jesse Jackson into office. Or Shirley Chisolm. Or Arthur Fletcher. Or Alan Keyes, Or Herman Cain. Or Carol Mosely Braun. Or Al Sharpton. Or Ben Carson.
You really are a STUPID m-f.
White males have no reason the resent anything IMO.
I agree. But it's just an opinion. Clearly, some of them see it differently.
You republicans need to start thinking. You believe in some unreasonable and unfair selfish crap that only benefits whites and whites are not the only citizens of this country.
I'm not a republican. And I don't believe that.
You asked why we aren't making more progress on racism. I gave you an answer. Feel free to ignore it.
And that's the problem. You don't want to believe that but that's what's happening. I didn't ask why for anything, I stated that we need to become better informed.
I stand corrected. You weren't asking, or looking, for discussion. Just telling everyone how it is!
Well, I think you're full of shit.
better than being a racist, like you.......you are the racist.....blacks are the racists ....Blacks voted for the color of the skin and not the man---opposite of what MLK preached .........''many'' 45% out of 100% is very close to half...that is a lot for a POTUS election--..especially when you see 90% of blacks voted for Obama--now that is racism/hatred right there...this shows the blacks are racists and whites are fairLess than 50 percent of all whites voted for Obama both times. But you are dumb so we can't expect any better.
..o yes,, I know--because 100% of whites did not vote for Obama, white people are racists
He got 43 and 39 percent. That's not close to half. Look fuckhead, in this forum we read volumes if racism by those like you. I've been in many other forums and have seen the same. Social media like facebook/twitter is full of white racism. I don't know who the fuck you think you are talking to, but we see that white racism is plentiful, especially among republicans. 90 percent of blacks voted for Al Gore too dumb ass. Besides we've Voted for white presidents hen other blacks were running for the office. You really are a STUPID m-f.
...the whites voted from their heart and not the color of the skin
blacks are racists--not whites
Yeah I know. That's why we didn't vote Jesse Jackson into office. Or Shirley Chisolm. Or Arthur Fletcher. Or Alan Keyes, Or Herman Cain. Or Carol Mosely Braun. Or Al Sharpton. Or Ben Carson.
You really are a STUPID m-f.
