Will Obamas wiretapping of Trumps home bring down the democrat party?

[owebo]

Where's the proof of any REAL wiretapping? It's fun to watch the RWrs so gullible again and again and again and again......

Wait for it, wait for it


The president has the authority to declassify material

The FISA request has been declassified


DJT will soon release it to the Congress and to us the members of the tweeter community.


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The free fall of Obama will destroy what's left of the democrat party....

This is fucking awesome!!!!!!

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Contumacious, post: 16727280

The Huffington Post relied on a statement issued by NBC's Bradd Jaffy..

New York Times is on it.

((WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.))

Comey Asks Justice Dept. to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim

This is explosive in that Comey is calling Trump a liar. It's been a few hours and no one at the FBI has pushed back on the NYTimes report.

Do you really believe Comey would allow the NYTimes to reference Comey calling a US President a liar if Comey didn't say it?

You are naive if you do.

 

[Faun]

Doc1, post: 16726847

The FISA court rules were relaxed by BushCo. All that is normally need is the Written request of the Prez.

Source?

I'll let you do your own research kid. We both know I know what I'm talking about. I will help a bit though.....The Patriot Act.

Court orders are still required. Even the most lax laws which permit a wiretap without a court order reeuire one within 72 hours.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The fools from the alt right just got stomped on by Comey.

 

[Contumacious]

The fools from the alt right just got stomped on by Comey.

OBAMA vs SHARYL ATTKISSON

Obama the son of a bitch is very capable of tapping telephones and/or hacking computers of his enemies


The highly sophisticated hacking of Sharyl Attkisson's computers

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[JakeStarkey]

^^^

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Contumacious, post: 16727397

The president has the authority to declassify material

You are in over your head. Trump could have declassified it and got the prosecution ball rolling against Obama through proper channels.

But Trump is a tweet happy clown who has turned his FBI Director against him while hitting golf balls at Maralago while dining and wining with his recused Attorney General.

And Republicans in Congress have no idea what the hell Trump was tweeting about yesterday.

Obama did nothing and Trump is an idiot.

 

[12icer]

No the Trump administration Is just going through all of the crimes the oshitass administration committed before calling for their arrest and execution for treason, espionage and violations of the Constitution. You are just pumping shit as usual. BTW the signo you have is the funniest thing I have ever read from a group of powerless LOOOSSSEEERRRSS that are just vomiting up the shit they drink from their idols asses.

 

[Contumacious]

Contumacious, post: 16727397

The president has the authority to declassify material

You are in over your head. Trump could have declassified it and got the prosecution ball rolling against Obama through proper channels.

But Trump is a tweet happy clown who has turned his FBI Director against him while hitting golf balls at Maralago while dining and wining with his recused Attorney General.

And Republicans in Congress have no idea what the hell Trump was tweeting about yesterday.

Obama did nothing and Trump is an idiot.

Your boy either lied to FISA or misrepresented the facts as to who the real target was.

Your boy is going down like a lead balloon.


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[oreo]

Shepard Smith is about as far left as you can get.

And phone calls going back and forth? Show me your evidence. Lol

Outfoxed? We shall see.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave
When first we practise to deceive!"
Might want to look up that tale...

We know that they were wire tapping Russian phone lines, and when the Trump campaign called in to talk they're obviously being wiretapped. Whether intelligence agencies thought it was important to tap the TRUMP TOWER where the phones calls to the Russians were going back & forth, then they have every right to do that, and without warrants because this is ESPIONAGE aka spying on a foreign adversary which is perfectly legal to do.

BUT YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT:

We know it's been one lie after another coming out of the Trump circle. 5 times the inner circle has denied any contact with Russians during the campaign season. THAT WAS A LIE.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

And it's been one lie after another ever since. Flynn first.
Flynn reportedly lied to FBI about sanctions talk with Russian envoy

Sessions second: Sessions actually filled out a form before the confirmation meeting and checked a box that stated he had no contact with any Russians, which is why he is refusing to go back and testify under oath.

We know that not only did they have meetings with the Russian ambassador, but they were also on the phone with Russian intelligence officials and those phone calls were numerous, (especially via Trumps son-in-law) during the same time that the Russians were hacking into DNC databases.


More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

We know that Trump continually denied the Russian hacking, including the intelligence of the CIA, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, 13 other intelligence agencies including the entire Republican held Senate. Even at one point stating: I know people who know more than they do, and I'll get back to you next week. He didn't.

When people are continually LYING it's usually because they're trying to hide something.

And I'll leave you to ponder two quotes:

Trump: "Russia if that's you, if you could find Hillary Clinton's 30K emails, you would be greatly rewarded by the media.

OBAMA: I want this Russian Investigation done BEFORE I leave office--LOL. Clearly he did not turn this over to FBI director James Comey, because he is also under investigation for his interference into this election. And he certainly would not have turned it over to Republicans who would have squashed it.
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI

Trump and company have been wholly OUTFOXED by Barack Obama, and I imagine he will release the Kracken in 2018 when Democrats take over, if not sooner.

Again Obama ordered this Russian investigation to be done BEFORE he left office. This 2nd ongoing investigation is just for the show. Obama would not have turned this over to FBI director, James Comey who is also under investigation for his interference into this election, and he certainly would not have turned it over to Republicans so they could squash it.
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI

Every time one of them is lying about anything regarding Russia, another leak comes out to prove they're lying. Very methodical, planned, timed leaks.

All the while Trump is running around checking White House staff's phone numbers and demanding to find out who is doing all the leaking, banning White House media outlets from attending daily briefings, etc. etc. etc. It's hysterical.

It's Obama who has wholly outfoxed Trump and company--and is just sitting back waiting patiently, with his poker face, and then boom it's going to happen.

This is why I have stated repeatedly that Republicans need to get off of their thumbs. The Ways & Means committee needs to obtain Trump's income tax returns, which they refused to do last week. And if Trump needs to be impeached it's much better if Republicans do it, versus burning down the entire party with this when Democrats take over in 2018. But I doubt they're smart enough to figure than one out.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/...nvestigate-mr-trumps-ties-to-russia.html?_r=1

Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

The evidence is coming that's the point. And Shepard Smith is not as liberal as you can get. Unlike you he puts country first over partisan politics.

So get your crayons and coloring books out, turn on the Trump media network aka Sean Hannity and enjoy your ride.



And this is what Lindsey Graham had to say about this wire taping.

"The other side of the story ... If the former President of the United States was able to obtain a warrant lawfully to monitor Trump's campaign for violating the law, that would be the biggest scandal since Watergate."
Graham: 'I'm very worried' about Trump's wiretapping accusation

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Obama the son of a bitch is very capable of tapping telephones and/or hacking computers of his enemies

So quickly it's not a FISA Court scandal.

 

[Faun]

Contumacious, post: 16727397

The president has the authority to declassify material

You are in over your head. Trump could have declassified it and got the prosecution ball rolling against Obama through proper channels.

But Trump is a tweet happy clown who has turned his FBI Director against him while hitting golf balls at Maralago while dining and wining with his recused Attorney General.

And Republicans in Congress have no idea what the hell Trump was tweeting about yesterday.

Obama did nothing and Trump is an idiot.

Your boy either lied to FISA or misrepresented the facts as to who the real target was.

Your boy is going down like a lead balloon.


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So let's see your proof....

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Contumacious, post: 16727621

Your boy either lied to FISA or misrepresented the facts as to who the real target was.

Trump is in deep shit right now.

. “It would be more helpful if he turned over to the intelligence committee any evidence that he has,” said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, on CBS' "Face the Nation."

The one who knows the most about FISA requests and activities is Comey. Trump has basically chosen Mark Levin over his FBI Director and put the entire display of his ignorance on Twitter.

 

[bripat9643]

No.

So, you approve of Obamas Putin like actions against political rivals.....what else do you approve of Putins?

YOU approved of the Russian hacking.

btw, why did you start a duplicate thread on this topic while at the same time you're posting in the original thread?

What hacking

Trump has a Russian collusion problem. He must deliver for Putin or be exposed for treason!!!

Where's the evidence, douche bag?

 

[bripat9643]

Contumacious, post: 16727621

Your boy either lied to FISA or misrepresented the facts as to who the real target was.

Trump is in deep shit right now.

. “It would be more helpful if he turned over to the intelligence committee any evidence that he has,” said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, on CBS' "Face the Nation."

The one who knows the most about FISA requests and activities is Comey. Trump has basically chosen Mark Levin over his FBI Director and put the entire display of his ignorance on Twitter.

It's fun watching leftwingers delude themselves

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, the opposition easily survives, while Trump dives.

He is in trouble . . . bigly.

The final straw will be when the blue collar aren't doing better in 8 years. Unfortunately I think trumps going to ask blue collar for 4 more years after doing nothing for them. He will say he enherited a mess and he needs 4 more years and blame the liberals or media.

The blue collar white racist trump supporters will buy into it like they did trump university

 

[bripat9643]

America has never seen this level of democrat fascism.....Trump now knows all, and will attack democrats with the truth.....can they survive?

Let's start off with a premise: For the sake of argument, let's just say that there are a myriad of forces (like the Democrats, the media, and Republicans who are not sold on Trump) that are trying, both overtly and covertly, to bring down the Trump presidency. Okay so far?

All of those forces, all working together in concert, couldn't do as much damage to Trump's presidency as Trump does all by himself week after week.

Wrong, hosebag. Blaming Trump for all these attacks on him is pure demagoguery. Only a snake could slither under that bar.

 

[depotoo]

I imagine, not even the left is fooled.

We expect unsupported accusations on the campaign trail but not from the president. Doesn't Trump understand he's president and both friend an foe expect true from him, not wild tales, exaggerations, and out right lies. What he is doing is creating an atmosphere of confusion and mistrust. His staff seems to spend an inordinate amount of their time trying to justify, deflect, or explains his comments.

So, you're saying the POTUS doesn't have access to this type of information...do tell....

Assuming the president is not bat shit crazy, in making a serious criminal accusations against the previous president, he should have sufficient evidence to request an FBI investigation. However, Trump is expecting congress to investigate? Trump is just trying to draw attention away from the congressional investigation of Russian meddling in the election. Unless he releases something to confirm his statement, it will be seen as just another deflection by the Deflector in Chief.

I suspect, the right wing media will build scenarios for Obama wiretapping Trump and Trump will use the bully pulpit to fan the flames.

The "Russian meddling" thing is a con and a faux scandal. They idea that Trump had anything to do with it is preposterous. There is zero evidence that he did. All this is doing is preventing Trump from advancing his agenda. No one is fooled.

 

[bripat9643]

boedicca, post: 16727019

Let's see if the 2nd FISA request actually specified Trump as an individual

Comey just called Trump a liar.

We can be certain that there were no FISA requests coming from the White House.

Will Trump fire Comey now?

Yes, There Could Be Serious Legal Problems if Obama Admin Involved in Illegal Surveillance

If the stories are correct, Obama or his officials might even face prosecution.

The stories currently are three-fold:

first, that Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent;


second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so,


third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Are these allegations true? We don’t know yet, but if any part of them are than Obama and/or his officials could face serious trouble.


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Comey calling the Trump a liar puts and end to it.

What can Trump and Sessions say after this.

(FBI Director James Comey asked the Department of Justice to “publicly reject” President Donald Trump’s explosive allegation over the weekend that then-President Barack Obama had ordered a wiretap of Trump’s communications during the presidential campaign, The New York Times reported on Sunday.

Comey said that Trump’s claim, which he tweeted early on Saturday without offering any evidence, “is false and must be corrected,” according to unnamed U.S. officials who spoke with the Times. The Justice Department, led by Trump-nominated Attorney General Jeff Sessions, has not done so yet.)

FBI Director James Comey Asked DOJ To Refute Trump's Wiretapping Claim | The Huffington Post

Wrong again, douche bag. Isn't Comey the guy you all accused of falsely persecuting Hillary? If you didn't trust him then, why would you believe him now?

 

[bripat9643]

End game, Trumpers.

Your senility is in the terminal phase, Fakey.