We don't know WHEN the spying started. We do know when some of the FISA spying started and that the Obama/Biden Administration lied to the FISA Court in order to trick them into authorizing spying on the American People.Cater Page already lost that suit. And refiled that same suit he already lost.In our system EVERY warrant requires the entity requesting the warrant to swear an oath the information provided is accurate, trustworthy and complete. When you LIE to the Court, the spying that results is illegal. Lies are not suddenly laundered into truth because you tricked a Judge by lying to them and withholding information.... the warrants were signed by fucking judges...Impeachment is a CONGRESSIONAL POWER. The illegal spying by te Biden/Obama Administration had nothing to do with "impeachment", Trump wasn't even an office holder....Impeachment is just an investigation and trial...
To get a FISA warrant on a US citizen the corrupt Biden/Obama Administration would have to swear to the Court that they had verified evidence that showed that they were knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of a foreign government....papadopolus bragging to an australian diplomat about russia ties
What predicated Biden/Obama spying on the Trump Campaign is what Barr has pledged to get to the bottom of.
The Party affiliation of the Biden/Obama Administration members that illegally spied on Trump is beside the point. You think a lie is suddenly "truth" if a Republican utters it? How Silly!... Republican employees decided they saw probable cause to investigate...
Who cares who appointed them? You can no more lie to a Judge selected by Roberts than you can a Judge selected by anyone else.... secured warrants from Republican-appointed judges...
Lying to the Court doesn't preserve a Free and Just Democracy. They lied because if they had told the truth, they wouldn't have gotten the warrants they wanted to exploit the vast spying capabilities we entrust to our Intelligence Community.... Orwellian reframing of legal due process in an attempt to undermine the role of the judicial system in providing the critical oversight necessary to maintaining a free and just democracy....Carter Page worked WITH the FBI in 2013. He was never convicted of any crimes, hell, he's never even been indicted, still hasn't! Next to Trump he's probably the cleanest guy in DC. A FISA warrant is renewed every 90 days. His 2013 assistance to the FBI had no bearing on his fitness to work in the Trump Campaign....Carter Page was under investigation since 2013. Why did Trump get involved with him.
The Biden/Obama Administration wanted to spy on Trump, they knew Page and used him as pretext to throw a surveillance blanket over the campaign at a time when they believed Hillary would be elected and that no one would even find out the warrant had even been issued.
And also Zorro, is it not TRUE that---------------->the 1st FISA warrant they tried to obtain was denied! So in actuality, they were attempting to SPY on the Trump campaign earlier.
As far as UNLUCKYDUCKS assertions, 1/2 of them have been proven false! One of the most obvious is his linkage to the discussion had with Alexander Downer, where they BOTH have said that----------->what was claimed to be discussed, NEVER HAPPENED!
Maybe Quack-Quack should also address all of the unmaskings from the protected data-base, and the fact that 3 HIRED CONTRACTORS had access to that data base under the Obama Administration. Was one of the Fusion GPS? We will soon know, and that would explain a whole-helluva-lot! A large amount of the unmaskings were supposedly authorized by the UN Ambassador. She insists it wasn't her, and somebody must have used her name to authorize it!
So what is the point you say?
ANSWER------------->While I can NOT confirm it...……..YET...……...it seems that 95% of these unmaskings, along with the inquiry that followed into these people, WERE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CANDIDATES CAMPAIGNS, not just Trumps-) Oh, my! Seems whomever was in control of this, had a plan for whomever won the nomination on the Republican side, now doesn't it! And it probably would have worked, if Admiral Rogers hadn't blown the whistle to the FISA court, which FORCED the cabal to LEGALLY get a FISA warrant, which it could NOT the 1st time around! And so, enter the dossier, and walla, they can now legally spy, even IF the evidence they used, was false!
Problem for them is----------->they had to SWEAR to the court that the evidence was vetted, and found to be true. They LIED!
And how do we know this?
Because Carter Paige is not only walking around, he has a MASSIVE suit against the Feds, which legal experts from both sides of the aisle claim he will WIN, so they will no doubt settle out of court with a gag order to be included.
Anyway, the point is--------------->it was NOT just Trump, it was all/most of the Republican candidates people being unmasked. Trump was just the winner, so it is focused on what happened to him. The Left says worse than Watergate!
Yes it was, and you will soon find out!
Chris Wallace sets record straight on Russia probe:
The Trump investigation did not start with the FISA warrant and Carter Page and even the dossier. It started in June and July of 2016 when George Papadopoulos had spoken to a Russian agent and spoke to an Australian diplomat and said he had heard they had information on –– dirt on Hillary Clinton. That’s when the investigation started.
Barr will get to bottom of all that. He will tell us when this spying started, I understand that you claim they used this dog and pony show with Papa D to kick it off, maybe, we'll see. Thanks to the fact that Trump unexpectedly won the election, we know that they got four FISA warrants on Page, it will be interesting to see if they obtained any others, and frankly if they spied on any other candidates.
For example, as badly as the Democrats rigged the primaries against Bernie, did they also spy on him?
But, don't worry, Bob Barr has committed to getting to the bottom of all of this.