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Winning! New Remain in Mexico Policy.

These people are desperate to escape their countries.

Why? Because of the corruption and violence and poverty.

Where does that originate? The cartels.

How can the cartels do that? They have unlimited money.

How do they have unlimited money? Because they sell drugs.

To whom to they sell drugs? AMERICANS.

This "War on Drugs" has been a farce, and it has clearly contributed greatly to our border situation. Either we do something REAL about it, or we just keep pointing the finger at each other like children.
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No.

It originates from the people of the countries. The cartels did not magically appear out of dirt, and some of the countries the people come from are not related to the drug war.

But isn't it always hip to blame something on yourself or in other words Americans, when it is clear the other people are at fault. Huge virtue points awarded.
I know, it's all someone else's fault.

We should just stay out of it, keep sending billions in drug money down there, continue to watch American lives be ruined, keep sending our purchasing money to China, watch our economy be distorted by trade wars, and fight among ourselves when people flee here out of desperation.

Plenty of logic there, that's a solid plan, you bet, why not.
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These people are desperate to escape their countries.

Why? Because of the corruption and violence and poverty.

Where does that originate? The cartels.

How can the cartels do that? They have unlimited money.

How do they have unlimited money? Because they sell drugs.

To whom to they sell drugs? AMERICANS.

This "War on Drugs" has been a farce, and it has clearly contributed greatly to our border situation. Either we do something REAL about it, or we just keep pointing the finger at each other like children.
.

No.

It originates from the people of the countries. The cartels did not magically appear out of dirt, and some of the countries the people come from are not related to the drug war.

But isn't it always hip to blame something on yourself or in other words Americans, when it is clear the other people are at fault. Huge virtue points awarded.
I know, it's all someone else's fault.

We should just stay out of it, keep sending billions in drug money down there, continue to watch American lives be ruined, keep sending our purchasing money to China, and fight among ourselves when people flee here out of desperation.

Plenty of logic there, you bet, why not.
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I never said the drug war has been a success, or that there is nothing wrong with it.

But fundamentally, these places have been shitholes long before the drug war, and will be long after it. The real explanation the countries are shitholes is because of the people who keep making stupid choices and have an average IQ of 60-80. You can stop blaming yourself now.
 
These people are desperate to escape their countries.

Why? Because of the corruption and violence and poverty.

Where does that originate? The cartels.

How can the cartels do that? They have unlimited money.

How do they have unlimited money? Because they sell drugs.

To whom to they sell drugs? AMERICANS.

This "War on Drugs" has been a farce, and it has clearly contributed greatly to our border situation. Either we do something REAL about it, or we just keep pointing the finger at each other like children.
.

No.

It originates from the people of the countries. The cartels did not magically appear out of dirt, and some of the countries the people come from are not related to the drug war.

But isn't it always hip to blame something on yourself or in other words Americans, when it is clear the other people are at fault. Huge virtue points awarded.
I know, it's all someone else's fault.

We should just stay out of it, keep sending billions in drug money down there, continue to watch American lives be ruined, keep sending our purchasing money to China, and fight among ourselves when people flee here out of desperation.

Plenty of logic there, you bet, why not.
.

I never said the drug war has been a success, or that there is nothing wrong with it.

But fundamentally, these places have been shitholes long before the drug war, and will be long after it. The real explanation the countries are shitholes is because of the people who keep making stupid choices and have an average IQ of 60-80. You can stop blaming yourself now.
Sure, we can just give up and hide behind a wall.

After all, that's what made America great.
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All I can say is....it's a grand mess.......and getting worse.

We are so divided now that we are essentially a nation of many groups of vastly different peoples trying to force "our" way on the others.
We certainly are no longer the "United" States, except by Constitution.
This can only lead to discord and division. The exact opposite of the "diversity" that many pushed as the "solution".

The end result of all this can only lead to one thing......
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These people are desperate to escape their countries.

Why? Because of the corruption and violence and poverty.

Where does that originate? The cartels.

How can the cartels do that? They have unlimited money.

How do they have unlimited money? Because they sell drugs.

To whom to they sell drugs? AMERICANS.

This "War on Drugs" has been a farce, and it has clearly contributed greatly to our border situation. Either we do something REAL about it, or we just keep pointing the finger at each other like children.
.

No.

It originates from the people of the countries. The cartels did not magically appear out of dirt, and some of the countries the people come from are not related to the drug war.

But isn't it always hip to blame something on yourself or in other words Americans, when it is clear the other people are at fault. Huge virtue points awarded.
I know, it's all someone else's fault.

We should just stay out of it, keep sending billions in drug money down there, continue to watch American lives be ruined, keep sending our purchasing money to China, and fight among ourselves when people flee here out of desperation.

Plenty of logic there, you bet, why not.
.

I never said the drug war has been a success, or that there is nothing wrong with it.

But fundamentally, these places have been shitholes long before the drug war, and will be long after it. The real explanation the countries are shitholes is because of the people who keep making stupid choices and have an average IQ of 60-80. You can stop blaming yourself now.
Sure, we can just give up and hide behind a wall.

After all, that's what made America great.
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Give up on what. The drug war?

Wasn't that what you were advocating for?

Mac, think harder. These responses are just too damn intellectually lazy. Yes, we should give up on making 3rd world shitholes great, at least in the ways we currently go about it. Instead of making them great, we are making US a shithole like them.
 
Think about the top 20% for a minute. We aren't talking about multi-millionaires. We are talking about families earning 100k/yr or more. That is hardly rich. This would put you solidly in the middle class. Warren will undoutedly kill them. For those of us in a considerably higher percentile, we will be gutted. The country will fall economically.

The country economically failed in 2008 for most of us... I just can't get that worked up about the top 20% not being able to buy Dressage Horsies.

If you are making 100K a year, you can afford to pay your fair fucking share and shut the fuck up about it.

I know you haven't figured this out yet, but taking from the middle class at high levels and giving it to the growing number of poor will do nothing but bring everyone down, with the exception of those at supreme poverty levels. It is idiotic. There are reasons people are poor that extend beyond what you leftys always claim(racism, bad luck, family situations). Many times, people in the US are poor becaus they don't have the drive to suceed. Giving them more "free" stuff will only exacerbate that problem.

The thing you haven't figured out, why is the number of poor "growing".

Oh, that's because the people with "Drive to succeed" have succeeded by fucking over the 80%. I'd love to have a good union job like my Dad had, with job protections and good health insurance.

I'm a pragmatist... I don't have a lot. (I do okay). I don't want to inspire a poor person to slit my throat in my sleep because they want to sell my wide-screen. I'd rather keep them happy.

So, yeah, I'm totally good with taking from the 20% living in their gated communities pretending we don't have a problem and giving it to the poor to keep them from preying on the rest of us.

It's a good start.

A family making 100k/yr is not rich and already pays more than their fair share. My family makes significanly more than that and we pay through the nose. We also donatea good bit to our church, which in turn provides food to the homeless and various other campaigns. You think we should pay more just because, why? BTW, both my wife and I work for companies. We do no have our own business. We live in one of those terrible right to work red states that you loathe and we acknowlege the benefits our companies provide to us. Work ethic, knowledge, education and loyalty pay off. And as I have mentioned several times before, our standard of living is very, very good in this little ole red state of ours.

Your envy and vitcimhood consumes you and your thoughts. You are not alone based on the numbers of ignorant people that are considering voting for any of the Socialist running on the Democratic ticket.
 
What is truly entertaining is these satanists believing anyone actually buys they are giving their opinion on how to build a better society, rather than sharing their destruction manual.

JoeB you can not be dumb enough to believe that. Open borders have not worked anywhere, ever, except for conquerors and invaders. That is what you want to see.

Again, if you failed so badly at being white that a Mexican is a threat to your livlihood, than I am truly sorry you failed at life so badly.
 
What is truly entertaining is these satanists believing anyone actually buys they are giving their opinion on how to build a better society, rather than sharing their destruction manual.

JoeB you can not be dumb enough to believe that. Open borders have not worked anywhere, ever, except for conquerors and invaders. That is what you want to see.

Again, if you failed so badly at being white that a Mexican is a threat to your livlihood, than I am truly sorry you failed at life so badly.

If you failed so badly at being white that you have to rely on the top 20% to take care of you, then I am truly sorry you failed at life so badly. :04:
 
A family making 100k/yr is not rich and already pays more than their fair share. My family makes significanly more than that and we pay through the nose.

You aren't paying enough...

We also donatea good bit to our church, which in turn provides food to the homeless and various other campaigns.

That's worthless. Religion is useless...

You think we should pay more just because, why?

Because you are making too much money compared to people who work a lot harder. We've been over this.

BTW, both my wife and I work for companies. We do no have our own business. We live in one of those terrible right to work red states that you loathe and we acknowlege the benefits our companies provide to us. Work ethic, knowledge, education and loyalty pay off.

Yeah,I Used to believe that SHIT. Then I busted up my knee and my company fucked me over. Now I realize that the way to tell when a manager is lying is to check if his lips are moving.

And as I have mentioned several times before, our standard of living is very, very good in this little ole red state of ours.

I'm sure you have the nicest double wide in the trailer park, Cleetus.

Your envy and vitcimhood consumes you and your thoughts. You are not alone based on the numbers of ignorant people that are considering voting for any of the Socialist running on the Democratic ticket.

Yeah, now why is that? I mean, if the economy is so awesome (it isn't for most of us), why is Trump trailing Biden, Warren and even Commie Bernie Sanders?

Well, you'll figure it out... Hopefully before the People's Committee commandeers your double wide.
 
If you failed so badly at being white that you have to rely on the top 20% to take care of you, then I am truly sorry you failed at life so badly.

Uh, no, guy... I just try to avoid letting those people fuck me. Once we redistribute the wealth and restore the rights of the working man, they'll have even less ability to do so.
 
Thank you Mexico! We have more coming back! Lol

BBYE DEMOCRAT VOTERS!
 
You aren't paying enough...

I am paying more than enough thank you. We pay more in taxes than many make in a year.

That's worthless. Religion is useless...

Sure, useless except for doing many things for the people you purport to want to help. Democrats are hypocrites.

Because you are making too much money compared to people who work a lot harder. We've been over this.

You have no idea how hard I work. Granted, neither my wife nor I are digging ditches, but we provide services that a typical ditch digger can't perform.

Yeah,I Used to believe that SHIT. Then I busted up my knee and my company fucked me over. Now I realize that the way to tell when a manager is lying is to check if his lips are moving.

Sorry you had such a bad experience. You keep saying you use to believe this and that and you were once a Republican. I can't imagine how you were ever a Republican. What is the last Republican you voted for?

I'm sure you have the nicest double wide in the trailer park, Cleetus.

Yep, that's all of us in these red states, just like you urban dwellers live in rat-infested dumps. The ironic thing is the latter more actually reflects reality.

Yeah, now why is that? I mean, if the economy is so awesome (it isn't for most of us), why is Trump trailing Biden, Warren and even Commie Bernie Sanders?

Well, you'll figure it out... Hopefully before the People's Committee commandeers your double wide.

This is too easy. For starters, you believe the polls. That is laughable, but I don't expect any less. Also, those who don't want to work, or work hard, is growing thanks to the leftists. The more dependency, the more control, the more votes. Promise free stuff. They love that. STEAL money from somebody else is their answer. You are falling in line very nicely. They love useful idiots, which is why they want more and more uneducated folks pouring over our borders to eventually become citizens and vote Those that do get an education will be educated in the US and indoctrinated accordingly.
 
Uh, no, guy... I just try to avoid letting those people fuck me. Once we redistribute the wealth and restore the rights of the working man, they'll have even less ability to do so.

You realize that even Europe recognized that a wealth tax doesn't work. The rest of the world is cheering for one of the leftists, particularly nut job Warren, to be elected in the US. It is a gift to our enemies. Let us destroy ourselves. The sad part is that many leftists think it is a GOOD thing that the rest of the world may like Warren or any of the leftists. Common sense is nowhere to be found among Democrats.
 
Uh, no, guy... I just try to avoid letting those people fuck me. Once we redistribute the wealth and restore the rights of the working man, they'll have even less ability to do so.

Even if there was some way to redistribute the wealth and make everything even, after a short time things would be back to the way they are now.

It is the nature of the world we live in. Some are just better at making or saving money than others. Some people are just willing to work harder or are just smarter or are willing to be more ruthless.

Jeff Bezos did not start off with any more money than I did, and while I am now comfortably in the 10% he is the top of the heap.

And while I am comfortably in the 10% a friend I was in the Corps with who is my age struggles to make ends meet and lives on the edge of the debt chasm. We had the same starting point and both got to where we were due to the choices we made...why should my wealth be distributed to him?
 
Uh, no, guy... I just try to avoid letting those people fuck me. Once we redistribute the wealth and restore the rights of the working man, they'll have even less ability to do so.

Even if there was some way to redistribute the wealth and make everything even, after a short time things would be back to the way they are now.

Well almost... we would no longer have plumbing or toilet paper like the countries Joe wants to turn US into. And America would be populated by Mexicans, not western Europeans. Of course his ultimate goal is to just transform the country to hell, which he prefers.
 
I am paying more than enough thank you. We pay more in taxes than many make in a year.

Exactly....

The wealth is not fairly distributed.

Sure, useless except for doing many things for the people you purport to want to help. Democrats are hypocrites.

Making people grovel in front of an imaginary sky fairy to eat. It's actually kind of cruel.

You have no idea how hard I work. Granted, neither my wife nor I are digging ditches, but we provide services that a typical ditch digger can't perform.

In short, the system rewards you, while punishing everyone else, and you wonder why everyone else loves them some Commie Bernie.

Sorry you had such a bad experience. You keep saying you use to believe this and that and you were once a Republican. I can't imagine how you were ever a Republican. What is the last Republican you voted for?

John McCain, actually. I also made the mistake of voting for Bruce Rauner for Governor.

Yes, after my boss totally fucked me over after six years of loyal service, and then boasted, "I'm glad I don't have to deal with a union", I realized that I don't make enough money to vote for a Democrat.

This is too easy. For starters, you believe the polls. That is laughable, but I don't expect any less. Also, those who don't want to work, or work hard, is growing thanks to the leftists. The more dependency, the more control, the more votes. Promise free stuff. They love that. STEAL money from somebody else is their answer. You are falling in line very nicely. They love useful idiots, which is why they want more and more uneducated folks pouring over our borders to eventually become citizens and vote Those that do get an education will be educated in the US and indoctrinated accordingly.

Why would anyone want to "work hard" when the One Percenters just find new ways to screw them? I've been working since I was 16. That job where my boss cured my Republican tendencies, I was putting in 60 hours a week before I busted up my knee.

The reality... people are realizing that it's kind of a lie, that if you work yourself to death you'll be rewarded. That's why Commie Bernie is so popular. (And even I think he's too far to the left, but if it comes down to him and the Orange Shitgibbon)

You realize that even Europe recognized that a wealth tax doesn't work. The rest of the world is cheering for one of the leftists, particularly nut job Warren, to be elected in the US. It is a gift to our enemies. Let us destroy ourselves. The sad part is that many leftists think it is a GOOD thing that the rest of the world may like Warren or any of the leftists. Common sense is nowhere to be found among Democrats.

Yes, Europe hates us because of our "Freedom". You keep telling yourself that, you ignorant, inbred fuck.

The funny thing about Europe and Japan. They were able to implement the New Deal vision without any interference from Republicans. After WWII, the New Dealers went over, established the kind of social compacts FDR wanted, and lo and behold, within 30 years, these war torn countries were eating our lunch.
 
Even if there was some way to redistribute the wealth and make everything even, after a short time things would be back to the way they are now.

It is the nature of the world we live in. Some are just better at making or saving money than others. Some people are just willing to work harder or are just smarter or are willing to be more ruthless.

I'm sure they are... The question is, do we let them get away with it.

America had it's greatest prosperity from 1945 to 1980, when the Rich paid confiscatory taxes, 33% of workers belonged to unions, and government regulated industries closely.
 

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