Women Giving up Seats on American Airliners for Religious Accomodation?

[Brynmr]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

 

[flacaltenn]

Evidently some Western airlines discriminate against men. Won't seat unescorted minors next to male passengers.
As tho they've never heard of women predators or pesky Cougars.

Airline seating sex discrimination controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Finally -- I have a case.. Gonna go start the initial chapter of N.O.Men

BTW -- the FLIGHT CREW on that flight was prohibited from serving or addressing the men.

That seems a bit extreme but...funny. So...how do the men get served? They don't?

Just means they were told not to offer them snacks and drinks or headphones. Better question is -- what if their seatbacks weren't in the upright position or they needed to do a lap belt check??

Betcha if the oxygen masks didn't deploy -- the monks would make an exception and ask for forgiveness later..

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

Then go for it, clown shoes. Just don't whine when we mock you for it.

I can't for the life of me understand those who actively chose ignorance because it makes them feel better.

 

[Brynmr]

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

Maybe they are in exile. Like the Dali Llama. I know Pakistan is a kind of Buddhist holy land with some of the oldest shrines in the world. At least the ones the Taliban haven't destroyed.

Maybe they were transgender men intimidated by women who liked dressing up as monks.

 

[Brynmr]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

Then go for it, clown shoes. Just don't whine when we mock you for it.

I can't for the life of me understand those who actively chose ignorance because it makes them feel better.

You have quite the collection of straw man arguments there. LOL

 

[StLucieBengal]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

That's the obvious answer.

But I posed this before and I didn't see anyone address this ....

how do we know these paki's were monks?

Is this story just from the woman who was moved and is she just basing it off what the gate agent told her?

I worked at an airline during summers in college. Gate agent is no joke. And I know what happens when Arab or African men get frustrated at the gate. They yell and bully until their needs are met.

So how are we basing this Paki monk idea? Did anyone talk to these paki's? I imagine it's pretty easy to move a woman's seat to stop two men from yelling at you while you are trying to ensure everyone is boarded and the flight leaves the gate on time.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Ajaan Fuang got that part right about men having "mental defilements'. Which I suppose is a nice Buddhist way of saying we can file crap unless it's about sex or sports or power tools. Great phrase isn't it?

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

I know they don't support immediate deportation when an illegal rapes an American.

Muslims will always come into the discussion when the topic is weird and archaic beliefs towards women.

If you don't like this then by all means .... have a reformation

I'd much prefer that rapists go to prison, rather than just be pushed across the border and sent on their way...

Why should we be paying to jail someone else's problem?

 

[StLucieBengal]

It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the so called "monks" were Moslem since Pakistan is over 96% Islam and the Liberal media is shielding Islam from getting a bad rap.

Maybe they are in exile. Like the Dali Llama. I know Pakistan is a kind of Buddhist holy land with some of the oldest shrines in the world. At least the ones the Taliban haven't destroyed.

Maybe they were transgender men intimidated by women who liked dressing up as monks.

Maybe the gate agent should have just said .... yes it's a female sounding name but for this flight they are going tranny.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You know what is interesting? The position of women in all this. Whether it's Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists. Women are covered up or seperated or not to be touched because men can't possibly be expected to "not defile" themselves or control their urges. It touches upon the issue of rape too, where women are blamed for being to scantily dressed.

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

I know they don't support immediate deportation when an illegal rapes an American.

Muslims will always come into the discussion when the topic is weird and archaic beliefs towards women.

If you don't like this then by all means .... have a reformation

I'd much prefer that rapists go to prison, rather than just be pushed across the border and sent on their way...

Why should we be paying to jail someone else's problem?

They become "our" problem when they rape "us".

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

Then go for it, clown shoes. Just don't whine when we mock you for it.

I can't for the life of me understand those who actively chose ignorance because it makes them feel better.

You have quite the collection of straw man arguments there. LOL

I don't think you quite understand what a "straw man argument" is.

 

[flacaltenn]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

That's the obvious answer.

But I posed this before and I didn't see anyone address this ....

how do we know these paki's were monks?

Is this story just from the woman who was moved and is she just basing it off what the gate agent told her?

I worked at an airline during summers in college. Gate agent is no joke. And I know what happens when Arab or African men get frustrated at the gate. They yell and bully until their needs are met.

So how are we basing this Paki monk idea? Did anyone talk to these paki's? I imagine it's pretty easy to move a woman's seat to stop two men from yelling at you while you are trying to ensure everyone is boarded and the flight leaves the gate on time.

If you actually read the OP -- you would find that's how United Airlines explained the situation to the woman. She made up nothing. You have a hard time with this thread because facts in evidence don't fit your EXPECTED narrative. Muslim clerics do not LOOK like Buddhist clerics.

I really don't understand your reluctance to accept the narrative. And NO --- we'll never get the two orange-robed guys to give a statement. Just go with it.

 

[flacaltenn]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

That's the obvious answer.

But I posed this before and I didn't see anyone address this ....

how do we know these paki's were monks?

Is this story just from the woman who was moved and is she just basing it off what the gate agent told her?

I worked at an airline during summers in college. Gate agent is no joke. And I know what happens when Arab or African men get frustrated at the gate. They yell and bully until their needs are met.

So how are we basing this Paki monk idea? Did anyone talk to these paki's? I imagine it's pretty easy to move a woman's seat to stop two men from yelling at you while you are trying to ensure everyone is boarded and the flight leaves the gate on time.

Buddhist monks YELLING and BULLYING??

 

[StLucieBengal]

Leftist don't care about rape unless a white christian male is the raper.

There are a lot of women's issues being swept under the rug because people are afraid of being called an islamaphobe.

You don't know too much about leftists if you think that.

And this OP doesn't even involve Muslims.

I know they don't support immediate deportation when an illegal rapes an American.

Muslims will always come into the discussion when the topic is weird and archaic beliefs towards women.

If you don't like this then by all means .... have a reformation

I'd much prefer that rapists go to prison, rather than just be pushed across the border and sent on their way...

Why should we be paying to jail someone else's problem?

They become "our" problem when they rape "us".

No they actually don't. It's not our job to feed them. Deport, put them on a permanent ban list to ever return.

We have humane prisons here... and non American citizens shouldn't get the same prison that Americans get ...

 

[StLucieBengal]

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

That's the obvious answer.

But I posed this before and I didn't see anyone address this ....

how do we know these paki's were monks?

Is this story just from the woman who was moved and is she just basing it off what the gate agent told her?

I worked at an airline during summers in college. Gate agent is no joke. And I know what happens when Arab or African men get frustrated at the gate. They yell and bully until their needs are met.

So how are we basing this Paki monk idea? Did anyone talk to these paki's? I imagine it's pretty easy to move a woman's seat to stop two men from yelling at you while you are trying to ensure everyone is boarded and the flight leaves the gate on time.

Buddhist monks YELLING and BULLYING??

People from Pakistan act this way.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Now you're on to something! Why should she move and not them? My new solution is move the two of them to a 3-seater that are all free or where one man is seated. If there are no one-man-with-2-seats-free then the two Pakis will have to sit separated from one another. And this time that's my FINAL ANSWER!

They probably belong on the no-fly list. Problem solved.

 

[Coyote]

Too many people under the impression that this is EXCLUSIVELY a "Muslim Issue". Read the damned OP -- BOTH LINKS...

Yeah I saw you carefully placed the Orthodox Jews in the same boat. Nice attempt to cover up for the Muslims.

We all can deal with little issues from Orthodox Jews from time to time because they don't bother anyone. Nor do they oppress, kill, or rape women and children. And yell from the roof tops about their blood lust for anyone not in their religion.

Hmmmm....so...a couple of Muslims (that aren't bothering anyone) must be treated differently than a couple of Buddhists (who aren't bothering anyone) or a couple of Orthodox Jews (that aren't bothering anyone)...

Yes.

But I would tell each of them to piss off because we don't forcibly move women anywhere at the whimes of any man.

The people with the weird issue need to adjust to the rest of us. Not the other way around.

I agree in general - I don't have a problem with being asked, nicely if I would - being forced though - BAD MANAGEMENT on the airline's part.

That's the obvious answer.

But I posed this before and I didn't see anyone address this ....

how do we know these paki's were monks?

Is this story just from the woman who was moved and is she just basing it off what the gate agent told her?

I worked at an airline during summers in college. Gate agent is no joke. And I know what happens when Arab or African men get frustrated at the gate. They yell and bully until their needs are met.

So how are we basing this Paki monk idea? Did anyone talk to these paki's? I imagine it's pretty easy to move a woman's seat to stop two men from yelling at you while you are trying to ensure everyone is boarded and the flight leaves the gate on time.

I think the more important question is - why are you working so hard to disprove it?

 

[Brynmr]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

Then go for it, clown shoes. Just don't whine when we mock you for it.

I can't for the life of me understand those who actively chose ignorance because it makes them feel better.

You have quite the collection of straw man arguments there. LOL

I don't think you quite understand what a "straw man argument" is.

I do and you had at last 2 of them in your last post.

Straw Man Argument
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Here is a search for Pakistani Imams.

I sure do notice lots of orange robes.

pakistani imams - Google Search

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You've made it clear that you're going assume

Yes I am.

Then go for it, clown shoes. Just don't whine when we mock you for it.

I can't for the life of me understand those who actively chose ignorance because it makes them feel better.

You have quite the collection of straw man arguments there. LOL

I don't think you quite understand what a "straw man argument" is.

I do and you had at last 2 of them in your last post.

Straw Man Argument
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet weaker proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

So you can cut and paste from Wikipedia. Good for you. We're all very impressed.

Why don't you tell us what "straw men" I used?

 

[Weatherman2020]

California Woman Forced To Change Airline Seat To Accommodate Muslim Passengers…

Your point?

Non Christians are assholes.

Everyone has the God given potential to be an asshole and all too frequently fulfills that potential.

And nonChristians excel.