"You didn't get there on your own"

[Article 15]

The truth is that Obama was just stating the obvious.

Barry had two communist parents , voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, is beloved by the CPUSA, and just coincidentially is just stating what was obvious to Karl Marx.

As a liberal you lack the IQ to grasp that Barry's creeping communism is a cancer on our society.

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy, Socialism, and Public Education « Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

Thanks for sharing, nutter.

*pats on head*

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Thanks for sharing, nutter.

*pats on head*

I know we tend to laugh at these rabid fierce racist scum, but the republiklan party is currently filled with these guys, hell, the baggers in the house and senate are not as smart as some of the baggers on this board,

think about that for a minute

 

[EriktheRed]

The truth is that Obama was just stating the obvious.

Barry had two communist parents , voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, is beloved by the CPUSA, and just coincidentially is just stating what was obvious to Karl Marx.

As a liberal you lack the IQ to grasp that Barry's creeping communism is a cancer on our society.

Norman Thomas quotes:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.


This was precisely the tactic of “infiltration” advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:
"Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp."[4]

C. S. Lewis on Diabolical Democracy, Socialism, and Public Education « Conservative Colloquium


Buckley endorsed Chambers’ analysis of modern liberalism as a watered-down version of Communist ideology. The New Deal, Chambers insists, is not liberal democratic but “revolutionary” in its nature and intentions, seeking “a basic change in the social and, above all, the power relationships within the nation.”

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Of course they cant refute it, they arent that stupid, filled with hate yes, pretty stupid yes, but not that stupid

 

[Listening]

The truth is that Obama was just stating the obvious.

Barry had two communist parents , voted to the left of Bernie Sanders

well, it is official, you are insane

and cannot prove anything since you are completely insane

my god, i am embarrassed to be in the same country as you

So when you Independents question my comments about how RACIST these liars are, well, dont...

oh and ed the racist, you owe me another $10K

scum...pure scum

Please get with Franco and book tickets to Cuba.

They will love you there and we will not miss your sorry ass AT ALL.

 

[Listening]

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

Someone in my family starts a travel agency in a small town that has a number of well to do people.

The town is not incorporated.

How did they get help from the government ?

 

[ConzHateUSA]

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

Someone in my family starts a travel agency in a small town that has a number of well to do people.

The town is not incorporated.

How did they get help from the government ?

dear god...this person actually does not know

and they chose a travel agency LOL

This is why I say I have one percent left of me willing to hope they can be educated, changed...otherwise the road ahead is very bumpy...

 

[Listening]

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

Someone in my family starts a travel agency in a small town that has a number of well to do people.

The town is not incorporated.

How did they get help from the government ?

dear god...this person actually does not know

and they chose a travel agency LOL

This is why I say I have one percent left of me willing to hope they can be educated, changed...otherwise the road ahead is very bumpy...

And the answer is ?

Well, for starters, there was a business license which had to come through some county entity.

It took a lawyer to help fill it out and there was nothing of value in it. This is a cost thanks to government.

A small building was rented to start as an office......enough for two desks. The building had been vacant. The country required several upgrades in order to allow occupancy...none of which mattered or made sense. That cost was shouldered by the business...not the building owner. This is a cost thanks to government.

To install telephones in the building cost a small fortune. Most of it due to the way they had to be installed...thanks to "code"....again, none of which brought value. Cost due to government.

No sewers...septic tank.

Water supply done through a private firm....for profit. Regulated by the county. Firm disclosed that stupid regulations and red tape made the cost of water 10% greater.

Nothing so for that "you didn't build"

But a lot of "you paid for that"

 

[EriktheRed]

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

Someone in my family starts a travel agency in a small town that has a number of well to do people.

The town is not incorporated.

How did they get help from the government ?

How do people travel?

 

[Murf76]

Jesus fuck y'all have completely lost it.

How so? Do you really believe all that is evil and greedy and corrupting in the world is found in the activity of the business owner? Do you honestly believe it is government that makes business prosper? Or do you think it might be the other way around and it is people prospering in the private sector that makes those in government prosper?

Or do you see as Fearless Leader apparently does that there is no such thing as the private sector? It ALL belongs to everybody?

How so?

You've taken intellectual dishonesty to new levels with this nonsense.

What you, and other lying douchebags have done, is fabricate this idea that Obama is saying the only reason businesses thrive is because of government/what we collectively provide. This is a big lie and you guys are in the process of repeating often enough and loud enough to try to make it true.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, [size5]]but also because we do things together[/size5].

This is the point that Obama was making and he said this immediately following the alleged big scary things that he said. The truth is that Obama was just stating the obvious. It's not funny that you conveniently ignore this, and Mitt Romney saying almost exactly the same thing to the Olympians, and instead fabricate a lie, it's pathetic.

Yup. That's where he CONFIRMS that he really said what we thought he said.

It's the "...but because we do things together" that infers a vested public interest in private enterprises. It's just like most other uses of the word "but". One gives a small concession in an effort to be nice, but then they get to the main point. So we throw out everything before the word "but".
ie. I like you, but I think we should see other people. = We should see other people.

When it comes to these businesses though, Obama is still WRONG. There's no "we do thing together" in this. These people PAY their share of the taxes which create the infrastructure and then some. They're not free-riders. They pay as they go. Obama infers that they owe something. They don't. Their debt is paid, and more so than the true "free riders" we have in this country, people who are offsetting what little bit they do pay by taking welfare dollars.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

I have $50 that says she simply wont get it

 

[ConzHateUSA]

racism is so ugly...eh, can we just wait for all the racists to die off naturally?

 

[Dr.House]

IOW, you can't actually refute the idea put forth by the Prez (and others) that business success has also had help from government.

Someone in my family starts a travel agency in a small town that has a number of well to do people.

The town is not incorporated.

How did they get help from the government ?

How do people travel?

Along the same roads that didn't help failed businesses... They didn't get there on their own, huh? The government helped them fail, right?

 

[flacaltenn]

Jesus fuck y'all have completely lost it.

How so? Do you really believe all that is evil and greedy and corrupting in the world is found in the activity of the business owner? Do you honestly believe it is government that makes business prosper? Or do you think it might be the other way around and it is people prospering in the private sector that makes those in government prosper?

Or do you see as Fearless Leader apparently does that there is no such thing as the private sector? It ALL belongs to everybody?

How so?

You've taken intellectual dishonesty to new levels with this nonsense.

What you, and other lying douchebags have done, is fabricate this idea that Obama is saying the only reason businesses thrive is because of government/what we collectively provide. This is a big lie and you guys are in the process of repeating often enough and loud enough to try to make it true.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

This is the point that Obama was making and he said this immediately following the alleged big scary things that he said. The truth is that Obama was just stating the obvious. It's not funny that you conveniently ignore this, and Mitt Romney saying almost exactly the same thing to the Olympians, and instead fabricate a lie, it's pathetic.

You can't disguise the message that Obama believes that all HARD WORK ("A LOT of folks work hard") should have equal value.. A prime tenet of the collectivist idealogy that he was immersed in.. Or that you didn't excel in a business venture because you are smart ("there's a LOT of smart people out there")

If working HARD was the only determinant for recieving great fortune -- we should take away MicroSoft Excel and force everyone to use pencils and slide rules.

Or hand out more shovels and less construction equipment.

This idea that somehow creators, innovators and outstanding performers didn't work harder and smarter than the window washers they hired is the very BASIS of collectivism.

I have no doubts that some special needs students work REAL HARD. Doesn't mean they get to be valedictorian of the class.

And no -- society doesn't value sweat labor.. They value TALENT, RESOLVE, and Creativity.
That's just the reality of life.. Try to distort that reality -- and you end up defending the indefensible..

All hard-working folks do not produce equal value.. Keep up that charade and your class warfare and see what the result of your hard work will be...

 

[Dr.House]

racism is so ugly...eh, can we just wait for all the racists to die off naturally?

When you're gone that'll be one less racist fuckstain in the world...

True Story, Bro...

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Again, racist, get an education please

for instance, which american president resided over top tax rates at 70%_________________

35% __________________________

 

[ConzHateUSA]

which president created the EPA _____________

 

[ConzHateUSA]

which right wing org created the individual mandate ________________

 

[ConzHateUSA]

which right wing org and politicians supported carbon tax ___________________

 

[ConzHateUSA]

which republican politicians supported ending DADT ___________________