9 year old exercises his "freedom" by shooting his sister in the head.

[2aguy]

It will help this little psycho's next victim
and the parents won't endanger their other kids by being negligent.

And I agree we should protect kids from their parents after all parents kill their kids quite often

Thank you.

Liberal parents kill FAR more children without a gun every year than people with guns hands down. It's not even a contest.

Especially LIBERAL parents who are into self pleasure above all else and consider the pregnancies resulting from their liberal escapades a mistake and then seek abortions so they can get back in the game as fast as possible for some more "liberal" fun.

Seeds not children.

^^^^ Well Saddam Hussein was a Socialist so it is to be expected Leftists historically love violence and having anyone who disagrees with them murdered, the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party which Saddam was head of in Iraq:

Ba'ath Party (Iraqi-dominated faction) - Wikipedia

So do fascists and Trump is a fascist if I've ever seen one.

Yeah, giving more of the working people more of their own money, sure is Fascism......

Crumbs.

And yes, Hitler too promised everyone would be better off financially if he was in charge. Moussalini too. So giving you a few bucks to make you happy and shut you up is right out of the fascist playbook.

And the first thing they both did was confiscate guns.

Dang! Look at all our guns that have been confiscated!!!!!!!

Obama appointed justices and judges who are doing that right now...the 9th and 4th circuits are banning guns.....and had hilary won she would have finished his job, and would have ended the Lawful Commerce in Arms act....and sued gun makers out of existence...

We know how you operate, and we are going to fight you each step of the way.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The only problem is that the parent was negligent and/or just stupid and had a gun that they did not secure with the safety lock, so how are you going to Legislate against Individual Stupidity? You cannot.

Correct.
Liberals never seem to accept responsibility. Whether it's an unwanted pregnancy, drunk driver, illegal immigration or an isolated gun tragedy.

They will always blame the object when it suits their pro government oppression agenda.

Look how little they said about the shooter in the recent Stoneman Douglas Florida shooting.
The Left media gave probably 2,000 hours of air time to the OBJECT (gun), but I can only recall a few minutes placing the blame on the shooter. Much less if any on the liberal Progressive agenda that created him.

As I have said on numerous occasions, there is no fix for the USA that involves the acceptance of Liberal / Progressive agendas.
They are completely opposite the ethics and foundation of the nation.
Their cause is to "fundamentally" change it into something else. They recently succeeded in Venezuela.

If more people knew what liberalism(new age, not classical) is and how Marxism is the driving force, then more people would move away from it. But as it is said, many don't want to think, just let someone else do the thinking for them.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written between 1940 and 1943 by Austrian British economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek, in which the author "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (including National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

andaronjim

I did not know that many in the American nation know of Friedrich Hayek, have you read many of his works? I recommend "The Constitution of Liberty" published in 1960, Hayek correctly in his philosophy says that Civilisation is only made possible by the fundamental principles of Liberty, which are the prerequisites for wealth and economic and social growth.

It is a lengthy book, but I specifically want to mention Part I the Chapter V in which Hayek writes about Responsibility and Freedom:

"Liberty not only means that the individual has both the opportunity and the burden of choice, it also means that he must bear the consequences of his actions … Liberty and responsibility are inseparable.

A society that does not recognize that each individual has values of his own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity of the individual and cannot really know freedom."

This is only the second time at this forum I have seen someone post regarding him and only the second time at this forum I have responded to a post regarding him.

The first occasion of this Sept 21 2016:

He died in 1992 when I was 2 years in age and he was 92 years in age, so unfortunately I never had the honour of meeting such a genius but my family members who met and knew him the ones still living have told me what excellent company Hayek was and also that he had a bizarro sense of humour that I would have appreciated.

Here are some quotes from Hayek, I have chosen the below specific quotes because there are of course very relevant to this contemporary period we are in:

 

[MrShangles]

US boy, 9, 'kills sister over video game'

Only in America.

A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi has died after allegedly being shot by her nine-year-old brother over a video game, police say.

They said the boy grabbed a gun on Saturday afternoon after his sister would not give up the controller.

He allegedly shot her from behind, and the bullet entered her brain.

A local sheriff announced on Sunday that the teen had died of her injuries in a Memphis hospital. It was unclear how the boy obtained the gun.

It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face.

"He's just nine," Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

"I assume he's seen this on video games or TV. I don't know if he knew exactly what this would do. I can't answer that. I do know it's a tragedy."

Every time people are like "This is unbelievable", how can it be, it happens all the time.

Will the right come out and say it's not the gun's fault? That without this gun this kid would just have used a chair and put it through her brain?

Ok I’ll be the first righty, did these children live alone?
Why did parents leave gun unsecured?
It’s a bad thing either way, but I put blame on the parents.


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[HenryBHough]

Ah, Tainted One....so sad you never had a sister.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

It will help this little psycho's next victim
and the parents won't endanger their other kids by being negligent.

And I agree we should protect kids from their parents after all parents kill their kids quite often

Thank you.

Liberal parents kill FAR more children without a gun every year than people with guns hands down. It's not even a contest.

Especially LIBERAL parents who are into self pleasure above all else and consider the pregnancies resulting from their liberal escapades a mistake and then seek abortions so they can get back in the game as fast as possible for some more "liberal" fun.

Seeds not children.

Yes I was serious. Or, it more reminded me of when Saddam called all his countries leaders together and then started naming names. If he called your name you were not only fired you were led away and never heard from again.



Watch this. Only 3 minutes and 40 seconds long. You see the men when they are called out each one of them stands up to protest but to no avail. Each one is led away and murdered.

So Trump hasn't started murdering anyone yet but he is firing anyone who isn't LOYAL.

Yes, Trump is highly unusual. I wouldn't call him Hitler but I also wouldn't call him Jimmy Carter either.

^^^^ Well Saddam Hussein was a Socialist so it is to be expected Leftists historically love violence and having anyone who disagrees with them murdered, the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party which Saddam was head of in Iraq:

Ba'ath Party (Iraqi-dominated faction) - Wikipedia

So do fascists and Trump is a fascist if I've ever seen one.

Yeah, giving more of the working people more of their own money, sure is Fascism......

Crumbs.

And yes, Hitler too promised everyone would be better off financially if he was in charge. Moussalini too. So giving you a few bucks to make you happy and shut you up is right out of the fascist playbook.

You mean like EBT, welfare, Obamaphones? You're onto something

^^^^ What is EBT Sassy? I know you are not meaning the Euler–Bernoulli Theory, so it is something EBT I am not knowing.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It will help this little psycho's next victim
and the parents won't endanger their other kids by being negligent.

And I agree we should protect kids from their parents after all parents kill their kids quite often

Thank you.

Liberal parents kill FAR more children without a gun every year than people with guns hands down. It's not even a contest.

Especially LIBERAL parents who are into self pleasure above all else and consider the pregnancies resulting from their liberal escapades a mistake and then seek abortions so they can get back in the game as fast as possible for some more "liberal" fun.

Seeds not children.

^^^^ Well Saddam Hussein was a Socialist so it is to be expected Leftists historically love violence and having anyone who disagrees with them murdered, the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party which Saddam was head of in Iraq:

Ba'ath Party (Iraqi-dominated faction) - Wikipedia

So do fascists and Trump is a fascist if I've ever seen one.

Yeah, giving more of the working people more of their own money, sure is Fascism......

Crumbs.

And yes, Hitler too promised everyone would be better off financially if he was in charge. Moussalini too. So giving you a few bucks to make you happy and shut you up is right out of the fascist playbook.

You mean like EBT, welfare, Obamaphones? You're onto something

^^^^ What is EBT Sassy? I know you are not meaning the Euler–Bernoulli Theory, so it is something EBT I am not knowing.

EBT = Food stamps

 

[MindWars]

Read the TOP LMDAO, and the idiot who let their kid get a hold of a gun is probably a leftist parasite who owned the gun.

 

[toobfreak]

US boy, 9, 'kills sister over video game'

Only in America.

A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi has died after allegedly being shot by her nine-year-old brother over a video game, police say.

They said the boy grabbed a gun on Saturday afternoon after his sister would not give up the controller.

He allegedly shot her from behind, and the bullet entered her brain.

A local sheriff announced on Sunday that the teen had died of her injuries in a Memphis hospital. It was unclear how the boy obtained the gun.

It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face.

"He's just nine," Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

"I assume he's seen this on video games or TV. I don't know if he knew exactly what this would do. I can't answer that. I do know it's a tragedy."

You mean the boy was British? But it has already been harshly rebuked by numerous people on this board that TV and video games DO NOT lead to violence.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The only problem is that the parent was negligent and/or just stupid and had a gun that they did not secure with the safety lock, so how are you going to Legislate against Individual Stupidity? You cannot.

Correct.
Liberals never seem to accept responsibility. Whether it's an unwanted pregnancy, drunk driver, illegal immigration or an isolated gun tragedy.

They will always blame the object when it suits their pro government oppression agenda.

Look how little they said about the shooter in the recent Stoneman Douglas Florida shooting.
The Left media gave probably 2,000 hours of air time to the OBJECT (gun), but I can only recall a few minutes placing the blame on the shooter. Much less if any on the liberal Progressive agenda that created him.

As I have said on numerous occasions, there is no fix for the USA that involves the acceptance of Liberal / Progressive agendas.
They are completely opposite the ethics and foundation of the nation.
Their cause is to "fundamentally" change it into something else. They recently succeeded in Venezuela.

If more people knew what liberalism(new age, not classical) is and how Marxism is the driving force, then more people would move away from it. But as it is said, many don't want to think, just let someone else do the thinking for them.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written between 1940 and 1943 by Austrian British economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek, in which the author "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (including National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

andaronjim

I did not know that many in the American nation know of Friedrich Hayek, have you read many of his works? I recommend "The Constitution of Liberty" published in 1960, Hayek correctly in his philosophy says that Civilisation is only made possible by the fundamental principles of Liberty, which are the prerequisites for wealth and economic and social growth.

It is a lengthy book, but I specifically want to mention Part I the Chapter V in which Hayek writes about Responsibility and Freedom:

"Liberty not only means that the individual has both the opportunity and the burden of choice, it also means that he must bear the consequences of his actions … Liberty and responsibility are inseparable.

A society that does not recognize that each individual has values of his own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity of the individual and cannot really know freedom."

This is only the second time at this forum I have seen someone post regarding him and only the second time at this forum I have responded to a post regarding him.

The first occasion of this Sept 21 2016:

He died in 1992 when I was 2 years in age and he was 92 years in age, so unfortunately I never had the honour of meeting such a genius but my family members who met and knew him the ones still living have told me what excellent company Hayek was and also that he had a bizarro sense of humour that I would have appreciated.

Here are some quotes from Hayek, I have chosen the below specific quotes because there are of course very relevant to this contemporary period we are in:

He was a man before his time. He saw what humanity is capable of, both for the good and the bad. Shame they don't teach this is public education. But then we wouldn't be indoctrinating people to be sheep either.

 

[koshergrl]

Police: Girl, 5, Confessed To Drowning 18-Month-Old Boy In Bathtub Because He 'Cried Too Much' | HuffPost

How did she get a TUB??

We must ban tubs.

 

[koshergrl]

Wait..it's not tubs..it's WATER.
Ban water! You fucking monsters! Think of the children!

Girl, four, accidentally drowned her two-year-old brother in a few inches of water after turning on bath taps | Daily Mail Online

 

[OldLady]

That's not really the point here is it?

The reason he was able to shoot his sister was because of the gun. Why was there a gun in the house? Why was he able to get a gun? Because of the 2A, the NRA, the attitude towards guns in the US.

Wow!

You refuse to acknowledge the failure of the parent and blame everyone else!

It is amazing how you just toss everyone into the same pot as the parent!

Why was the gun in the house?

Because the person passed the State requirements to own the firearm.

Why was the kid able to obtain the firearm to kill their sister?

The failure of the parent to secure the firearm properly to make sure that their son was not able to get to it without their knowledge!

Now explain to the good board how it is the NRA fault for the parent failure?

I am not part of the NRA but I will be damn if I will ever agree with those like you that put the blame on others for the failure of one or two people!

As a parent it is your job to secure the firearm and if you fail to do so then you are responsible for what your child has done with your firearm along with them!

Not me, not the NRA and not gun owners across this country but you are responsible for securing your firearm and if you do own any my advice to you is to sell them because if you fail to secure your firearm you will blame society and not yourself for your failure in life!

Why was the gun in the house?
Exactly.

^^^^

To quote Bruce:

"Because the person passed the State requirements to own the firearm."

Apparently, there's the problem.

The only problem is that the parent was negligent and/or just stupid and had a gun that they did not secure with the safety lock, so how are you going to Legislate against Individual Stupidity? You cannot.

No, you're right. You can legislate against every stupid person with the $ having some sacred right to buy a gun though. You can't operate a potentially lethal weapon like a car without training and a license earned by demonstrating you can see, you can drive capably and that you know the safety regulations.
Not just slapping down the cash and purchasing a lethal weapon. And the stupid ones are the best case scenario.

 

[toobfreak]

Wait..it's not tubs..it's WATER.
Ban water! You fucking monsters! Think of the children!

Girl, four, accidentally drowned her two-year-old brother in a few inches of water after turning on bath taps | Daily Mail Online

The picture emerges: the new problem isn't the guns after all, it is the new generation our liberals have created that don't hesitate for a second to shoot their teacher for a homework assignment, shoot their brother for a video game, or drown their baby brother for crying.

GOOD JOB LEFT!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

US boy, 9, 'kills sister over video game'

Only in America.

A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi has died after allegedly being shot by her nine-year-old brother over a video game, police say.

They said the boy grabbed a gun on Saturday afternoon after his sister would not give up the controller.

He allegedly shot her from behind, and the bullet entered her brain.

A local sheriff announced on Sunday that the teen had died of her injuries in a Memphis hospital. It was unclear how the boy obtained the gun.

It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face.

"He's just nine," Monroe County Sheriff Cecil Cantrell told the Clarion Ledger.

"I assume he's seen this on video games or TV. I don't know if he knew exactly what this would do. I can't answer that. I do know it's a tragedy."

Every time people are like "This is unbelievable", how can it be, it happens all the time.

Will the right come out and say it's not the gun's fault? That without this gun this kid would just have used a chair and put it through her brain?

Ok I’ll be the first righty, did these children live alone?
Why did parents leave gun unsecured?
It’s a bad thing either way, but I put blame on the parents.


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"It’s a bad thing either way, but I put blame on the parents."

Yes the parents to blame and not the gun, a gun is an inanimate object that is perfectly safe in the hand of a responsible person with basic common sense that if the gun is not to be in use then the safety lock should be put on. You cannot Legislate to protect against Stupidity and you cannot Legislate to force Basic Common Sense.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Something tells me the boy was not exercising his freedom, that he was not free to shoot his sister. Not only did the law not allow it, but neither did his parents.

but being a true leftist ass licker tommy would lie and post that he does

To say that one exercises his "freedom" by killing someone else with a gun is to imply that gun advocates want the "freedom" to kill.

Pay close attention to what the lefties say. They're sneaky.

Still pushing the "I can't figure out what the title of the thread means" lark?

yeah everyone knows what it means

it means its a fucking lie ya ass licker

 

[sealybobo]

Read the TOP LMDAO, and the idiot who let their kid get a hold of a gun is probably a leftist parasite who owned the gun.

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Then he wasn’t a leftist.

Same way you won’t claim all the Christians who murder. You say they aren’t real Christians. Well then he’s not a lefty if he had a gun.
We know nick Cruz and the black shooters were republicans

We will accept the nut who shot the gop softball game. He was one of ours. Notice he missed?

 

[jknowgood]

I blame liberalism. Example, Chelsea Clinton said she quit going to a Baptist church. Because of their stance on abortion at age 6. So liberal parents taught a 6 year old that it is okay to kill her baby out of convenience? That is true hatred, no wonder our children are killing each other. I'd also say they started teaching her that younger at age six.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Wait..it's not tubs..it's WATER.
Ban water! You fucking monsters! Think of the children!

Girl, four, accidentally drowned her two-year-old brother in a few inches of water after turning on bath taps | Daily Mail Online

The picture emerges: the new problem isn't the guns after all, it is the new generation our liberals have created that don't hesitate for a second to shoot their teacher for a homework assignment, shoot their brother for a video game, or drown their baby brother for crying.

GOOD JOB LEFT!

Exactly the Leftists have formented in sections of Western Society a total disregard for Personal Responsibility and also Self Discipline, a child taught to have Self Discipline would not resort to violence over something as trivial as a video game or something as human and natural as their baby brother and/or baby sister crying.

 

[Windparadox]

We saw the CNN townhall where people like you screamed out to ban all semi automatic weapons....and that would include revolvers.You guys have no pragmatic solutions because everything you devise targets law abiding gun owners, the ones who are not using guns for crime or murder. And then, your political party, the democrats, keep letting violent gun offenders...some with multiple felony convictions, out of jail where they then go on to commit murder...We don't trust you, we don't take you seriously ....you target law abiding people, and let violent criminals out of jail.

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What you lack in accuracy, you more than make up for in meaningless rhetoric. I represent only one person; ME. I consider both political parties as absolutely corrupted, criminal organizations. My political views, at best, are eclectic and far, far removed the mindless dichotomy you seem to live in. As a gun owner and a hunter, I support common sense legal restrictions to gun ownership. Maybe I'm alone but you are so partisan on this issue, you can't see beyond it. Alls more the pity I suppose.
`

 

[sealybobo]

Wow!

You refuse to acknowledge the failure of the parent and blame everyone else!

It is amazing how you just toss everyone into the same pot as the parent!

Why was the gun in the house?

Because the person passed the State requirements to own the firearm.

Why was the kid able to obtain the firearm to kill their sister?

The failure of the parent to secure the firearm properly to make sure that their son was not able to get to it without their knowledge!

Now explain to the good board how it is the NRA fault for the parent failure?

I am not part of the NRA but I will be damn if I will ever agree with those like you that put the blame on others for the failure of one or two people!

As a parent it is your job to secure the firearm and if you fail to do so then you are responsible for what your child has done with your firearm along with them!

Not me, not the NRA and not gun owners across this country but you are responsible for securing your firearm and if you do own any my advice to you is to sell them because if you fail to secure your firearm you will blame society and not yourself for your failure in life!

Why was the gun in the house?
Exactly.

^^^^

To quote Bruce:

"Because the person passed the State requirements to own the firearm."

Apparently, there's the problem.

The only problem is that the parent was negligent and/or just stupid and had a gun that they did not secure with the safety lock, so how are you going to Legislate against Individual Stupidity? You cannot.

No, you're right. You can legislate against every stupid person with the $ having some sacred right to buy a gun though. You can't operate a potentially lethal weapon like a car without training and a license earned by demonstrating you can see, you can drive capably and that you know the safety regulations.
Not just slapping down the cash and purchasing a lethal weapon. And the stupid ones are the best case scenario.

Why can’t we get the parents same way we ticket people who don’t wear seatbelts? Now everyone wears a seatbelt.

How does a child have access to guns?

I’m not worried about the family I’m worried about the rest of us