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Interstate competition is not as easy as writing a law
Most of the impediments right now are being imposed by states which establish strict rules and regulations to sell insurance in their state
Secondly, selling health insurance is not as easy as setting up a website that says "Cheap Insurance"
You must set up networks with doctors and pharmacies in EVERY state. Not an easy thing to do
Well, nobody will spend TWO BILLION DOLLARS on a website like your First Lady's pal charged us. Nobody said this will be easy or the lazy democrats would have done it long ago. The industry knows how to adapt...this is the beginning of the end of government trying to pick one-size-fits-all. And it's about time destructive behavior is addressed in insurance rates. A yearly physical to set premium and deductible rate is coming...if you're obese or drink like a fish, you're going to pay more.
Of course the Republicans will do better. They have had seven years to develop a plan that is better than Obamacare
If Obamacare is such a disaster why can't they deliver a plan that:
1. Covers pre-existing conditions
2. Is affordable
3. Covers those who have low incomes
4. Eliminates the fallback of emergency rooms as healthcare providers for those without insurance
Ball is in Republicans court once they repeal Obamacare. It would be nice to know their plans before they pull the plug wouldn't it?
Very trueInterstate competition is not as easy as writing a law
Most of the impediments right now are being imposed by states which establish strict rules and regulations to sell insurance in their state
Secondly, selling health insurance is not as easy as setting up a website that says "Cheap Insurance"
You must set up networks with doctors and pharmacies in EVERY state. Not an easy thing to do
Well, nobody will spend TWO BILLION DOLLARS on a website like your First Lady's pal charged us. Nobody said this will be easy or the lazy democrats would have done it long ago. The industry knows how to adapt...this is the beginning of the end of government trying to pick one-size-fits-all. And it's about time destructive behavior is addressed in insurance rates. A yearly physical to set premium and deductible rate is coming...if you're obese or drink like a fish, you're going to pay more.
Of course the Republicans will do better. They have had seven years to develop a plan that is better than Obamacare
If Obamacare is such a disaster why can't they deliver a plan that:
1. Covers pre-existing conditions
2. Is affordable
3. Covers those who have low incomes
4. Eliminates the fallback of emergency rooms as healthcare providers for those without insurance
Ball is in Republicans court once they repeal Obamacare. It would be nice to know their plans before they pull the plug wouldn't it?
Asked and answered. Expecting a for-profit insurance company to give affordable insurance to somebody already in need of expensive care is folly....they won't do it. It's like trying to insure a ride at an amusement park that regularly throws riders to their deaths....crazy talk. Rubio is the man who wrote out the provision that Sam pays back the insurers for loses....that was the end of the line for Barry-Care.
Very true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Very true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
Barry-Care is scrapping itself...we have no choice but to accept the challenge.
Yeah, that's where it really hit the fan.i hear the biggest change was from northern rust belt states, labor unions voted against clinton in droves2. And here's another thing: Chris Matthews (yes, I know) made an interesting point yesterday: You know those concerts with the music superstars for Hillary, like Beyonce and the rest? He wondered if those things drove home the point above, by having them all onstage together in "The Winner's Club" -- all these rich, successful people hugging each other. Maybe stuff like that was a net negative.
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I've been seeing some pretty interesting analysis on this (of course, the analysis is always easier AFTER the fact).
1. If you had asked the average person, say, 5 or 10 years ago, which party would be closer to being populist and which was closer to being for The Big Guy, I think it's pretty clear that most would have said the Dems were closer to being populist. But somehow the GOP beat the Dems to the punch, and the Dems made it easier by running Hillary. Stunning. And reading Dems sites, they're sure as hell stunned, too.
2. And here's another thing: Chris Matthews (yes, I know) made an interesting point yesterday: You know those concerts with the music superstars for Hillary, like Beyonce and the rest? He wondered if those things drove home the point above, by having them all onstage together in "The Winner's Club" -- all these rich, successful people hugging each other. Maybe stuff like that was a net negative.
3. Finally, now that the dust has settled a bit, I think overall half of us just didn't understand the rage that it took to vote for Trump. Enough rage to ignore his myriad faults and weaknesses and behaviors and words and everything else. THAT is a LOT of rage right there. Obama was not able to deliver on the promises he made overall, and a lot of faith was placed in him. Let's see how Trump responds.
My two cents, worth every penny.
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I've been seeing some pretty interesting analysis on this (of course, the analysis is always easier AFTER the fact).
1. If you had asked the average person, say, 5 or 10 years ago, which party would be closer to being populist and which was closer to being for The Big Guy, I think it's pretty clear that most would have said the Dems were closer to being populist. But somehow the GOP beat the Dems to the punch, and the Dems made it easier by running Hillary. Stunning. And reading Dems sites, they're sure as hell stunned, too.
2. And here's another thing: Chris Matthews (yes, I know) made an interesting point yesterday: You know those concerts with the music superstars for Hillary, like Beyonce and the rest? He wondered if those things drove home the point above, by having them all onstage together in "The Winner's Club" -- all these rich, successful people hugging each other. Maybe stuff like that was a net negative.
3. Finally, now that the dust has settled a bit, I think overall half of us just didn't understand the rage that it took to vote for Trump. Enough rage to ignore his myriad faults and weaknesses and behaviors and words and everything else. THAT is a LOT of rage right there. Obama was not able to deliver on the promises he made overall, and a lot of faith was placed in him. Let's see how Trump responds.
My two cents, worth every penny.
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No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolVery true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolVery true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
How to Cancel an ObamaCare Plan? - Obamacare Facts
No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolVery true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
How to Cancel an ObamaCare Plan? - Obamacare Facts
you eliminate frivolous lawsuits first of all, you put caps on how large lawsuit can get.No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolVery true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
How to Cancel an ObamaCare Plan? - Obamacare Facts
Simple question
How do you get insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions?
you eliminate frivolous lawsuits first of all, you put caps on how large lawsuit can get.No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolVery true
Why would an insurance company looking to make a profit want to cover sick people.....that is why we need Government involvement
Same reason we needed Medicare....who wants to insure old people?
Difference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
How to Cancel an ObamaCare Plan? - Obamacare Facts
Simple question
How do you get insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions?
But getting everyone involved is not right, and forcing everyone into the program is evil.
Thank God we don't have to have mandatory insurance anymore, or pay a fine if we don't.
The fact remains insurance will no longer be mandatory, people all over the country are canceling their enrollment in the exchanges for good reason. No one should be forced into buying insurance That's just legalized extortion. Factyou eliminate frivolous lawsuits first of all, you put caps on how large lawsuit can get.No one wants to get rid of all of Obamacare, but the making it mandatory must be stopped. There are millions and millions of Americans that want nothing to do with fucking obamacare and yet these fuckers want to shove obamacare down our throats. For it to be fair it has to be a choice making people sign up for it is a bunch of bullshit. LolDifference is we paid into Medicare since the 60's and it wouldn't be costing anything if those funds were still in the "lockbox" instead of swiped to pay down deficits. I'm sure you're aware Barry-Care was never intended to work. It was supposed to fail so badly we'd get tricked into single-payer and end up like Canuckistan with year-long waits for surgery and death-panels who decide to gets care and who doesn't.
Republicans are in control now
It is their responsibility to fix the problem
They fought Obamacare from the beginning, yet never offered a better alternative
Now, if they want to scrap Obamacare......they have that responsibility
How to Cancel an ObamaCare Plan? - Obamacare Facts
Simple question
How do you get insurance companies to insure those with pre-existing conditions?
But getting everyone involved is not right, and forcing everyone into the program is evil.
Thank God we don't have to have mandatory insurance anymore, or pay a fine if we don't.
Insurance companies will laugh at you
Tort reform is no panacea. States that have strict limits do not see significant reductions in rates
It was trade.
I said a long time ago and many times that when Bill Clinton supported NAFTA, he was acting like a Republican. In fact he had more Republican votes than Democrats for the treaty.
Ross Perot got an amazing 19% of the vote running almost wholly against NAFTA and secondarily against the Washington establishment of both parties.
Most Democratic opposition to so called free trade was/is from the liberal wing of the party and from labor.
Trump took that issue away from the Democrats, mainly because Hillary Clinton was tagged with being pro free trade,
IOW, she was acting like a Republican on trade, just like her husband.
Trump took one of the GOP's weakest positions, free trade, tossed it out of the party's agenda, and replaced it with the very liberal, very pro-union protectionist position.
IOW, Trump shifted the entire GOP platform to the LEFT, which of course, ironically, is what most conservatives insist has been the GOP's worst fault, i.e., being too moderate or liberal.
But the key to what Trump did was that in the process, he didn't try to move anything else to the left in the GOP's platform, in fact, he was happy to go as rightwing as can be to keep those factions of the party on board.
Michigan, a key state:
In 2012, Romney lost the union household vote by 33 points.
In 2016, Trump lost the union household vote by 13 points.
That is trade, that is protectionism, that is jobs going overseas...
...that is Trump getting to the LEFT of Hillary Clinton on the issue.
No, its Trump getting on the side of the American people. Something very foreign to you libs.
So you agree that union people are more 'American' than anti-labor people.
Remember Bernie? The so-called Socialist Bernie, way to the left of Hillary Clinton?
He and Trump AGREE on trade, and jobs going overseas. Both of them to the LEFT of Hillary Clinton, who has effectively been a Republican on trade.
They are not going to drop the health insurance fully they are just gonna get rid of the dumbass mandatory part of it. Mandatory insurance is legalized extortion… FactThose protesters are snowflakes, they will get over it.I've been seeing some pretty interesting analysis on this (of course, the analysis is always easier AFTER the fact).
1. If you had asked the average person, say, 5 or 10 years ago, which party would be closer to being populist and which was closer to being for The Big Guy, I think it's pretty clear that most would have said the Dems were closer to being populist. But somehow the GOP beat the Dems to the punch, and the Dems made it easier by running Hillary. Stunning. And reading Dems sites, they're sure as hell stunned, too.
2. And here's another thing: Chris Matthews (yes, I know) made an interesting point yesterday: You know those concerts with the music superstars for Hillary, like Beyonce and the rest? He wondered if those things drove home the point above, by having them all onstage together in "The Winner's Club" -- all these rich, successful people hugging each other. Maybe stuff like that was a net negative.
3. Finally, now that the dust has settled a bit, I think overall half of us just didn't understand the rage that it took to vote for Trump. Enough rage to ignore his myriad faults and weaknesses and behaviors and words and everything else. THAT is a LOT of rage right there. Obama was not able to deliver on the promises he made overall, and a lot of faith was placed in him. Let's see how Trump responds.
My two cents, worth every penny.
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Problem for Trump is that along with that rage he harnessed, he also created a lot of rage against him
We saw that in yesterdays protests
I'm afraid it is just the beginning
Wait till Republicans drop people from health insurance. wait until Trump puts boots on the ground
Then you will see real protests
OK Republicans drop that mandatory part of health insurance
How are you going to get insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions?
How are you going to handle people coming to emergency rooms with serious problems?
Ball is in your court Republicans. You just don't get to bitch and complain anymore...you are the ones expected to provide solutions
How are the actual health plans structured?They are not going to drop the health insurance fully they are just gonna get rid of the dumbass mandatory part of it. Mandatory insurance is legalized extortion… FactThose protesters are snowflakes, they will get over it.Problem for Trump is that along with that rage he harnessed, he also created a lot of rage against him
We saw that in yesterdays protests
I'm afraid it is just the beginning
Wait till Republicans drop people from health insurance. wait until Trump puts boots on the ground
Then you will see real protests
OK Republicans drop that mandatory part of health insurance
How are you going to get insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions?
How are you going to handle people coming to emergency rooms with serious problems?
Ball is in your court Republicans. You just don't get to bitch and complain anymore...you are the ones expected to provide solutions
The solution is easy:
pass a one page bill with the following provisions
1. insurance companies can compete across state lines
2. no policy can include a lifetime maximum payment
3. no one with a pre-existing condition can be refused insurance
4. block grant Medicaid funds to the states with the requirement that they be used to cover the uninsured who are UNABLE to afford insurance.
