Abortion clinic owner's payback to protesters

[Jughead]

As a man of faith, I am strictly pro-Life, however I disagree with the tactics used by the protestors here. Harassing family members in my opinion is crossing the line.

I agree with peaceful protesting outside the clinic, and distributing flyers is fine as well. I also don't have a problem with getting court orders to shut down the clinic by using whatever legal means available (petitions, change in zoning laws, rent increases ...etc).

 

[Katzndogz]

Union members harass family members all the time. They got a 14 year old boy home alone and terrified him.

 

[Noomi]

it does not happen. one can have an induced labor or emergency c-section after 24 weeks.

abortion in the third trimester is an American invention. It's a barbaric procedure and extremely dangerous to the mother - and lasts 3 days!!!
Why would you want to have a barbaric dangerous procedure which murders a viable baby to be performed instead of the 40 minutes operation under anesthesia - c-section which is quick, safe and results in two alive individuals?

Abortion is illegal in Ireland, but it doesn't stop thousands of Irish women from getting on a boat to England to terminate their pregnancies.

Not after 24 weeks. And it is severely restricted even n the UK - there has to be a panel of two physicians to approve it.

Restricted after 24 weeks here, too, and two doctors need to sign off on the order for the abortion. Women can still have them, though.

 

[Vox]

Abortion is illegal in Ireland, but it doesn't stop thousands of Irish women from getting on a boat to England to terminate their pregnancies.

Not after 24 weeks. And it is severely restricted even n the UK - there has to be a panel of two physicians to approve it.

Restricted after 24 weeks here, too, and two doctors need to sign off on the order for the abortion. Women can still have them, though.

not en masse like it is here.

tell me this - you did not know that the late term abortion is a procedure which takes 3 days, didn't you?
So why on earth would you go and risk your life ( literally, it involves a possibility of some very grave complications and you are NOT in the hospital for that time, not even in a clinic), if you can have a much faster and safer procedure in the hospital and which result is not that grim and dangerous?
Even if you don't want the baby - you can leave her in the hospital for adoption, you don't even have to see the baby after she is being born.

 

[Noomi]

Depends what method is use. Not every late abortion takes three days.

 

[Vox]

Depends what method is use. Not every late abortion takes three days.

Every. That is why ( partially ) it is forbidden everywhere else in the word - it is extremely dangerous and grim procedure. That is why even here, where it was invented, it is now performed only by 3 or 4 "doctors" for the 320 million nation. And those performing it are not doctors - those are greedy butchers.

Everywhere else it is induced labor in the hospital - the less expensive method or emergency c-section - a more expensive method.

 

[Noomi]

Depends what method is use. Not every late abortion takes three days.

Every. That is why ( partially ) it is forbidden everywhere else in the word - it is extremely dangerous and grim procedure. That is why even here, where it was invented, it is now performed only by 3 or 4 "doctors" for the 320 million nation. And those performing it are not doctors - those are greedy butchers.

Everywhere else it is induced labor in the hospital - the less expensive method or emergency c-section - a more expensive method.

Not every woman can have a natural birth or even a C section. Sometimes there is something wrong with the fetus and it requires a late abortion.

 

[Vox]

Depends what method is use. Not every late abortion takes three days.

Every. That is why ( partially ) it is forbidden everywhere else in the word - it is extremely dangerous and grim procedure. That is why even here, where it was invented, it is now performed only by 3 or 4 "doctors" for the 320 million nation. And those performing it are not doctors - those are greedy butchers.

Everywhere else it is induced labor in the hospital - the less expensive method or emergency c-section - a more expensive method.

Not every woman can have a natural birth or even a C section. Sometimes there is something wrong with the fetus and it requires a late abortion.

are you an idiot?

so you are telling that a natural birth is what not every woman can have? but she can have a butchery procedure protracted for 3 days without proper medical care?

EVERY woman can have a c-section.
If there is something wrong with a baby the c-section is a way to go and it is how it is done everywhere in the world.

why do you insist on a butchery hanger method instead of a civilized XXI century one?
Third trimester abortion is not ever being performed anywhere else in the world except by 3 or 4 butchers in the US. the baby killer was eliminated by a GSW and the last one is Gosnell - also eliminated from the society.

 

[Casjah]

I'm thinking of eclampsia which can only be cured by delivery) that cannot wait for days or even hours for a panel to make a decision. It should be made by the woman and her OB.

Nobody performs abortion for eclampsia. It is DELIVERY, by c-section preferably,and a baby is alive and well. It is a late term complication and is relatively often encountered. It is never a reason for an abortion.
Eclampsia and preeclaampsia are third trimester complications of pregnancy.

Actually, preeclampsia/eclampsia can begin in the second trimester before the baby is viable. And i certainly don't claim that abortion is always necessary in those cases, but if the mother's life is endangered and the baby's lungs have not yet matured enough to be viable, delivery becomes necessary. of course it's semantics after this which I'm not really interested in. Point is, there are instances when abortion can be medically necessary.

 

[koshergrl]

I have never heard of anyone getting an abortion in the second trimester because of pre eclampsia. In fact, I've never heard of anyone ever being treated via abortion for eclampsia. I call bullshit.

 

[koshergrl]

Just another ridiculous lie to justify killing babies.

 

[Casjah]

The treatment for eclampsia is delivery even if the baby is not viable. Call it what ever you'd like-

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, it's not abortion moron. That's called "birth".

 

[Vox]

The treatment for eclampsia is delivery even if the baby is not viable. Call it what ever you'd like-

it does not happen when the baby is not viable.

Preeclampsia and eclampsia are strictly third trimester complications

 

[Vox]

I have never heard of anyone getting an abortion in the second trimester because of pre eclampsia. In fact, I've never heard of anyone ever being treated via abortion for eclampsia. I call bullshit.

it does not happen in the second trimester

 

[koshergrl]

Of course it doesn't.

 

[Vox]

I'm thinking of eclampsia which can only be cured by delivery) that cannot wait for days or even hours for a panel to make a decision. It should be made by the woman and her OB.

Nobody performs abortion for eclampsia. It is DELIVERY, by c-section preferably,and a baby is alive and well. It is a late term complication and is relatively often encountered. It is never a reason for an abortion.
Eclampsia and preeclaampsia are third trimester complications of pregnancy.

Actually, preeclampsia/eclampsia can begin in the second trimester before the baby is viable. And i certainly don't claim that abortion is always necessary in those cases, but if the mother's life is endangered and the baby's lungs have not yet matured enough to be viable, delivery becomes necessary. of course it's semantics after this which I'm not really interested in. Point is, there are instances when abortion can be medically necessary.

It is never ecclampsia in the second trimester.
Some signs of the potential preeclampsia might be present at the end of second trimester and that is exactly when the baby starts being viable. Since preeclampsia never escalates immediately to ecclampsia, pregnancy is usually supported until 30-32 weeks( or as long as possible) and then if the symptoms do not subside - emergency c-section is being performed.

The complication is connected to the microcirculation in the placenta and is never occurring before 22-24 weeks.

Not to even mention the abortion is never even an option considered in a situation of preecclamptic patient.

 

[Beachboy]

Nobody performs abortion for eclampsia. It is DELIVERY, by c-section preferably,and a baby is alive and well. It is a late term complication and is relatively often encountered. It is never a reason for an abortion.
Eclampsia and preeclaampsia are third trimester complications of pregnancy.

Actually, preeclampsia/eclampsia can begin in the second trimester before the baby is viable. And i certainly don't claim that abortion is always necessary in those cases, but if the mother's life is endangered and the baby's lungs have not yet matured enough to be viable, delivery becomes necessary. of course it's semantics after this which I'm not really interested in. Point is, there are instances when abortion can be medically necessary.

It is never ecclampsia in the second trimester.
Some signs of the potential preeclampsia might be present at the end of second trimester and that is exactly when the baby starts being viable. Since preeclampsia never escalates immediately to ecclampsia, pregnancy is usually supported until 30-32 weeks( or as long as possible) and then if the symptoms do not subside - emergency c-section is being performed.

The complication is connected to the microcirculation in the placenta and is never occurring before 22-24 weeks.

Not to even mention the abortion is never even an option considered in a situation of preecclamptic patient.

It is for reasons like these postings that I have Kosher Girl on "ignore." An action you may wish to consider, Vox.

Let's do this. Let's give every woman in the United States the right to choose abortion for herself, and let people like Kosher Girl opt out. Wait! Hold it!

That is the law as written in Roe vs. Wade!

By the way, Kosher Girl is not Kosher.

Just because someone claims they are Kosher, does
not mean they are. Kosher Girl is a fake, her goal
is to make Jews look bad with her insane posts.
I have no time for phonies. Do you?​

 

[R.C. Christian]

They should take their harassment to it's highest level possible. Enablers of baby killers are complicit. That includes the nurses etc.

 

[koshergrl]

Actually, preeclampsia/eclampsia can begin in the second trimester before the baby is viable. And i certainly don't claim that abortion is always necessary in those cases, but if the mother's life is endangered and the baby's lungs have not yet matured enough to be viable, delivery becomes necessary. of course it's semantics after this which I'm not really interested in. Point is, there are instances when abortion can be medically necessary.

It is never ecclampsia in the second trimester.
Some signs of the potential preeclampsia might be present at the end of second trimester and that is exactly when the baby starts being viable. Since preeclampsia never escalates immediately to ecclampsia, pregnancy is usually supported until 30-32 weeks( or as long as possible) and then if the symptoms do not subside - emergency c-section is being performed.

The complication is connected to the microcirculation in the placenta and is never occurring before 22-24 weeks.

Not to even mention the abortion is never even an option considered in a situation of preecclamptic patient.

It is for reasons like these postings that I have Kosher Girl on "ignore." An action you may wish to consider, Vox.

Let's do this. Let's give every woman in the United States the right to choose abortion for herself, and let people like Kosher Girl opt out. Wait! Hold it!

That is the law as written in Roe vs. Wade!

By the way, Kosher Girl is not Kosher.

Just because someone claims they are Kosher, does
not mean they are. Kosher Girl is a fake, her goal
is to make Jews look bad with her insane posts.

I have no time for phonies. Do you?​

Which post are you talking about, nitwit? Because the one you quoted wasn't me.

I've never claimed to be Jewish, lol. Everybody here knows I'm Southern Baptist.