An interesting development in the "pardon" charade...

Lol, more dreaming in alice in wonderland, full of wild speculation and other assorted loonbat tales.


Well, WHO could possibly argue with the well-researched above assertion....(go back to bed) LOL


There was nothing substantive in your drool fest, just wild fantasy island stuff. The comedy is great though. Please don't stop. You shold write comedy books for children. Your writing prose is excellent for that.
 
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Get help girl.....


As a 70 year old man.......I find your perception....."amazing"...........LOL

Found your photo....I suppose you could pass for a smelly old man......



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Some of us have speculated that the Arpaio pardon was a "silent" assurance to the long list of Trump former and current staff that if they were ever indicted for their misdeeds, they need NOT worry since Trump could always pardon them also.

Perhaps foreseeing this underhanded plan of Trump to further obstruct the course of justice (to save his own sorry orange hide), Mueller, as the clever prosecutor that he is, is now teaming up with New York state's AG to possibly eventually bring charges against these "people of interest" in STATE courts; probably prompting the convening of yet another grand jury in NY..

Now, unbeknownst to many of us, a president CANNOT pardon a conviction that was ruled in a state's court....only federal courts.

This may then place the fear right back on the spines of those witnesses who will be called to testify under oath, that the pardon option may no longer apply as a "get out of jail free" card...

Interesting.
If I were Trump, and it looked like congress was seriously about to impeach, I would pardon every non-violent incarcerated swinging dick from Portland Maine to San Diego. :lol:
 
The Congress should make it very clear to Trump. Issue pardons and we go straight to impeachment hearings based on obstruction of justice. That would cut out that foolishness.
 
So what you are saying anything they can do to get Trump is just fine. Perhaps you haven't heard, but I guarantee that all the people called have by now, their testimony at the grand jury can be I refuse to answer that question. The only way to compel testimony is through immunity. Now, thanks to you and Mueller, that is off the table since every state would have to grant immunity as well as the Feds.

Every underhanded trick you come up with sitting there fantasizing about Trump going just makes it more unlikely.

No, what he's saying is there is something called " the rule of law". Even the president is not above it.
Wrong. He's admitting that Mewler and his douche bag defenders don't give a damn about the rule of law. They want to take down anyone in the Trump administration they can, and they don't care if they have to wipe their ass on the Constitution to do it.

Trump and his minions are the ones wiping their asses on the Constitution. Daily. No blind trusts, selling their tacky goods from the White House, getting gifts worth millions from foreign governments, failing to divest their holdings.

Deplorable.
None of that is occurring. Nothing in the Constitution requires the President to put his holdings into a blind trust or divest himself from his holdings.

However, when Obama made his own immigration laws, that was a clear violation of the Constitution.

You're just another lying left-wing cockroach.

The Emollients Clause specifically precludes Trump from profiting from foreign governments, so yes, he is in violation. He's also hiring family in violation of the Nepotism Act, using Harvey to promote his new merchandise in every press appearance related to the hurricane, and skimming money from the Secret service by "vacationing" at one of his golf resorts nearly every weekend since his inauguration.

You idiot Trumpanzees will overlook his lies, and his blatant profiting from the Presidency, and continue to call for Clinton to be prosecuted.

Deplorable.
 
There was nothing substantive in your drool fest, just wild fantasy island stuff.


Fine......then there's NO PROBLEM for the Trumpster's team of scammers.....
So, what the fuck are you worried about? LOL
 
It's not possible.....put your chubs away boys. it's the presidents call.
What's the president's call? A pardon for Federal offences? Yup! He can't pardon for State offences.

Trumpy thinks he can pardon his way out of treason. He can't. And New York's AG isn't the least bit afraid of him, already prosecuting him for his scam Trump University and getting a large settlement.

Brilliant move from Mueller.
 
So what you are saying anything they can do to get Trump is just fine. Perhaps you haven't heard, but I guarantee that all the people called have by now, their testimony at the grand jury can be I refuse to answer that question. The only way to compel testimony is through immunity. Now, thanks to you and Mueller, that is off the table since every state would have to grant immunity as well as the Feds.

Every underhanded trick you come up with sitting there fantasizing about Trump going just makes it more unlikely.

No, what he's saying is there is something called " the rule of law". Even the president is not above it.
Wrong. He's admitting that Mewler and his douche bag defenders don't give a damn about the rule of law. They want to take down anyone in the Trump administration they can, and they don't care if they have to wipe their ass on the Constitution to do it.

Trump and his minions are the ones wiping their asses on the Constitution. Daily. No blind trusts, selling their tacky goods from the White House, getting gifts worth millions from foreign governments, failing to divest their holdings.

Deplorable.
None of that is occurring. Nothing in the Constitution requires the President to put his holdings into a blind trust or divest himself from his holdings.

However, when Obama made his own immigration laws, that was a clear violation of the Constitution.

You're just another lying left-wing cockroach.

The Emollients Clause specifically precludes Trump from profiting from foreign governments, so yes, he is in violation. He's also hiring family in violation of the Nepotism Act, using Harvey to promote his new merchandise in every press appearance related to the hurricane, and skimming money from the Secret service by "vacationing" at one of his golf resorts nearly every weekend since his inauguration.

You idiot Trumpanzees will overlook his lies, and his blatant profiting from the Presidency, and continue to call for Clinton to be prosecuted.

Deplorable.

Trumps been on Forbes 400 for 3 decades. The Presidency is losing him opportunities to expand Trump Org
 
One of the first acts in the Jimmy Carter administration was to proclaim a gigantic sweeping pardon for every draft dodger and every coward who renounced his citizenship and fled to Canada to avoid the draft. I doubt if i was legal but it was popular.
 
The Congress should make it very clear to Trump. Issue pardons and we go straight to impeachment hearings based on obstruction of justice. That would cut out that foolishness.

Well the danger for Trump doing this, once he pardons someone, they can no longer plead the 5th under direct testimony. They have to answer the questions. So that may be a little deterent, but I think he's too stupid to realise that. And he certainly can't pardon himself.
 
It will be fun to watch when any prosecution of "Russia Russia Russia" leads directly and immediately back to the DNC, Hillary, John "Wetwork Pedo" Podesta and Seth Rich who was murdered for downloading the DNC emails and delivering them to Wikileaks
 
" Washington CNN Department special counsel Robert Mueller is teaming up with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to investigate Paul Manafort and his financial transactions, several people familiar with the matter told Politico. Since the US president is unable to pardon state crimes, the collaboration could also be seen as an effort to pressure Manafort to cooperate in the broader Russia investigation under Mueller, Politico reported. CNN has not independently confirmed the report. The move, which Politico reported on Wednesday night, is another indication that Mueller is ramping up pressure on Manafort, who served as the former chairman of President Donald Trump's campaign. Manafort has not been accused of any wrongdoing, but he is seen as a central figure in Mueller's investigation into Russia's 2016 election meddling."
Report: Mueller, New York AG to work together on Manafort - CNNPolitics

Paul Manafort was recently forced by the DOJ to register as a Foreign agent. He was working for the Russians during the 2012-2014 era and receiving 17 MILLION from them to advise on U.S./Ukraine policies.

"WASHINGTON -- President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for political consulting work he did for a Ukrainian political party, acknowledging that he coached party members on how to interact with U.S. government officials. Manafort says in a Justice Department filing Tuesday that his firm, DMP International, received more than $17 million from the Party of Regions, the former pro-Russian ruling party in Ukraine, for consulting work from 2012 through 2014. Manafort is the second member of the Trump campaign to register as a foreign agent. In March, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn registered with the Justice Department for work his consulting firm performed for a Turkish businessman that he said could have aided the Turkish government. Both registrations came after the work had been completed."
Paul Manafort retroactively registers with Justice Dept. as foreign agent

Then this clause showed up in the Republican party platform in July 2016 at the RNC convention--or around the same time that Comey testified that U.S. Intelligence started the investigation into the Trump team. But Trump and team were being watched prior to that by the U.K and other foreign intelligence.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics

In July of this year, Paul Manafort's home was raided--and his computer and files were siezed.

Washington (CNN) FBI agents raided a home of President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort last month, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. The agents seized materials in Manafort's home as part of the ongoing Russia investigation led by Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the source said.
FBI raided Paul Manafort home as part of Russia probe - CNNPolitics

The special Grand Jury has also subpoened Paul Manforts former attorney.
Special counsel subpoenas Manafort's former attorney and spokesman - CNNPolitics

It makes sense because Trump has repeatedly stated he would pardon Michael Flynn and other who may be involved in this Russian investigation. So they have felt safe from any consequences. So it's going to be Paul Manafort that will be the squealer, because Trump cannot pardon him for State crimes. This is a very clever manuver by Robert Mueller.

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You're own article points out it was a political party in the Ukraine he worked for. Do you need a map of Eastern Europe?
A Russian - backed political party.

What does it matter if they were pro-Russian? Half their country is Russian. It is still a Ukrainian party, you don't get to swap out Russia for Ukraine when it is convenient for you.

Dems are all pro-Marxist and pro-communist, should we stop calling them an American political party and just call them "Russians"?
 
No, what he's saying is there is something called " the rule of law". Even the president is not above it.
Wrong. He's admitting that Mewler and his douche bag defenders don't give a damn about the rule of law. They want to take down anyone in the Trump administration they can, and they don't care if they have to wipe their ass on the Constitution to do it.

Trump and his minions are the ones wiping their asses on the Constitution. Daily. No blind trusts, selling their tacky goods from the White House, getting gifts worth millions from foreign governments, failing to divest their holdings.

Deplorable.
None of that is occurring. Nothing in the Constitution requires the President to put his holdings into a blind trust or divest himself from his holdings.

However, when Obama made his own immigration laws, that was a clear violation of the Constitution.

You're just another lying left-wing cockroach.

The Emollients Clause specifically precludes Trump from profiting from foreign governments, so yes, he is in violation. He's also hiring family in violation of the Nepotism Act, using Harvey to promote his new merchandise in every press appearance related to the hurricane, and skimming money from the Secret service by "vacationing" at one of his golf resorts nearly every weekend since his inauguration.

You idiot Trumpanzees will overlook his lies, and his blatant profiting from the Presidency, and continue to call for Clinton to be prosecuted.

Deplorable.

Trumps been on Forbes 400 for 3 decades. The Presidency is losing him opportunities to expand Trump Org

That's a choice Trump made when he decided to run for President. As are his continuing decisions to use his Presidency to promote his resort properties, his merchandise and Ivanka's, and to obtain trade marks in China and Russia.

That stack of empty file folders put on display in regards to handing over his companies to his sons was very symbolic of his Presidency: pretending to do something properly, while actually doing nothing of the kind.
 
The Congress should make it very clear to Trump. Issue pardons and we go straight to impeachment hearings based on obstruction of justice. That would cut out that foolishness.

Well the danger for Trump doing this, once he pardons someone, they can no longer plead the 5th under direct testimony. They have to answer the questions. So that may be a little deterent, but I think he's too stupid to realise that. And he certainly can't pardon himself.

What questions do you think he is going to hide from?
 
Trump destroys the federal witch hunt against Arpaio so the left conspire to launch a state witch hunt to get around the presidents power to pardon victims of left witch hunts, interesting.
 
Trump destroys the federal witch hunt against Arpaio so the left conspire to launch a state witch hunt to get around the presidents power to pardon victims of left witch hunts, interesting.


Don't you just LOVE that chess match while the orange clown is still trying to figure out how to play checkers??? LOL
 

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