Biden unveils latest attempt to kill off gas cars in bid to force all Americans to switch to EVs

[Oddball]

All of the EV posts on my facebook have disappeared.

 

[Oddball]

Cars are faster and get better mpg today.

Faster because they're getting more HP per CID, fuel mileage notwithstanding.

Fact.

A "fact" that would've come about by matter-of-course technological advancement anyway, obviating any State driven force.

 

[pknopp]

Faster because they're getting more HP per CID, fuel mileage notwithstanding.

A "fact" that would've come about by matter-of-course technological advancement anyway, obviating any State driven force.

Manufacturers only care about shareholder value.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have no problem with the government forcing the manufacturers to be responsible.

1. Otherwise manufacturers in other countries will.

2. Manufacturers here will cry and expect bail outs.

3. I'd rather not live with 50 year old technology.

I have no problem with the government forcing the manufacturers to be responsible.

Why is forcing manufacturers to make lighter, more dangerous vehicles "responsible"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cars efficiency has increased.

Technology is awesome!
Stupid government mandates......not so much.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But government should support Israel’s genocide and Ukrainian proxy war.

You get dumber with every post.

Mumbler says what?

 

[Oddball]

Manufacturers only care about shareholder value.

Shareholder value is grown by building products people want.

You can't even deflect and sound like you have the first idea of what you're blabbering about.

 

[pknopp]

I have no problem with the government forcing the manufacturers to be responsible.

Why is forcing manufacturers to make lighter, more dangerous vehicles "responsible"?

I have no obligation to address your bogus positions.

 

[Donald H]

Even so, MPG isn't the only way to measure how much end work you're getting out a unit of fuel.

Only ignorant smug assholes act as though there's only one way to express efficiency.

You've shown that you have a lot of potential if you put your mind into it. That got to the point of American apple pie can be challenged when it's stupidity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have no obligation to address your bogus positions.

I agree, you shouldn't try to defend your silly claims.
You couldn't defend them before, why waste your time failing to defend them now?

Better to just run away.

 

[pknopp]

I agree, you shouldn't try to defend your silly claims.
You couldn't defend them before, why waste your time failing to defend them now?

Better to just run away.

Cars are safer than ever. Educate yourself before commenting.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cars are safer than ever. Educate yourself before commenting.

Would they be even safer if they were 800 lbs heavier?

 

[alang1216]

What a shit show this will be.

Biden unveils latest attempt to kill off gas cars before 2032

The White House told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 mpg out of their cars if they want to stay in business - while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double

www.dailymail.co.uk

Joe Biden has dealt another body blow to America's gas car manufacturers after his stuttering roll out of EV charging points was slammed as 'pathetic'. The Transportation Department told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 miles per gallon out of their cars if they want to stay in business while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double. Friday's edict came just weeks after the EPA slashed the limits on tailpipe emissions as part of the White House pledge to ensure that more than half of all new vehicles sold are electric by 2032.

The latest rules impose average miles per gallon limits across manufacturers' entire product lines, so if they make more electric vehicles they will find it easier to meet the targets. Their passenger cars will have to average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. Pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles will have to average 45 miles rather than the 35.1 miles today. But heavy duty pickup trucks and large vans will have to nearly double their fuel efficiency from 18.8 to 35 miles per gallon. The tough new regulations are designed to save nearly eight billion tons of carbon emissions by the middle of the century and have been welcomed by environmentalists and health campaigners.

'Today's final rule is another important step toward reducing carbon pollution and curbing climate change,' said Harold Wimmer of the American Lung Association. But 25 Red states have filed a lawsuit challenging the new tailpipe rules they fear will destroy jobs. 'The Biden Administration is willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda,' said Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman. 'We just aren't buying it. Demand for EVs continues to fall, and even those who want to buy one can't afford it amid historic inflation.'

The latest rules impose average miles per gallon limits across manufacturers' entire product lines, so if they make more electric vehicles they will find it easier to meet the targets. Their passenger cars will have to average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. Pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles will have to average 45 miles rather than the 35.1 miles today. But heavy-duty pickup trucks and large vans will have to nearly double their fuel efficiency from 18.8 to 35 miles per gallon.

The tough new regulations are designed to save nearly eight billion tons of carbon emissions by the middle of the century and have been welcomed by environmentalists and health campaigners. 'Today's final rule is another important step toward reducing carbon pollution and curbing climate change,' said Harold Wimmer of the American Lung Association. But 25 Red states have filed a lawsuit challenging the new tailpipe rules they fear will destroy jobs. 'The Biden Administration is willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda,' said Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman.

'We just aren't buying it. Demand for EVs continues to fall, and even those who want to buy one can't afford it amid historic inflation.'

'The electric vehicle market is growing, but consumers have enough reservations about the current options and charging infrastructure challenges to limit more significant growth in the short term,' said analyst Jessica Caldwell. Transport secretary Pete Buttigieg defended the new emissions standards. 'Not only will these new standards save Americans money at the pump every time they fill up, they will also decrease harmful pollution and make America less reliant on foreign oil,' he said in a statement.

'These standards will save car owners more than $600 in gasoline costs over the lifetime of their vehicle.'

We can't get shed of the Biden administration fast enough.....Then we really need to get going on gutting the EPA like a fish.

I mean what a fun way to absolutely crush the American economy.

It took a little more than 20 years for the US to transition from horse and carriage to the automobile.

Back in the 1920, a Model T cost about $280...which is about $9K today. What US made electric car costs $9K?

This trend has been going on for decades and every new regulation is feared and ridiculed as the end of transportation as we know it. And then the car manufacturers manage to meet the new regs. I'm guessing these new ones will follow that pattern too.

 

[alang1216]

Would they be even safer if they were 800 lbs heavier?

They would unless they were hit by another car that was 800 lbs heavier.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They would unless they were hit by another car that was 800 lbs heavier.

Are they going to be just as safe as today when they're 800 lbs lighter?

 

[alang1216]

Are they going to be just as safe as today when they're 800 lbs lighter?

They would if they are hit by another car that was 800 lbs lighter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They would if they are hit by another car that was 800 lbs lighter.

Sadly, there are still much heavier cars and trucks out there to collide with
the government mandated lighter, less safe cars.

 

[justoffal]

What a shit show this will be.

Biden unveils latest attempt to kill off gas cars before 2032

The White House told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 mpg out of their cars if they want to stay in business - while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double

www.dailymail.co.uk

Joe Biden has dealt another body blow to America's gas car manufacturers after his stuttering roll out of EV charging points was slammed as 'pathetic'. The Transportation Department told automakers they have eight years to squeeze another 16 miles per gallon out of their cars if they want to stay in business while the fuel efficiency of their trucks will have to double. Friday's edict came just weeks after the EPA slashed the limits on tailpipe emissions as part of the White House pledge to ensure that more than half of all new vehicles sold are electric by 2032.

The latest rules impose average miles per gallon limits across manufacturers' entire product lines, so if they make more electric vehicles they will find it easier to meet the targets. Their passenger cars will have to average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. Pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles will have to average 45 miles rather than the 35.1 miles today. But heavy duty pickup trucks and large vans will have to nearly double their fuel efficiency from 18.8 to 35 miles per gallon. The tough new regulations are designed to save nearly eight billion tons of carbon emissions by the middle of the century and have been welcomed by environmentalists and health campaigners.

'Today's final rule is another important step toward reducing carbon pollution and curbing climate change,' said Harold Wimmer of the American Lung Association. But 25 Red states have filed a lawsuit challenging the new tailpipe rules they fear will destroy jobs. 'The Biden Administration is willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda,' said Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman. 'We just aren't buying it. Demand for EVs continues to fall, and even those who want to buy one can't afford it amid historic inflation.'

The latest rules impose average miles per gallon limits across manufacturers' entire product lines, so if they make more electric vehicles they will find it easier to meet the targets. Their passenger cars will have to average 65 miles per gallon by 2031, up from 48.7 miles today. Pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles will have to average 45 miles rather than the 35.1 miles today. But heavy-duty pickup trucks and large vans will have to nearly double their fuel efficiency from 18.8 to 35 miles per gallon.

The tough new regulations are designed to save nearly eight billion tons of carbon emissions by the middle of the century and have been welcomed by environmentalists and health campaigners. 'Today's final rule is another important step toward reducing carbon pollution and curbing climate change,' said Harold Wimmer of the American Lung Association. But 25 Red states have filed a lawsuit challenging the new tailpipe rules they fear will destroy jobs. 'The Biden Administration is willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda,' said Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman.

'We just aren't buying it. Demand for EVs continues to fall, and even those who want to buy one can't afford it amid historic inflation.'

'The electric vehicle market is growing, but consumers have enough reservations about the current options and charging infrastructure challenges to limit more significant growth in the short term,' said analyst Jessica Caldwell. Transport secretary Pete Buttigieg defended the new emissions standards. 'Not only will these new standards save Americans money at the pump every time they fill up, they will also decrease harmful pollution and make America less reliant on foreign oil,' he said in a statement.

'These standards will save car owners more than $600 in gasoline costs over the lifetime of their vehicle.'

We can't get shed of the Biden administration fast enough.....Then we really need to get going on gutting the EPA like a fish.

I mean what a fun way to absolutely crush the American economy.

It took a little more than 20 years for the US to transition from horse and carriage to the automobile.

Back in the 1920, a Model T cost about $280...which is about $9K today. What US made electric car costs $9K?

Biden will be dead in 8 years.

 

[1srelluc]

Cars are faster and get better mpg today.

Fact.

They do that by shedding weight....First cars had a full sized spare....Then they had a "donut".....Now you have a low-rent air-pump and a can of fix-a-flat with a window sticker that has the number for roadside assistance.

 

[pknopp]

They do that by shedding weight....First cars had a full sized spare....Then they had a "donut".....Now you have a low-rent air-pump and a can of fix-a-flat with a window sticker that has the number for roadside assistance.

So what? Tires can last 10's of thousands of miles now. They couldn't years ago.